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ttun Shenanigans and Arguments (2018 thread)

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LordJeffBuck said:
Warinner specialized in reaching for talent while at Ohio State. Here's the list of his reaches with their 247 Composite overall rankings:

2013 Timothy Gardiner #652
2014 Kyle Trout #265
2014 Marcelys Jones #400
2014 Brady Taylor #584
2015 Grant Schmidt #469
2015 Kevin Feder #507
2015 Branden Bowen #543
2016 Gavin Cupp #413
2016 Jack Wohlabaugh #437

Gardiner, Trout, Jones, Schmidt, Feder, and Wohlabaugh all transferred out of the program.

Brady Taylor is a fifth-year senior who is in contention to be the starting center this year.

Gavin Cupp is buried on the depth chart. I mean, nowhere to be found.

So far, the only real "hit" among the reaches is Branden Bowen, who held down a starting job before getting injured.

So Warinner batted 1 for 8 (.125) with his reaches, with Brady Taylor still having a chance to come through in the ninth inning of his career. That's what scUM fan has to look forward to.
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They've really taken over Penn State's one in every 4/5 years we'll be really good strategy. Get a bunch of players who all have to stay 4/5 years, because where the hell else are they going, and you have the 2016 team. In another 3-4 years....these unknown 1-for-8ers are going to be 5th year seniors ready to all finally be "really good"......which is still only going to be good enough to win all the games they're supposed to and then one against OSU/MSU/PSU.

That's incredibly pathetic for a team that thinks of itself as a National Title Contender.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
Warinner specialized in reaching for talent while at Ohio State. Here's the list of his reaches with their 247 Composite overall rankings:

2013 Timothy Gardiner #652
2014 Kyle Trout #265
2014 Marcelys Jones #400
2014 Brady Taylor #584
2015 Grant Schmidt #469
2015 Kevin Feder #507
2015 Branden Bowen #543
2016 Gavin Cupp #413
2016 Jack Wohlabaugh #437

Gardiner, Trout, Jones, Schmidt, Feder, and Wohlabaugh all transferred out of the program.

Brady Taylor is a fifth-year senior who is in contention to be the starting center this year.

Gavin Cupp is buried on the depth chart. I mean, nowhere to be found.

So far, the only real "hit" among the reaches is Branden Bowen, who held down a starting job before getting injured.

So Warinner batted 1 for 8 (.125) with his reaches, with Brady Taylor still having a chance to come through in the ninth inning of his career. That's what scUM fan has to look forward to.
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Another way to look at how OL recruiting has changed since Warriner left ...

We currently have three 3 star OL with junior/senior eligibility on the roster.

We have three 5 star OL with freshman eligibility plus a 5 star commit.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
They've really taken over Penn State's one in every 4/5 years we'll be really good strategy. Get a bunch of players who all have to stay 4/5 years, because where the hell else are they going, and you have the 2016 team. In another 3-4 years....these unknown 1-for-8ers are going to be 5th year seniors ready to all finally be "really good"......which is still only going to be good enough to win all the games they're supposed to and then one against OSU/MSU/PSU.

That's incredibly pathetic for a team that thinks of itself as a National Title Contender.
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What do you not understand about the fact that they are recruiting “dawgs”? That attribute alone is worth another star. Then, mix in JimBlo’s masterful coaching and you have filthy dawgs. And that obviously equals multiple Nattys.

Of course, when I say Nattys, I’m talking about Natty Light- multiple 40 ounce bottles of the stuff...
 
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Nigel Tufnel said:
What do you not understand about the fact that they are recruiting “dawgs”? That attribute alone is worth another star. Then, mix in JimBlo’s masterful coaching and you have filthy dawgs. And that obviously equals multiple Nattys.

Of course, when I say Nattys, I’m talking about Natty Light- multiple 40 ounce bottles of the stuff...
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Buckeye86 said:
Here’s head coaches who won a national title in their first three years at a school:

Lloyd Carr, Michigan, 1997 (3rd year)
Bob Stoops, Oklahoma, 2000 (2nd year)
Larry Coker, Miami (FL), 2001 (1st year)
Jim Tressel, Ohio State, 2002 (2nd year)
Pete Carroll, Southern Cal, 2003 (3rd year)
Urban Meyer, Florida, 2006 (2nd year)
Les Miles, LSU, 2007 (3rd year)
Nick Saban, Alabama, 2009 (3rd year)
Gene Chizik, Auburn, 2010 (2nd year)
Urban Meyer, Ohio State, 2014 (3rd year)

Harbaugh in his third year: 8-5 with three straight losses to finish the season- yep, he is right on track.
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I hate to be the one to spoil the party, but I seem to remember a coach who went 16-9-2 in his first three seasons and then won a national championship in year four.

That coach was Woody Hayes.

Now Jim Harbaugh is no Woody Hayes, but there's nothing magical about the three-year window. During the same time frame you cited, Jimbo Fisher won a national title in his 4th year at Florida State; Phil Fulmer in his 7th year at Tennessee; Mack Brown in his 8th year at Texas; and Dabo Swinney in his 9th year at Clemson. It took Bobby Bowden 18 years to win a championship at Florida State and Joe Paterno 17 years to win one at Penn State.

With that being said ... Fuck Michigan!
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
I hate to be the one to spoil the party, but I seem to remember a coach who went 16-9-2 in his first three seasons and then won a national championship in year four.

That coach was Woody Hayes.

Now Jim Harbaugh is no Woody Hayes, but there's nothing magical about the three-year window. During the same time frame you cited, Jimbo Fisher won a national title in his 4th year at Florida State; Phil Fulmer in his 7th year at Tennessee; Mack Brown in his 8th year at Texas; and Dabo Swinney in his 9th year at Clemson. It took Bobby Bowden 18 years to win a championship at Florida State and Joe Paterno 17 years to win one at Penn State.

With that being said ... Fuck Michigan!
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I think there is something to the 3 year window. New coaches at big name schools usually carry a lot of recruiting momentum and excitement with them which typically leads to a monster recruiting class in their 2nd year. If they don't live up to those expectations in those first few years, their credibility takes a hit and so does recruiting. It gets harder to land those top 5 classes after that when you're going up against all time greats like Saban and Meyer, plus the new flavors of the month that arrive at other big name schools. Hayes, Paterno, Osborne, Bowden, and even Fulmer were from very different eras when there was more patience. Like you pointed out with Swinney, it's not impossible to win one later on, but the last 2 decades show a pretty obvious trend of coaches winning one within their first 3 years.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
I hate to be the one to spoil the party, but I seem to remember a coach who went 16-9-2 in his first three seasons and then won a national championship in year four.

That coach was Woody Hayes.

Now Jim Harbaugh is no Woody Hayes, but there's nothing magical about the three-year window. During the same time frame you cited, Jimbo Fisher won a national title in his 4th year at Florida State; Phil Fulmer in his 7th year at Tennessee; Mack Brown in his 8th year at Texas; and Dabo Swinney in his 9th year at Clemson. It took Bobby Bowden 18 years to win a championship at Florida State and Joe Paterno 17 years to win one at Penn State.

With that being said ... Fuck Michigan!
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Jaxbuck said:
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https://mgoblog.com/diaries/prognosticating-2018-post-spring-edition

The entire article is pure comedy, but I absolutely had to highlight this "gem" of a paragraph. Especially the bold :slappy::slappy::slappy:
This year we bring in Shea Patterson, who has been described as “Tate Forcier but goes to class.” That seems fairly accurate. Another way to describe him, though, would be “John O’Korn but better.” His skillset is a lot like O’Korn’s, but Patterson is a better runner, has a stronger arm and is a more accurate passer. To put it in perspective, if he starts for us last year, but everything else stays the same, we probably beat both MSU and OSU.
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I honestly don't know how either of those descriptions can be seen as positive. An overrated kid who quickly flamed out, AND didn't go to class, but because Shea goes to class he's that much better:roll2:. Or comparing him to one of the worst QBs in scum history. That'd be like OSU having a QB and saying our starter is like Joe Bauserman but better, or he reminds us of Antonio Henton without the hookers :lol:
 
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