tOSU Recruiting Discussion

[Buckeye86]

Have read and re-read the above Birm quoted essay and just don't get all the angst. Maybe Script can explain how Ohio State is at such a disadvantage when unless I'm misstaken these recruits aren't visiting anywhere during the pandemic, not just Columbus. Its like Birm thinks we have to close now before these other schools get visits we cannot match. Even when this opens up, would J.T.and Egbuka not want to visit because the distance is suddenly too far?

1. He has to write about something.
2. Being overly confident is a great way to be wrong and look like a dbag in the world of recruiting.
3. Things can and do change very quickly.
4. I get the impression that in some cases guys like Birm work with kids to purposefully build suspense in certain recruitments where the cat is pretty much out of the bag - either intentionally as someone who is “in on it” or by just sharing what the kids are saying.

 

[Akron Rick]

1. He has to write about something.
2. Being overly confident is a great way to be wrong and look like a dbag in the world of recruiting.
3. Things can and do change very quickly.
4. I get the impression that in some cases guys like Birm work with kids to purposefully build suspense in certain recruitments where the cat is pretty much out of the bag - either intentionally as someone who is “in on it” or by just sharing what the kids are saying.

Thanks for the response. I know Birm's a good guy and is a good outlet for news. Just seems lately he's been a tad alarmist in an age where that's sadly becoming cliche.

 

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[buckeyebri]

Just a stupid flipping article. This is the kind of garbage writing that I just can’t stand. Geez there’s nothing going on so let me conjure up some crap just so I can submit an article.

 

[ScriptOhio]

BUCKEYES’ CINCINNATI COMMITS SHOWCASE WORK ETHIC

As we touched on in our piece on the physical transformation of Miyan Williams, Terrell, Trammell and Tyler Williams – of no relation to Miyan – are the three main people who own and run the private gym Run By U in Mount Healthy, Ohio in the Cincinnati area.

In addition to training Miyan, who played for Winton Woods High School, the three Williamses have trained a number of standout athletes in Cincinnati over the years. That includes Ohio State 2020 signees Paris Johnson Jr. and Darrion Henry-Young of Princeton High School, in addition to some training sessions with 2021 commit Jaylen Johnson and Devonta Smith, who decommitted from Ohio State on Thursday, of Cincinnati La Salle High School.

Miyan, Paris and Henry-Young are the players with Ohio State ties they have worked with the most. Trammell says that Run By U is an energetic gym environment where “they know we’re not gonna fluff your ego and tell them how great they are.”

“They know if they have a shitty attitude, we’re gonna be on them,” Trammell Williams said. “We’re gonna make sure that we don’t forget about ‘em. We’re gonna make sure that they work hard and hold them accountable.

“We’re not worried about your stars or what these media interviews are saying about you. We in here to work. If you ain’t in here to do that, you’re in the wrong place. That’s what we offer at Run By U. That’s why you see top-tier guys in here. You see why all those guys come to one place to work out.”

 

[ScriptOhio]

FWIW, here is a very good recap of all the recruiting classes from 1989 to today......



* Top Signees: Ohio State signed eight of Tom Lemming’s national top 100 prospects. They were: WR Roger Harper, OL Rod Smith, DL Mark Bean, DL Chuck Jones, DL Alonzo Spellman, DL Mark Williams, LB Don Davis, LB Tyrone Morrison.

* Other Signees: RB Raymont Harris, FB William Houston, OL Alan Kline, RB Dante Lee, DB Darrell Lewis, DT Dave Monnot, OL Eric Morgan, DB Chico Nelson, DB Foster Paulk, WR Aaron Payne, DL Jason Simmons, OL Jack Thrush, LB Steve Tovar, DB Tim Walton, K Tim Williams, OL Jason Winrow.

THE SKINNY
The hit rate on this class was very high with 12 of the 24 players becoming starters and several of them for three or four seasons. They also helped bring the Ohio State program back to prominence after some lean years.

They played in bowl games in each of their first four seasons. As many as nine of the 1989 signees – including four on the offensive line – were still around as starters in their fifth year in 1993. That’s when Ohio State reached as high as No. 3 in the national polls at midseason and ended up tied with Wisconsin for the Big Ten championship. That championship was OSU’s first in seven seasons, dating to 1986.

DL Alonzo Spellman, from New Jersey, had the highest ceiling. He came in and started as a freshman and lasted three seasons before jumping to the NFL as a first round pick in the 1992 draft. He ended up playing nine NFL seasons with the Chicago Bears, Dallas Cowboys and Detroit Lions.

OL Alan Kline, from Tiffin (Ohio) Columbian, was a four-year starter at offensive tackle, including his last three seasons at left tackle.

LB Steve Tovar, from Elyria (Ohio) West, was not a national top 100 player coming out of high school. But at 6-4 and 230 pounds he was definitely a specimen and played like it, leading the Buckeyes in tackles in each of his last three seasons (1990-92). He was a three-time All-Big Ten pick and an All-American in his last two seasons (1991-92). He was the first of 21 John Cooper recruits to achieve All-American status. Tovar, who remains fourth all-time in tackles (409) in OSU annals, went on to an eight-year NFL career.

DE Jason Simmons, from Akron (Ohio) St. Vincent-St. Mary’s, was a starter for three seasons. He is third in OSU annals in quarterback sacks (27-1/2) and tackles-for-loss (56-1/2).

OL Dave Monnot and Jason Winrow and safety Chico Nelson were all three-year starters.

Safety Roger Harper, from Columbus Independence, was a two-year starter and an All-Big Ten pick in 1992. He left a year early for the NFL, where he had a five-year career. CB Foster Paulk, OLB Mark Williams and CB Tim Walton were all two-year starters.

One of the best success stories was RB Raymont Harris, a Lorain (Ohio) Admiral King product who bided his time behind Carlos Snow and Robert Smith in his first four years. Finally as a fifth-year senior in 1993, Harris rushed for 1,344 yards and 12 touchdowns as the Buckeyes won a share of the Big Ten title. Harris went on to a six-year NFL career, split between the Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, Denver Broncos and New England Patriots. After spending time as a radio host on 97.1 The Fan, Harris currently works in the development office of the OSU athletic department.

Kicker Tim Williams was OSU’s starter for four years (1990-93) and stands third on the school’s career field goals made list with 49.

Harper, Spellman and Mark Williams were all national top 100 picks. Imagine how great this class would have been if the five other national top 100 prospects had panned out. The others were OL Rod Smith, DL Mark Bean, DL Chuck Jones, LB Don Davis and LB Tyrone Morrison. Davis suffered an injury that ended his college career prematurely. Smith remained as backup on the offensive line.

EDITOR’S NOTE – With college and professional sports on a hiatus due to the Coronavirus pandemic, we have spent time the last two months looking back at past Ohio State football recruiting classes. We hope you enjoy these lookbacks at some great recruiting stories over the years.

We have looked at the classes from 1990-2021 (linked below). Today, we will look at the 1989 Ohio State football recruiting class.

Here is a look at the previous 32 installments of this series:

1988 Class; 1990 Class; 1991 Class; 1992 Class; 1993 Class; 1994 Class; 1995 Class; 1996 Class; 1997 Class; 1998 Class; 1999 Class; 2000 Class; 2001 Class; 2002 Class; 2003 Class; 2004 Class; 2005 Class; 2006 Class; 2007 Class; 2008 Class; 2009 Class; 2010 Class; 2011 Class; 2012 Class; 2013 Class; 2014 Class; 2015 Class; 2016 Class; 2017 Class; 2018 Class; 2019 Class; 2020-21 Classes.

 

[Akron Rick]

Since things are unfortunately slow now I'm hoping to get an answer on something that I still am not sure about. With the NCAA now allowing athletes to profit off "their own likeness"
I believe is the correct term, has Ohio St. got out ahead of this thing like they did with "Real Life Wednesdays" ? Seems this could be another great recruiting tool (if allowable)
to be used to their advantage. Money does talk.

 

[johnson2443]

I mentioned earlier that it seems that they have been assigning numbers to committed recruits earlier than normal to start their “brand”. They are not allowed to do anything until the student is enrolled however. I don’t have specifics, but certain schools are going to be well ahead of the curve in regards to NIL, Ohio State will certainly be one of them.

 

[ScriptOhio]

Luke Montgomery, a rising-sophomore from Findlay, has a few. The 2023 prospect checks in at 6-foot-5 and 260 pounds and, he has been working hard to continue developing his frame into a high-level Division I football prospect. Like many young athletes, Montgomery actually prefers to play basketball right now — he’s played for Lebron James AAU team and now competes for Indiana Elite — but knows that football is the sport that provides him the best path toward college athletics.

 

[ScriptOhio]

Brown is next at Springfield

The Springfield Wildcats are loaded again with talent for this upcoming season and beyond. With several juniors already holding major offers, this fall should see some breakout players in the sophomore class.

Wide receiver Anthony Brown looks to be at the top of that list. The speedy 5-foot-10, 160-pound slot prospect already holds one Power Five offer.

"I have an offer from Kentucky," Brown told BuckeyeScoop.com recently. "It's a blessing. It just makes me want to work harder."

The Springfield program has a long history of sending players on to the next level and Brown has the ability to be one of those major Power Five recruits.

"It really just pushes me to work harder," he explained of the legacy at Springfield. "If they can do it, then I can do it. So it's just really motivating."

But there is also plenty of work to be done. Brown is just a class of 2023 prospect, meaning he has three years of high school football left. This is a big summer for him as he looks to elevate his game and become a go-to guy for the Wildcats.

"I'm working on my route running, I'm trying to get better at that," Brown explained. "I also need to step up and be more of a leader."

Brown is also a standout on the track where he projects to be one of the faster guys in his class in Ohio.

Entire article: https://buckeyescoop.com/page/blog/articles/brown-is-next-at-springfield/

 

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SKULL SESSION: SOCIAL MEDIA RECRUITING IS VITAL DURING THE PANDEMIC, AN OHIO STATE VICE PRESIDENT BEGS STUDENTS TO STOP PARTYING, AND QUINCY AVERY WOULD TELL JUSTIN FIELDS NOT TO PLAY IN THE SPRING

DIGITAL 'KROOTIN. It ain't easy to convince a top football teen to come to your school in the first place, but there's an added level of difficulty when you can't even let said football teen visit your campus due to a global pandemic.

Thankfully, Ohio State's already well-versed in what's currently one of the only remaining communication options: social media.

For nearly four months, in-person recruiting has been suspended due to the pandemic, leaving college coaches unable to invite prospects to campus for the usual springtime visits or summer camps.

That leaves social media feeds as one of the few visible windows into Ohio State for prospects, one of the limited forms of engagement.

“There are a lot of ways we use our social media,” said Zach Swartz, OSU football’s director of creative media and post-production, “but one of the big ways is to be that front door for recruits to see what it’s like, to want to come on a visit, want to see what the culture is like firsthand.

“Usually, they have that opportunity to come right after that. Now, we’re really having to rely heavily on digital.”

Hey, with the number of kids firmly committed to the program before they've even stepped foot on campus, I'd say whatever Zach and his team are doing is working wonders.

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...an-ohio-state-vice-president-begs-students-to

 

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Class of 2022’s Tayven Jackson of Greenwood (Ind.) Center Grove currently only has offers from Central Michigan and Indiana, but has attended an Ohio State game and told Bucknuts that he is interested in the Buckeyes.

2023 prospects, Cameron Edge, Tad Hudson and Aliam Appler, and 2024 prospect Jadyn Davis have all spoken to Ohio State staff and have all expressed their interest in the school. Kurelic emphasized Edge, Hudson and Davis as the ones most likely to land an offer from the Buckeyes and Edge as the one most likely to actually become a Buckeye.

 

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Class of 2022’s Tayven Jackson of Greenwood (Ind.) Center Grove currently only has offers from Central Michigan and Indiana, but has attended an Ohio State game and told Bucknuts that he is interested in the Buckeyes.

“MINIATURE MAHOMES”
Tayven Jackson’s teammates at Center Grove (Ind.) High School, or at least one of them, have a nickname for their young standout quarterback – one who is starting to get recruited by Ohio State and who is slated to get on the phone with Kevin Wilson sometime this week or next to open up communication lines for the first time.

“He’s like a miniature Mahomes,” said Center Grove defensive lineman Caden Curry, telling Eleven Warriors that Jackson reminds him of the Kansas City Chiefs star quarterback. “One thing is he has the athletic ability. It’s crazy how much he can do with the ball. He can run with it. He can pass it. He’s just gotta build into his body and get stronger, and he’ll be a really good quarterback.”

“He’s just fast with the ball, he can move out of the pocket, he can play with the running back and also throw the ball 50 yards downfield to somebody if he needs to. He’s got an arm on him. For the past two years, we’ve been a run-dominant team. But with him now at quarterback, we can open it up a little bit more. But we’re still mainly a running team. We’ll see what he can do this year to open it up some more and get some passes out there for him.”

One thing that might be even more impressive than Jackson’s arm – one that Jackson says can actually unleash a ball 75 yards – that reminds Curry of Mahomes?

“Well, he’s definitely got the hair down,” Curry says.

Jackson is the son of Ray Jackson and the nephew of Chris Jackson – a cornerback and receiver, respectively, who graduated from powerhouse Mater Dei High School (California), played at Washington State and got some experience in the NFL.

He is also the half-brother of Indiana basketball star Trayce Jackson-Davis, and his sister was a former high school All-American in volleyball who was recruited by Ohio State before she went to medical school and became a doctor.

Coming from such a highly athletic family has helped the two-sport athlete, who excels in football and basketball, throughout his young career.

“They teach me a lot of stuff,” Jackson said. “(My dad and uncle) know so much about football. They have so much football IQ so I just listen. I don’t really talk about. For me, I don’t really know anything, and they know everything. So I just open up. I’m like a sponge, and I just soak it all up.”

“(The recruiting process) is pretty new. My brother was a McDonald’s All-American. He got every school so, again, I was just like a sponge. I just watched him and whatever he did. So I just saw how he handled the recruiting process, and he’s been on my back going through this with me. So it’s nice to have everyone and have my whole family be there with me.”

Some of the advice Jackson got from his older half-brother was to make good relationships with the coaches who recruit you and that it’s not all about being a five-star and getting an offer right away. Instead, it’s more crucial to make relationships with coaches “because if you go to that school, you’re gonna be there for 3-4 years, so you might as well make a great relationship with the coaches.”

During the 2019 season, the 6-foot-5, 185 pound Jackson threw for 1,215 yards and nine touchdowns on 92-of-175 pass attempts. But those numbers could improve for Jackson, who is hoping to remain on the Buckeyes’ radar going forward. Ohio State’s coaches have told Jackson’s head coach at Center Grove, Eric Moore, that they want to see more junior season film before they think about extending an offer.

“I haven’t talked to them yet, but Coach said they like my footwork, they like the way I throw the ball, they like how I’m a dual-threat like Justin Fields,” Jackson said. “That’s what Coach said to me, but I can’t wait to get on the phone with them and talk to them because Ohio State’s just a big school. It’s one of my favorite schools.”

Jackson only holds two offers right now, from Indiana and Central Michigan, but he says every Big Ten school and USC have been showing interest.

Ohio State would probably be the early leader for Jackson if he were to receive an offer from the Buckeyes, as he has already loved what he’s seen there. In 2016, when his brother was being recruited by Ohio State, Jackson was essentially able to go on an unofficial visit to Columbus for the Buckeyes’ comeback against Penn State in The Shoe.

The atmosphere there left a lasting impression, as did the program’s facilities.

“It was just a blessing to be there,” Jackson said. “It was crazy all the blessings they have and all the machines and everything. I went in the weight room, and it was just crazy. It wasn’t about me. It was about my brother. So, again, I was in the background just chilling. I was just in the shadows.”

While there, Jackson was hoping that one day he would be in his brother’s shoes, being recruited by big-time programs. Soon enough, his potential recruitment to Columbus will begin once he gets on the phone with Wilson.

“I’m just gonna be a sponge,” Jackson said. “Just gonna soak up everything and ask him what I gotta work on, what he sees in me and what he has to say about Ohio State. Ohio State is gonna be a big school that if I get recruited there and get a scholarship, it’s gonna be a big school and a top contender to go there.”