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ttun Shenanigans and Arguments (2016 official thread)

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If Harbaugh can manage to get a year like Ruddock had in '15 out of Speight/O'Korn/Suga Shane then I'm wrong. I'm willing to take that bet because it doesn't seem like anyone up north or any pre season prognostications have even considered the fact the QB play might not be exactly what it was last year. When you look at what Harbaugh had to work with in Ruddock (as in what Ruddock had proven on the field prior to'15) vs these ass clowns he has to work with in '16 it gets pretty hard to believe there isn't even a little bit of a concern or someone asking the question of "what if the QB's suck?"
O'Korn had approximately 99.7% of the Michigan fan votes for who would start before August. It was still about 75% in mid August despite O'Korn never outperforming him all off season, even in one off situations.

Jake was a safe, limited qb. Harbaugh did a phenomenal job with him but he was not bad at all. Iowa just had someone better.

Speight was brutal last year and that was on top of pretty limited upside. O'Korn was everyone's pick because of his high upside and hopes that a great qb coach like harbaugh could avoid the low floor that caused him to transfer from Houston.

I could see a fairly decent defense becoming even stronger with a better coordinator. I do not see any reason to believe that the poor running game (blocking and rushing ) will suddenly be good. The passing game was quite solid to good later in the year yet the rushing attack remained woeful.

I agree about the veterans largely being who they are. Most of them don't improve. A very small number go from bad to competent (Curtis Grant). Almost none go from bad to good/great.

When there is a big moment in the Michigan backfield, a sack, a tackle for loss, a hurry up, a fumble, there is usually one player in my photos running backwards, if not two. Kyle Kalis is one of those guys visible in the photo about 95% of the time.
 
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Jake was a safe, limited qb. Harbaugh did a phenomenal job with him but he was not bad at all. Iowa just had someone better.

Exactly.

This year they are talking National Championship with a first year starting QB beginning from a MUCH lower floor and nothing else on offense that can take the pressure off of him.

I have been incredulous since the hype started in the winter. Seeing them go with Speight absolutely confirms it for me. He may end up being better than I am thinking but they aren't even considering that he might be something far less than Ruddock gave them last year. It doesn't even come up.

They weren't good enough to beat the good teams they played last year. They were significantly out manned against the one elite team they played. Now they essentially just take the same team and swap out Ruddocks production for whatever Speight may bring to the table and its playoffs or bust.

DFBIA
 
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They weren't good enough to beat the good teams they played last year. They were significantly out manned against the one elite team they played. Now they essentially just take the same team and swap out Ruddocks production for whatever Speight may bring to the table and its playoffs or bust.

DFBIA

I am perfectly happy with that. Since I don't think they have a snowball's chance in hell of making the playoffs, I am content to see their program go completely bust (including plowing under the field and salting the ground).
 
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Lord, I have been a disappointment, I know. So, I understand if you do not grant this wish but I really, really would like TSUN to enter The Game undefeated and to lose to an undefeated Ohio State by 30 or more points. I promise that I'll eat more spinach and all that.

The idea has its merits, but I'm not sure I can fully endorse letting tdfbun be happy for that long. It might give them too much hope.
 
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Lord, I have been a disappointment, I know. So, I understand if you do not grant this wish but I really, really would like TSUN to enter The Game undefeated and to lose to an undefeated Ohio State by 30 or more points. I promise that I'll eat more spinach and all that.
If Ohio State drops an early game, beating the hell out of a top 5 Michigan team would be a nice way to stamp a ticket to the playoffs.
 
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