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tOSU's BCS Bowl possibilities

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The SEC has never sent the loser of the SEC Championship game to a BCS bowl. So what happens if Auburn beats Alabama, Florida curb stomps Alabama in the SEC Championship game, and Oregon St., PSU, and USC all win out?
 
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IronBuckI;1328418; said:
The SEC has never sent the loser of the SEC Championship game to a BCS bowl. So what happens if Auburn beats Alabama, Florida curb stomps Alabama in the SEC Championship game, and Oregon St., PSU, and USC all win out?
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The Sugar would get one of the first 2 choices, assuming Florida is in the Title game, and I believe they would take either Georgia or Alabama because of the tie-in with the SEC.

Now if Florida has lost to Florida State in your scenario, and goes to the Sugar Bowl instead of the Title game, then things get messy because the title game is either two Big 12 teams, or a Big 12 team (even if Missouri wins their CCG) against USC or Penn State. That's all very unlikey, but I don't think it changes much - the 4 other bids would probably still go to the SEC, Big 12, Utah/Boise and tOSU if another at-large is available.

If the BCS Title game is a Big 12 team that didn't win their CCG (a real possibility), or a USC team that lost their conference tiebreaker to Oregon State, there could be only 1 or 2 non-automatic bids available.

To take your scenario (no SEC in the Title game), plus a Mizzou Big 12 CCG winner into the BCS Bowl selection process:

Title game: Texas/Oklahoma vs. USC
Rose: Oregon State (automatic) vs Penn State (automatic)
Sugar: Florida(automatic placement)
Fiesta: Mizzou(automatic placement, which could shut out a #3 Tex/Okla)
Orange: ACC winner(automatic placement)

Assuming either Utah or Boise State is in the top 12, the higher rated one has an automatic bid, as does the Big East winner:

Fiesta (first choice among: Utah/Boise, Big East winner, tOSU/Ga/Bama)
Sugar: second choice, but if tOSU, Ga, or Bama was selected, the other teams get shut out.
Orange: either Utah/Boise or Big East winner

If Penn State would miraculously make the Title Game, the Rose would almost certainly select a 10-2 tOSU as the replacement team.

If the Title game is somehow USC and an SEC team, the Sugar Bowl would want to take Bama/Florida/Georgia as the replacement team, unless Florida and Georgia both have 3 losses. In that case, the Rose Bowl would probably select Texas or Oklahoma as the replacement for USC, since there would probably be no other Pac 10 team available, and they wouldn't want a Penn State-tOSU rematch.

If two Big 12 teams make the Title game, and Penn State beats MSU:

Title: Big 12 vs. Big 12
Rose: Penn State (automatic) vs USC/Oregon State (automatic)
Sugar: Bama/Fla winner (automatic)
Orange: ACC automatic
Fiesta: Replacement pick: (guessing preferences) 1-loss USC, 1-loss Bama, 2-loss Florida,, 2-loss tOSU
Fiesta: Next pick: 1-loss Bama, 2-loss Florida, 2-loss tOSU
Sugar: Boise/Utah or Big East winner
Orange: whichever one the Sugar didn't pick
 
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BB73;1328403; said:
Nothing changed yesterday, except eliminating the possibility of a 3-way tie in the Big Ten if PSU had lost to Indiana. If the Big Ten has a tie it will be only two teams, and the tiebreaker will be the head-to-head result.

If the Rose Bowl is Penn State-Oregon State, an 11-1 USC would get an at-large bid, and tOSU would go to the Capital One Bowl and probably play Georgia.
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That really wouldn't be a bad draw at all: Ohio State vs. the flea bitten, dog breath, mangy, worm infested, leg humping, butt sniffing team from Athens GA. :biggrin:

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strohs;1328502; said:
I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure that the rules state a team must win their conference before they can play in the NC game.
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You are incorrect. Feel free to read this before making such statements that will confuse readers unnecessarily.

www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/eligibility

There's a lot of information there, and it can be confusing. I created this thread to list the facts and the possibilities for tOSU's BCS Bowl bids. There's a lot of incorrect information out there. Last week, I sent e-mails to both Stewart Mandel and Pete Fiutak because they each had an error in their Bowl Selection articles, and I saw an incorect statement made on a FoxSports video segment that was created solely to talk about the BCS Bowls.
 
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strohs;1328502; said:
I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure that the rules state a team must win their conference before they can play in the NC game.
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I don't think that's true unless there was a very recent rule change. There was a real possibility of a OSU/Michigan rematch back in 06. Plus Oklahoma got to the title game the year they lost to LSU after losing to K-State in the Big 12 title game.
 
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FWBuckeye;1328509; said:
I don't think that's true unless there was a very recent rule change. There was a real possibility of a OSU/Michigan rematch back in 06. Plus Oklahoma got to the title game the year they lost to LSU after losing to K-State in the Big 12 title game.
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It must have been talked about only, because of the reasons you state here
 
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BB73;1328441; said:
To take your scenario (no SEC in the Title game), plus a Mizzou Big 12 CCG winner into the BCS Bowl selection process:
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Actually, my scenario is that the SEC CCG loser doesn't make a BCS Bowl. I assumed that Florida would be in the NCG, but since I didn't type that or even imply it, I guess I can't expect people to read my mind. :biggrin:
 
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IronBuckI;1328542; said:
Actually, my scenario is that the SEC CCG loser doesn't make a BCS Bowl. I assumed that Florida would be in the NCG, but since I didn't type that or even imply it, I guess I can't expect people to read my mind. :biggrin:
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I did respond to that in my first sentence, with the Sugar taking the second SEC team, and if that's true it doesn't really impact tOSU's BCS possibilities. Then I kind of wandered into the rest of the oddball scenarios that are possible with some upsets.

That, or I just misunderestimated you. :wink2:
 
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ok so all this scenerio stuff is sorta confusing. Just tell me this. Are the odds of OSU making a BCS bowl great? I would think so. A top 10 big time school who hasn't been to a BCS bowl (only been to the NCG) since 2005.
 
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