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ttun Shenanigans, Arguments, and Emasculated Cucks (2019 thread)

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Jaxbuck said:
They always focus on the one glaring issue from the last loss, imagine a solution is coming with the new year....
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Except now there are about a dozen glaring issues, and most of the non-glaring issues are leaving the program.

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and viola...they are gonna win!!!
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Viola ... cello ... whatever
 
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My favorite part of this is that Michigan went into the game with hope. They'd found confidence since 'their finest hour' in that second half against Penn St. They won the toss, elected to take the ball, and proceeded to drive right down the field on seven plays to take a 6-0 lead, which was the largest deficit Ohio St had seen all season. It was as aggressive an opening as Harbaugh could have managed. It lasted three minutes. The Buckeyes received the ball, drove right down the field themselves to take a 7-6 lead, and never trailed again. Ohio St's 1 point first quarter lead became 12, then 23, and finally 29.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
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Every time they showed Don Brown screaming on the sidelines I thought "Did he really expect this to go differently?". He's obviously outmatched as a coach, but when this team is focused, there are only a handful of teams that can slow them down. Michigan is not on that list.
 
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Nigel Tufnel said:
It is about to get worse for them as they continue to bring in fewer talented prospects. Honestly, as I look at Jimmer's seasons, he has done remarkably well for a guy with limited talent. But the talent isn't getting better in Ann Arbor, so his ability to compete is going to wane as well. Patterson was never the savior they hoped for, but chances are, he's better than what will take the snaps next year.
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Fully agreed. Looking at their current recruiting class and what is currently on the roster,I don’t see a QB striking Or an offensive skill player for that matter striking fear in OSU. Their defense is sheer mediocrity with Hill being their main stud in the secondary. Osu is bringing in talent that is only rivaled by Bama, Clemson, UGA and Oklahoma, that’s really it. ScUM is bringing in nothing but 3star decent DBs, and OSU is bringing in one of the best WR classes of all time in 2020, to go with Olave,Wilson and Williams.
And I won’t get started on the talent gap on our defense compared to their offense. LJsr and Mattison have to be salivating at the DL talent. And there was a time when people worried about LB talent, and now we have so much that it keeps guys like White off the field at the Bullet. Hafley has a bunch of young guys, and more talent coming for 2020. As long as the coaching staff doesn’t take their feet off of the pedal,this game won’t be close for a while, unless some unforeseen surprise loss a la an Iowa or Purdue and OSU gets too confident
 
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From mgoblue:

You say this every year mGrowOld. You didn’t renew, your friends didn’t renew, your next set of friends didn’t renew. We get it. You’re displeased. I can’t believe you stuck through Carr, who was a worse coach than Jim. He just got lucky he faced a much worse version of OSU. When Carr was at Michigan both Michigan and OSU were regionally very good. Now OSU is a top 4 annual program now who is nationally elite, while Michigan stayed regionally very good. Tressel was OSUs Carr. A very good coach who won one championship. Then OSU brought in an elite coach who took them to the next level and started recruiting nationally and putting OSU up there with the truly elites. Everyone thought Harbaugh would do the same for Michigan, who hasn’t happened. But he’s still the best Michigan coach of the last 20 years.

Re: But he’s still the best Michigan coach of the last 20 years.

The pathetic thing is, the poster is right. Harbaugh probably is better than Carr, Rodriguez, and/or Hoke; however, it's just that the competition wasn't very tough.....:lol:
 
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https://theathletic.com/1421817/201...-nightmare-a-long-winter-that-refuses-to-end/

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Michigan finds itself in the incredibly awkward position of having a head coach who ranks inside the top 10 in terms of overall win percentage for his tenure, but cannot win a championship because his chief rival is a ridiculous 60-6 during that same span.

If you start over, you’re completely guessing on the next person’s ability to solve an Ohio State problem that is now nearly two decades old. There are no sure-fire answers. There aren’t even any sure-fire guesses. You’d also run the risk of finding someone who isn’t capable of matching the win level Harbaugh’s had over the past five years. That shouldn’t be overlooked either. Rich Rodriguez and Brady Hoke combined for 46 wins and three sub-.500 seasons over a seven-year period. Harbaugh’s already at 47 wins through five years with a pair of New Year’s Six bowl appearances.

Same time, Harbaugh appears further away from closing the gap between Michigan and its top competitor than at any other point in his tenure. If he’s not further away, he’s certainly not any closer than he was when he took over. Michigan’s improved since then. Ohio State’s improved, too. And that’s probably the biggest part of the problem. Starting over from scratch doesn’t feel like the answer here. Figuring out new ways to improve yourself year-to-year is the only realistic hope. Harbaugh modernized Michigan’s offense this past offseason. That’s a start. The answer with a defense that’s now given up 1,114 yards and 118 points to the Buckeyes over the last two years is a bit more complicated. But it needs to be thoroughly examined nevertheless.

And even then, it’s a serious stretch because these two programs no longer share the same air.

This isn’t the ’70s. It’s not the ’80s or ’90s or even the early 2000s. Those days are over. This version of Ohio State-Michigan is a nostalgia-fueled annual football game featuring one team that’s pretty good and another that’s tremendous.

For Michigan, the fairy tales have given way to a brutally harsh winter with no end in sight.
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ScriptOhio said:
From mgoblue:

You say this every year mGrowOld. You didn’t renew, your friends didn’t renew, your next set of friends didn’t renew. We get it. You’re displeased. I can’t believe you stuck through Carr, who was a worse coach than Jim. He just got lucky he faced a much worse version of OSU. When Carr was at Michigan both Michigan and OSU were regionally very good. Now OSU is a top 4 annual program now who is nationally elite, while Michigan stayed regionally very good. Tressel was OSUs Carr. A very good coach who won one championship. Then OSU brought in an elite coach who took them to the next level and started recruiting nationally and putting OSU up there with the truly elites. Everyone thought Harbaugh would do the same for Michigan, who hasn’t happened. But he’s still the best Michigan coach of the last 20 years.

Re: But he’s still the best Michigan coach of the last 20 years.

The pathetic thing is, the poster is right. Harbaugh probably is better than Carr, Rodriguez, and/or Hoke: however, it's just that the competition wasn't very tough.....:lol:
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Carr isn't fit to wipe Tressel's ass.
 
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The thing is, their program ceiling is simply lower than Ohio State's. They don't have the in-state talent base to build from and they've now been beaten down enough, and not just by Ohio State, that the magical national appeal that the winged helmet used to have is no longer there. If they want to turn things around, they have to hit their program ceiling AND prevent Ohio State from operating as close to its program ceiling as it has been lately. How can they do that?

1. Get a great athletic director.

2. Devote extensive resources to finding great young innovative coaching talent that can distinguish their brand and maybe pull off an upset or too with lesser talent to get the perception of the program headed in the right direction. Pay whatever it takes to keep them.

3. Recruit the living fuck out of Ohio and Western PA. How different might the 90s have been if Howard and Woodson had been Buckeyes? That they've pretty much given up on it is a losing proposition. Weaken your rivals while building your own program up.

4. Invest heavily in facilities, training, nutrition, and mental culture. Recruit toughness rather than entitlement and develop talent. Find your own Coach Mick.

Fuck, Urban's been on national TV telling them exactly what it takes, but they're probably too arrogant to listen.
 
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