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tOSU Transfer Portal Recruiting Discussion

I doubt the NCAA would investigate unless a team felt at a disadvantage. But it is interesting.


Is it illegal to maintain relationships with other staffs? I don’t think it is. He just said they supported him emotionally as he struggled at Bama. The NCAA would really be throwing poop at the wall and trying too hard to flex if they made something out of that. It’s not like he was gonna go anywhere else anyway so everything cancels itself out IMO
 
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Is it illegal to maintain relationships with other staffs? I don’t think it is. He just said they supported him emotionally as he struggled at Bama. The NCAA would really be throwing poop at the wall and trying too hard to flex if they made something out of that. It’s not like he was gonna go anywhere else anyway so everything cancels itself out IMO

I’m not saying he did anything wrong, I said it’s interesting. I’m not exactly sure the definition of what constitutes tampering. It’s also why I said they wouldn’t do anything unless another team logged a complaint. We’re saying the same thing lol
 
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OHIO STATE IS FACING SOME CRITICISM FOR DOING TOO WELL IN THE OFFSEASON. SHOULD IT?​

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People have a poor perspective on what, exactly, constitutes "a lot of money."

What I mean by this is that for most of us, after a certain dollar amount money becomes essentially fictional. In my brain there is no functional difference between a few million dollars and five hundred billion dollars, because I'm never going to have either amount and wouldn't know what to do with it even if I had it (with that said, if anyone out there would like to give me five hundred billion dollars, I would love to try and figure this thing out).

One cool example that illustrates the concept is this site from 2021, showing visually the difference between median household income, a million dollars, a billion dollars, and the ultra-wealthy. If you're an average person looking at this chart, anything above a million bucks might seem wildly inappropriate.

But what if you're a state university with a gigantic donor base? What if you're a state university with a gigantic donor base who's athletic department just brought in $280 million dollars in revenue in the last fiscal year? What if you're in charge of maintaining the relevancy of a particular sport, which supports the viability of dozens of others (because damn, men's basketball ain't pulling their weight these days)? What if you just like winning football games while operating within the current set of rules?

I'll tell you what you do: you find the freaking cash to bring in the players to win the games to maintain the viability of one of the largest athletic departments in the United States.

Reactions to Ohio State's transfer portal haul are funny to me, in large part because I think it reveals a lot about the culture of college football and how fans of it think. There's a decent amount cognitive dissonance required to retroactively cheer cheatin'-ass programs like the Miami Hurricanes of the 1980's or the Nebraska Cornhuskers of the 1990's while simultaneously bemoaning players getting paid above board in 2024.

But that's college football! It's not about what you do, but how cool you look doing it. Paying players via a complicated Ponzi scheme involving speedboats and Hummel figurines is cooler than a kid signing a contract with an NIL collective after a lawyer looks it over for an hour.

Anyway, the takes reacting to the Buckeyes using a lot of NIL money to retain most of their current roster and bring in several of the best players in the transfer portal have settled somewhere between "this is the worst thing to ever happen to college football" and "well, they'd better win a national championship."

Let's address the latter first. Here's a quote from the shambling husk of Deadspin:

When Bobby Axelrod said, “Hate is nature’s most perfect energy source. It’s endlessly renewable,” the Buckeyes took that to heart as they’ve collected players and coaches in the offseason like Thanos did with the Infinity Stones in 2018/2019. [...]
The Buckeyes have proven that they’re in it to win it, as the playoffs expand to 12 teams next season. But, if Ohio State still can’t beat Michigan or their season doesn’t end with a parade, they’ll be using all that money to hire a new head coach.

Ah, a Marvel movie reference. That's almost as bad as naming your long-running rival hate column after a single joke from a sitcom that went off the air over a decade ago.
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Everyone is trying to claw their way to the mountaintop. There's no cute, bespoke way to do it in a sports entertainment industry worth tens of billions of dollars. Ohio State and its supporters have the money they need to try and accomplish their goals, so they're going to spend it. It's as simple as that.

Major college athletics is and always has been a cutthroat business. If getting other programs getting angry at Ohio State for finally giving up the kayfabe that surrounds the culture of college football is the true cost of the roster the Buckeyes have assembled for 2024, then I'm fairly certain they're willing to pay it.
 
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OHIO STATE IS FACING SOME CRITICISM FOR DOING TOO WELL IN THE OFFSEASON. SHOULD IT?​

145153_h.jpg


People have a poor perspective on what, exactly, constitutes "a lot of money."

What I mean by this is that for most of us, after a certain dollar amount money becomes essentially fictional. In my brain there is no functional difference between a few million dollars and five hundred billion dollars, because I'm never going to have either amount and wouldn't know what to do with it even if I had it (with that said, if anyone out there would like to give me five hundred billion dollars, I would love to try and figure this thing out).

One cool example that illustrates the concept is this site from 2021, showing visually the difference between median household income, a million dollars, a billion dollars, and the ultra-wealthy. If you're an average person looking at this chart, anything above a million bucks might seem wildly inappropriate.

But what if you're a state university with a gigantic donor base? What if you're a state university with a gigantic donor base who's athletic department just brought in $280 million dollars in revenue in the last fiscal year? What if you're in charge of maintaining the relevancy of a particular sport, which supports the viability of dozens of others (because damn, men's basketball ain't pulling their weight these days)? What if you just like winning football games while operating within the current set of rules?

I'll tell you what you do: you find the freaking cash to bring in the players to win the games to maintain the viability of one of the largest athletic departments in the United States.

Reactions to Ohio State's transfer portal haul are funny to me, in large part because I think it reveals a lot about the culture of college football and how fans of it think. There's a decent amount cognitive dissonance required to retroactively cheer cheatin'-ass programs like the Miami Hurricanes of the 1980's or the Nebraska Cornhuskers of the 1990's while simultaneously bemoaning players getting paid above board in 2024.

But that's college football! It's not about what you do, but how cool you look doing it. Paying players via a complicated Ponzi scheme involving speedboats and Hummel figurines is cooler than a kid signing a contract with an NIL collective after a lawyer looks it over for an hour.

Anyway, the takes reacting to the Buckeyes using a lot of NIL money to retain most of their current roster and bring in several of the best players in the transfer portal have settled somewhere between "this is the worst thing to ever happen to college football" and "well, they'd better win a national championship."

Let's address the latter first. Here's a quote from the shambling husk of Deadspin:



Ah, a Marvel movie reference. That's almost as bad as naming your long-running rival hate column after a single joke from a sitcom that went off the air over a decade ago.
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continued
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Everyone is trying to claw their way to the mountaintop. There's no cute, bespoke way to do it in a sports entertainment industry worth tens of billions of dollars. Ohio State and its supporters have the money they need to try and accomplish their goals, so they're going to spend it. It's as simple as that.

Major college athletics is and always has been a cutthroat business. If getting other programs getting angry at Ohio State for finally giving up the kayfabe that surrounds the culture of college football is the true cost of the roster the Buckeyes have assembled for 2024, then I'm fairly certain they're willing to pay it.

I think we are using the NIL the right way.

We aren't handing out blank checks to basically entire recruiting classes like A&M and Cryami. That's where things go sideways

You'll get paid if you come here but you gotta at least establish yourself with the program first.

Most of the money is going toward retaining players for another year who could go pro and for a few proven transfers to plug obvious holes.

You got bozos out here acting like we are doing the exact same things as A&M and Cryami though and are going to flop like them. Comical.
 
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I think we are using the NIL the right way.

We aren't handing out blank checks to basically entire recruiting classes like A&M and Cryami. That's where things go sideways

You'll get paid if you come here but you gotta at least establish yourself with the program first.

Most of the money is going toward retaining players for another year who could go pro and for a few proven transfers to plug obvious holes.

You got bozos out here acting like we are doing the exact same things as A&M and Cryami though and are going to flop like them. Comical.
Yeah I like it too. The issue before was not getting enough NIL support initially, but now we're getting it and just allocating it differently than most. There was a sharp correction and the recent moves are beyond encouraging.

All about using NIL to retain players or get proven players in the portal (see Howard, Judkins, Downs, etc.). Hopefully we find a really good OT in the portal and then we're ready to buckle down and rock.
 
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I swear I heard our last portal count was 6 new players coming to OSU. Did I miss something where that is dramatically higher than other schools, like Ole Miss and Texas AM?

10! B1G schools have more transfers than us. And 3 others have the exact same amount.

It's particularly funny coming from Michigan fans, who I feel like most of this garbage is coming from. They had 9! transfers on their national title team, most who significantly contributed (along with a few remaining transfers from the year before who contributed as well). But they'll sit there and tell you with a straight face that the team was 100% organic and home grown.

Not using the portal at all is going to get you left behind. It's just how things work now.
 
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10! B1G schools have more transfers than us. And 3 others have the exact same amount.

It's particularly funny coming from Michigan fans, who I feel like most of this garbage is coming from. They had 9! transfers on their national title team, most who significantly contributed (along with a few remaining transfers from the year before who contributed as well). But they'll sit there and tell you with a straight face that the team was 100% organic and home grown.

Not using the portal at all is going to get you left behind. It's just how things work now.
You can’t fix stupid


But you can ignore it
 
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Trying to connect the dots, from my feeble mind, indicates that tOSU NIL combines have ponied up the bucks to keep the Buckeye core players for one more year. Plus cherry pick players to fill specific holes on the team. (OL yet to be determined). Rather than use the shotgun approach as the SEC teams (looking at you TAMU, Ol Miss, Miami, tOSU used a rifle approach to target specific needs. Paying for a year of service before the player exhausts their eligibility indicates that those paychecks end, leaving (hopefully givers will backfill that usage) those funds for new players. Givers are fickle folk, withholding funding if they don't 'like' the results of a player or team accomplishments. As they say, that's a slippery slope. However, if the stated goals are achieved, then the funds may/usually (?) continue to flow. Especially if the funds are tax deductible through a 501(c)3. Sounds like either the State or Federal government will try to muck things up, all in the name of standardization as well. It will be interesting to sit on the sidelines and see what and how regulation happens. Doubtful that a 'one size fits all' approach, trying to craft a set of rules to give, say Oberlin, and equal say with an Ohio State. Please keep the NCAA out of it. Go Bucks! PS, it feels good to see tOSU join the fray, rather than them 'doing it our way', and losing ground. Let the Big Dogs eat!
 
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Maybe too strong agree, but Scum is getting their NIL game in order, and if we lose 4 and 5 stars because of NIL to those A-Holes, to me that is a huge decline. Lol
TTUN lost a ton just now. Buckeyes are having a surprising off-season with vets coming back, transfers and recruiting. Why the imaginary view that flat out doesn't exist ???
 
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