Buckeye513
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Mr_Burns
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I meant to jump into this thread a long time ago. This is the first show since Breaking Bad where I can legitimately say I have spent the entire week looking forward to the next episode. It's also why my DirecTv bill is $18/mo. heavier.
Without rehashing what's already been discussed in the thread:
[Spoilers for those who haven't watched the first 7 episodes]
-I'll be interested to see if the final episode ties Marty's daughter into all of this. If not, the doll scene/sexual drawings/crown flying into the tree/double-team, etc. seem like a bit of misdirection on the writer's part. Not that I care either way, just an observation that it's odd to make a point of all of those things if it doesn't amount to anything.
-Seeing Marty's transformation from the guy who had hot girls throwing themselves at him from 1995-2002 into the guy sitting alone browsing match.com in 2012 was painfully depressing and satisfying at the same time.
-The lawn mower guy obviously isn't the ringleader (the green-eared spaghetti monster, where it all starts and ends, as Rust says in ep. 7), although he's the man with the scars they have been so focused on. Do they reach the top of the chain in the last episode, or is that something season 2 addresses with a different cast? Or, does it end this season without resolution, further driving home Rust's point about life being a continuous flat circle, and the killing continues after all of their efforts?
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The acting & writing have been phenomenal, and I'd say that the music selections have been top notch, as well. This one has been in my head since the end of the last episode:
Without rehashing what's already been discussed in the thread:
[Spoilers for those who haven't watched the first 7 episodes]
-I'll be interested to see if the final episode ties Marty's daughter into all of this. If not, the doll scene/sexual drawings/crown flying into the tree/double-team, etc. seem like a bit of misdirection on the writer's part. Not that I care either way, just an observation that it's odd to make a point of all of those things if it doesn't amount to anything.
-Seeing Marty's transformation from the guy who had hot girls throwing themselves at him from 1995-2002 into the guy sitting alone browsing match.com in 2012 was painfully depressing and satisfying at the same time.
-The lawn mower guy obviously isn't the ringleader (the green-eared spaghetti monster, where it all starts and ends, as Rust says in ep. 7), although he's the man with the scars they have been so focused on. Do they reach the top of the chain in the last episode, or is that something season 2 addresses with a different cast? Or, does it end this season without resolution, further driving home Rust's point about life being a continuous flat circle, and the killing continues after all of their efforts?
[/Spoilers]
The acting & writing have been phenomenal, and I'd say that the music selections have been top notch, as well. This one has been in my head since the end of the last episode:
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Buckeye513
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If not him and with Billy Lee Tuttle dead I'm not sure who it would be. He's a part of the Tuttle bloodline and I don't think they'll introduce a character like that in the finale.
Edit for those who might not have been clear on the family thing:
You have Sam Tuttle (not seen). His son is Billy Lee Tuttle (reverend). Billy Lee's cousin is Eddie Tuttle (governor in '95, senator in '12, not seen).
Sam Tuttle's bastard son is Ted Childress (not seen), who was mentioned in E1 and E7 as the sheriff who covered up the Marie Fontenot case. His son is Errol Childress (lawnmower man). There was another Childress in E5, he was one of the cops escorting the pharmacy robber who killed himself in '02. Bart Ledoux (unseen), Reggie and Dewall's father, may have been a Tuttle bastard as well.
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OHSportsFan
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Just watched all 7 episodes in the last 3-4 days.
Woo buddy. Awesome.
Woo buddy. Awesome.
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sepia5
JoePa apologists = Pendejo
This eight-part series was tremendous. Anyone have any info on what is in the works for season 2? I know the idea is to turn the concept into an anthology, with a different cast and plot for each season, but beyond that it all seems like a mystery. It will be hard to top season 1!
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sepia5
JoePa apologists = Pendejo
By the way, everyone is raving about how great McConaughey and Woody Harrelson were in this series, and rightfully so. But I thought
Glenn Fleshler as Errol Childress was brilliant, from the way he obsessively stared down at a young boy from a ladder while painting on a school ground, to the way he suddenly mimicked a British accent and cracked erudite jokes among stacks of books, as if to say to the viewer, "I am not the simple handyman I'd led you to believe I was." He played one of the most disturbing villains I've ever encountered, and did so flawlessly.
Glenn Fleshler as Errol Childress was brilliant, from the way he obsessively stared down at a young boy from a ladder while painting on a school ground, to the way he suddenly mimicked a British accent and cracked erudite jokes among stacks of books, as if to say to the viewer, "I am not the simple handyman I'd led you to believe I was." He played one of the most disturbing villains I've ever encountered, and did so flawlessly.
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Buckeye513
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Errol and Carcosa were creepy as shit. I also liked how they kept with the 'time is a flat circle' theme. In '95, Rust and Marty get Ledoux and they're heroes, but there are more pieces out there. In '12, Rust and Marty get Errol and they're heroes, but there are more pieces out there. Again, and again, and again, forever.
Otherwise I thought it was weak. The green ears -> painted house thing came out of nowhere. It was convenient that the old lady remembered a guy that painted her house 17 years ago and her husband itemized his deductions. They rushed it and it came off as lazy writing. I didn't understand why Rust would yell back to Marty to let him know where he is and then just keep going alone through that psycho nest of despair. The Dracie angle ended up being pretty pointless.
And the "finding Jesus" moment for Rust at the end...come the fuck on.
Otherwise I thought it was weak. The green ears -> painted house thing came out of nowhere. It was convenient that the old lady remembered a guy that painted her house 17 years ago and her husband itemized his deductions. They rushed it and it came off as lazy writing. I didn't understand why Rust would yell back to Marty to let him know where he is and then just keep going alone through that psycho nest of despair. The Dracie angle ended up being pretty pointless.
And the "finding Jesus" moment for Rust at the end...come the fuck on.
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OH10
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Hated the finale for several reasons... some already stated.
The contrived nature in which Marty and Rust track down Errol based on some lame realization Marty has 17 years too late. Rust was obsessing over the case for 10 years before he brought Marty back in. The whole series portrays him as a meticulous instinctive detective and he missed that? Come the fuck on!
And what was all the bullshit about Marty's daughter? All of that was a red herring? I feel tricked. What was the point of having her arrange the dolls in the fashion she did?
And then what about the rest of them? The video was found at Rev. Tuttle's house. There are several men in the video. Errol seemed isolated with that crazy half-sister of his. Didn't seem like anybody else was in on it with him. And yet... the video.
That's it? Weak sauce.
The contrived nature in which Marty and Rust track down Errol based on some lame realization Marty has 17 years too late. Rust was obsessing over the case for 10 years before he brought Marty back in. The whole series portrays him as a meticulous instinctive detective and he missed that? Come the fuck on!
And what was all the bullshit about Marty's daughter? All of that was a red herring? I feel tricked. What was the point of having her arrange the dolls in the fashion she did?
And then what about the rest of them? The video was found at Rev. Tuttle's house. There are several men in the video. Errol seemed isolated with that crazy half-sister of his. Didn't seem like anybody else was in on it with him. And yet... the video.
That's it? Weak sauce.
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bearonu
60% of the time, it works every time.
I, too, was a little disappointed that nothing played out with Marty's daughter in regards to the dolls, drawings, etc.
As far as the other people in the video, Rust mentions in the hospital at the end that they didn't get them all. It could be part of the "life is a flat circle" idea. They didn't get everybody 17 years ago, they didn't get everybody in 2012 either.
As far as the other people in the video, Rust mentions in the hospital at the end that they didn't get them all. It could be part of the "life is a flat circle" idea. They didn't get everybody 17 years ago, they didn't get everybody in 2012 either.
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BuckeyeTillIDie
The North Remembers
http://www.theonion.com/articles/true-detective-fan-develops-elaborate-theory-he-wi,35470/
Onion article from last week was spot-on, it seems.
Onion article from last week was spot-on, it seems.
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tAFKaT
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I hope the future seasons will be cases that focus on the cult. Using different detectives focusing on other aspects of the cult. Unaware of the other detectives work. Maybe unresolved story lines in this season will be launching pads for other stories. It's probably just hopeful thinking though.
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