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ttun Shenanigans and Arguments (2016 official thread)

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http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post...tball-roundtable-overrated-playoff-contenders

College football roundtable: Overrated playoff contenders

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Big Ten: Michigan

There’s no question Jim Harbaugh has revitalized his alma mater and shaken up the national landscape, and the hype is certainly building for his second season at Michigan. But there is still uncertainty lingering at the most important position on the field, even with Wilton Speight taking the lead in the quarterback derby. And the program’s biggest rivals have home-field advantage when they play the Wolverines: If they can manage to exact revenge on Michigan State in late October, there’s still a huge test looming a month later at Ohio State in a series hasn’t been kind to the Wolverines lately. The early lines already have the Buckeyes favored in The Game, thanks in part to Urban Meyer’s head start in stockpiling talent, so it seems premature to tab Michigan for one of those four coveted playoff spots. -- Austin Ward

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http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post...tball-roundtable-overrated-playoff-contenders

College football roundtable: Overrated playoff contenders

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Big Ten: Michigan

There’s no question Jim Harbaugh has revitalized his alma mater and shaken up the national landscape, and the hype is certainly building for his second season at Michigan. But there is still uncertainty lingering at the most important position on the field, even with Wilton Speight taking the lead in the quarterback derby. And the program’s biggest rivals have home-field advantage when they play the Wolverines: If they can manage to exact revenge on Michigan State in late October, there’s still a huge test looming a month later at Ohio State in a series hasn’t been kind to the Wolverines lately. The early lines already have the Buckeyes favored in The Game, thanks in part to Urban Meyer’s head start in stockpiling talent, so it seems premature to tab Michigan for one of those four coveted playoff spots. -- Austin Ward

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Finally...some reason. It seems like they're the flavor of the preseason, with what seems to be a consensus top 5 ranking. I, for the life of me, cannot figure out why most are so high on them.
 
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Finally...some reason. It seems like they're the flavor of the preseason, with what seems to be a consensus top 5 ranking. I, for the life of me, cannot figure out why most are so high on them.

Before they fell off the face of the earth in 2007 scUM was consistently, and I mean decades back, the most overrated pre season team (and recruiting classes).

There used to be a link to a site that tracked pre season and final poll rankings. By that delta scUM was far and away the worst performer going back well into the 70's iirc.

maybe someone could find it again but I think it fell out of use due to their pulling a Notre Dame since '08 or so

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here is one link but this isn't the one I remember: http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/a...rrated-underrated-college-football-teams-1989

EDIT II: Stassen site
http://preseason.stassen.com/over-under/all-teams.html
 
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If you drill down into the details on the Stassen site you see a +14 the first year of the fat garbage man, same as the +14 the first year of RainMan.

Year 2 Hoke started preseason consensus #8, ended 24th.

We shall see how the kaki'd autistic does.

BTW scUM is 7th worst in CFB on that list with a massive -74 1/2 and that is AFTER a +14 last year.

EDIT: Here is the Stassen site with only the frequently ranked teams sorted most underrated to most overrated
http://preseason.stassen.com/over-under/teams.html
 
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I like how that writer mentions Speight taking the lead as though it's a good thing.

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Harbaugh can coach up QBs, and Rudock certainly played above his ability last year, but he arrived as a smart, reliable qb. Limited? Sure. game manager? Definitely. That said, he was viewed as a safe, steady qb to solidify a terrible qb depth chart and allow michigan to win with defense and enough offense. Now he had some early stinkers but overall there was plenty of reason for preseason optimism about adequate to decent qb play.

Speight has been pretty brutal at times (in the limited viewings we've had) and has none of the upside of OKorn or Morris. I can't imagine why we are betting on that position being reliable. Maybe when speight is benched or beaten out by okorn?

There still is no running game, other than spring game rumbles against no defenders or qb scrambles when no one is looking.
 
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Harbaugh can coach up QBs, and Rudock certainly played above his ability last year, but he arrived as a smart, reliable qb. Limited? Sure. game manager? Definitely. That said, he was viewed as a safe, steady qb to solidify a terrible qb depth chart and allow michigan to win with defense and enough offense. Now he had some early stinkers but overall there was plenty of reason for preseason optimism about adequate to decent qb play.

Speight has been pretty brutal at times (in the limited viewings we've had) and has none of the upside of OKorn or Morris. I can't imagine why we are betting on that position being reliable. Maybe when speight is benched or beaten out by okorn?

There still is no running game, other than spring game rumbles against no defenders or qb scrambles when no one is looking.
Last time I checked Kyle Kalis is still one of their five best offensive linemen as well.
 
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