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Tressel & The Voting Conspiracy - Part II

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Crashcup;679775; said:
Back to point. I could not believe that Ivan Maisel has said that Ohio was the ONLY state that believes JT was right. I don't live in Ohio but my god man what was he supoosed to do?
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JT has been caught in a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' deal. He votes, people will talk, he doesn't vote, people will talk. Their venting because the teams they picked (sports press) and root for (fans) lost and the're mad. To me JT gave them a slap in the face that they all deserved!:osu:
 
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His vote would have made precisely 6.3492063492063492063492063492063 e-4 of a difference in the Coaches poll - which is another way of saying no bloody difference at all ntd.

But from the hue and cry we see from the TSUN fans as a result of the non-vote apparently they can devote reams of electronic paper to 0.00063492063492063492063492063492063 of a point.

Worth repeating --
What the TSUN are crying in their beer about is exactly 0.00063492063492063492063492063492063 of a BCS differential - in the coaches poll alone.
 
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again, again, again...

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/9800283
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Jim Tressel seemed to talk in circles at Monday's presser leading up to the Michigan game. He was asked if he thought a team should have to win its conference to play in the BCS title game.
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[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]"Yeah," he said.[/FONT]
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Why?[/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]"The thing that we say, if you want a chance to play for the national championship, you'd better make the assumption that you win every game, and be your champion," Tressel said.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]if tressel had voted based on what he was on record stating before The Game, the margin between florida at second and michigan at third would have been greater. tressel likely understood that following through on his statement would have created turmoil. apparently, it was a no win-no win-no win situation. had he voted scum second, he was merely a loyalist and afraid of the sec. had he voted florida second, he was being disloyal and afraid of playing a team that lost by only three points. had he not voted at all, well... this is what happens. it seems that there are three sides to this coin.[/FONT]
 
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I have it on good authority that Tressel paid Fish from Arkansas to fumble that punt in the endzone.That just shows how dirty he is, paying a guy named 'Fish'.

Plus, he had no right to coach his team to a victory over Michigan - I thought that one was 'real slick.'
 
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Tressel's vote was of no confidence



Wednesday, December 06, 2006 Bill Livingston

Plain Dealer Columnist
When it came time to stand up, Jim Tressel sat down.
The Ohio State coach abstained in the final USA Today college football poll. Each coach's vote is revealed in the final poll, so Tressel, wary of giving either Michigan or Florida bulletin-board material when it came to voting which was second and third, didn't vote at all.
It was a slick move. "Slick," in fact, is the term Michigan coach Lloyd Carr used for Tressel. Tressel's Teflon-coated image comes in handy in creating a public perception that is at variance with some aspects of his job performance.
Before the Texas game, Tressel said he voted the Longhorns No. 1. USA Today reserves the right to correct false reports, so it revealed Tressel's vote was really for OSU. An underling took the blame for what was termed a "miscommunication" in casting the ballot.
I agreed with Tressel's abstention until considering the larger picture. In the final poll, Tressel did right by OSU, wrong by the Big Ten, and left considerations about the good of the game to others.
Critics note he influenced the BCS standings by voting all season long, helping to position the contenders. When the choice got tough and votes would be made public - Zounds! - he saw a conflict of interest.
Critics say he abrogated a responsibility he accepted at the season's beginning. "Be a man! Vote, and then stand by it. If not for Michigan, then for your conference," an e-mailer said.
Interpretations of the effect of Tressel's non-vote differ. He is on record as saying a team should have to win its conference to be in the championship game. Some view not voting as removing a second-place vote for Florida from the tally. This, after OSU's 42-39 victory over Michigan, is the "Michigan had its shot" school of thinking.
But Michigan fans say for Tressel not to have "taken his shot" was a way of letting the "no rematch" sentiment gain momentum. CBS, which televises games of Florida and other Southeastern Conference teams, shilled as shrilly for Florida as Lou Holtz does for Notre Dame on ESPN's "College Football Final."
Tressel is a great game-day coach. He is also very conscious of his image. He avoided the hucksterism with which other coaches have been charged in the BCS popularity contest. Texas' Mack Brown lobbied his team into the Rose Bowl two years ago at Cal's expense. Florida's Urban Meyer angled to get into the BCS title game, although he is a long-time critic of the system. So "We come first" is the mantra of most coaches.
But Tressel wants to be seen as a man who stands for more than that.
Adoring Buckeye fans see no wrong in him. Yet he has a history of trimming at Ohio State. Most notoriously, his one-game suspension in 2003 of Robert Reynolds for choking Wisconsin quarterback Jim Sorgi at the bottom of a tackling pile was the worst example ever, including anything Florida State's lax Bobby Bowden ever did, of excusing the inexcusable.
When the chance last weekend came to teach lessons about working within the system and doing disagreeable chores, Tressel did nothing. The Buckeyes beat Michigan on the field. They also beat them when their coach sat on a stool in his corner and declined to answer the final bell.
 
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StadiumDorm;679859; said:
I have it on good authority that Tressel paid Fish from Arkansas to fumble that punt in the endzone.That just shows how dirty he is, paying a guy named 'Fish'.

Plus, he had no right to coach his team to a victory over Michigan - I thought that one was 'real slick.'
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:lol:

What was real slick was playing Troy Smith at QB. Totally unfair.
And BTW, who let this Beanie Wells kid in the game? Now that Manningham is a sophmore, Freshmen should be banned from The Game!
 
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osugrad21;680045; said:
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Tressel's vote was of no confidence

Wednesday, December 06, 2006 Bill Livingston

Plain Dealer Columnist
When it came time to stand up, Jim Tressel sat down.
The Ohio State coach abstained in the final USA Today college football poll. Each coach's vote is revealed in the final poll, so Tressel, wary of giving either Michigan or Florida bulletin-board material when it came to voting which was second and third, didn't vote at all.
It was a slick move. "Slick," in fact, is the term Michigan coach Lloyd Carr used for Tressel. Tressel's Teflon-coated image comes in handy in creating a public perception that is at variance with some aspects of his job performance.
Before the Texas game, Tressel said he voted the Longhorns No. 1. USA Today reserves the right to correct false reports, so it revealed Tressel's vote was really for OSU. An underling took the blame for what was termed a "miscommunication" in casting the ballot.
I agreed with Tressel's abstention until considering the larger picture. In the final poll, Tressel did right by OSU, wrong by the Big Ten, and left considerations about the good of the game to others.
Critics note he influenced the BCS standings by voting all season long, helping to position the contenders. When the choice got tough and votes would be made public - Zounds! - he saw a conflict of interest.
Critics say he abrogated a responsibility he accepted at the season's beginning. "Be a man! Vote, and then stand by it. If not for Michigan, then for your conference," an e-mailer said.
Interpretations of the effect of Tressel's non-vote differ. He is on record as saying a team should have to win its conference to be in the championship game. Some view not voting as removing a second-place vote for Florida from the tally. This, after OSU's 42-39 victory over Michigan, is the "Michigan had its shot" school of thinking.
But Michigan fans say for Tressel not to have "taken his shot" was a way of letting the "no rematch" sentiment gain momentum. CBS, which televises games of Florida and other Southeastern Conference teams, shilled as shrilly for Florida as Lou Holtz does for Notre Dame on ESPN's "College Football Final."
Tressel is a great game-day coach. He is also very conscious of his image. He avoided the hucksterism with which other coaches have been charged in the BCS popularity contest. Texas' Mack Brown lobbied his team into the Rose Bowl two years ago at Cal's expense. Florida's Urban Meyer angled to get into the BCS title game, although he is a long-time critic of the system. So "We come first" is the mantra of most coaches.
But Tressel wants to be seen as a man who stands for more than that.
Adoring Buckeye fans see no wrong in him. Yet he has a history of trimming at Ohio State. Most notoriously, his one-game suspension in 2003 of Robert Reynolds for choking Wisconsin quarterback Jim Sorgi at the bottom of a tackling pile was the worst example ever, including anything Florida State's lax Bobby Bowden ever did, of excusing the inexcusable.
When the chance last weekend came to teach lessons about working within the system and doing disagreeable chores, Tressel did nothing. The Buckeyes beat Michigan on the field. They also beat them when their coach sat on a stool in his corner and declined to answer the final bell.
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As if leaving Ohio State to take over the Cleveland Browns weren't degrading enough, imagine having to deal with Bill Livingston everyday?

I hope Tress realizes that he can always have his old job back in Columbus once the city of Cleveland runs him out of town after two years. :wink2:
 
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scUM fans probably won't let this controversy die until after they watch their team go out to Pasadena and lay an egg against USC.

It would be so very fitting! Usually, I root for all Big Ten teams in the Bowls but......

NOT THIS YEAR!!!!!!!

Attention fans of TSUN, you can all just suck it!

Get your asses to the back of the line and shut the fuck up already!

Go Buckeyes!!!!
 
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