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hawaiianbuckeye
Where's YOUR Gold Pants?
Mili the guy got autographs he was bitching b/c he didn't get what he wanted. Tuff SHIT! Take what you can get and shut up!
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matcar
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Wow, everybody has entitlements.
You're correct, you have a right to be upset, because they are, after all, your feelings and no one can take that away from you. But to extend that frustration to any organization that takes time to plan the event to the best of their ability (and apparently failed to make ALL attendees happy), well that's just silly. Perhaps next time people can just go to the event and enjoy the moments of being there rather than feeling "gypped" because they didn't get to carry something away from it other than the experience of being there. Unfortunately, it appears that some people supporting the event made some mistakes and it impacted a relative few. Fortunately, most of the people involved in the event supported it well and most attendees were happy.
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I don't think anyone here who have voiced their frustration (the responses I've read), including the poster from Springfield who came back and admitted that he over-reacted in what he said in his first post, is blaming Ohio State, the players, coaches, or the athletic department (maybe to some extent the organizers of the event, i.e. "the buck has to stop somewhere" so to speak, which would be Event Managment in the AD). But moreso their (or at least mine) frustration lies with appearant lines or sections of the stadium where it sounds like there was sufficient personel to monitor and stop line cutting, misinformation, etc. & there were areas that most definitely did not.
I am an Ohio State Football Usher. And at Usher Orientation this year it was stressed (by the exact same people who put on this event, ironically) that the "Guests" of any tOSU event (Football, Basketball, sporting contests or otherwise) are entitled to have the best experience possible. The team fans support the team and university by spending their time and money in regards to The Ohio State University when we/they could be spending both in regards to other things so when attending an event they/we are owed courtesty, respect, accurate information, well organized facilities, etc. These were all lacking greatly in the area that my son and I were.
I'm not saying that those in charge of organizing an event of this scale didn't attemt to provide the fans with these services. The switch of venues is an obvious indication that the interest level in the autograph/practice session was not anticipated. I also hope very much that events like this continue to be put on in the future as I believe they help maintain/add to a special relationship that Buckeye Fans have with our Teams, something that most other programs lack and don't even understand. And I'm sure the pitfalls and successes of this particular event will be looked at and future events will be better planned and organized because of this one (rule # 1: never underestimate the passion that Buckeye Fans have for their Teams).
But in light of all that said, as much as I "enjoy the moments of just being" at the 'Shoe' and in the presence of our Football Team, standing in line for nearly 6 hours with my 7 year old son does "entitle" me to not have to put up pushy, cheating, disrepectful, line jumpers who wanted something not only for free, but without having to wait under the same conditions or put in the same time as the rest of us. It even "entitles" me, according to Event Managements own guidelines to not being subjected to disinterested, misinformed, lazy event "workers" who refused to police the area they were supposed to be helping control. (based on my own experience at the area we were) And judging by others reports from other areas of the stadium, it can be done and was done well at times.
Finally, I assume that everyone who have voice some displeasure with their experience was not in the same line I was. And I know there were several dozens if not even hundreds of complaints in the combined areas I was both inside and outside the Stadium while I was in line, so compared to the 25,000 or so people there that night "a relative few" might be technically an accurate definition of those with negative experience, but their poor experience should not be minimalized by generalizing their complaints as coming from ingrates or malcontents who are simply non appreciative of the efforts of the University, AD, and Football Team. Some (quite a few from my vantage point) very resonable people came out to support their team (free event or not) spending their time, bringing their kids, helping build 'The Buckeye Nation', and many of their complaints/concerns are quite legit.
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Let's say you bring your wife and kids over to Campus on a Football Saturday wanting to all experience Skull Session (a completely free event) together as a family (their first time). You see a Red Coat (stadium ticket taker / St. Johns Arena usher) walking by one of the entrance doors inside the Arena and ask when the doors open to get good seats. He tells you when and where you can get in, and so to really be front and center of the action you all get in line a couple hours before the doors open. Unfortuneatly (for you and many others now lining up behind you), the well intending but incorrect Red Coat told you to wait at an incorrect door, and come time for the doors to be opened you see hundreds of people pouring into St. John's as their doors open while yours remains closed, rendering your time and effort worthless.
Or you are in the correct line, close to the front and waiting to get in, but then some asswipe and his buddys walk right up in front of you and cut. You say something to them, but they don't care. An usher and even a cop stand right there, shooting the breese and don't do anything, even after you point out the situation that they obviously witnessed, but they tell you that they can't do anything about it (yes I saw this happen Monday night).
Or you take your family to the Skull Session, get great seats (from waiting in line for hours) but when you go to take a couple of your kids to the bathroom / get a hot dog a few obnoxious high school / college kids move into your seats. Your wife tells them that they are occupied by her husband and kids, but they say tough luck.
Now, should these people be told by the OSU officials, i.e. Ushers, security, police that "hey, it's a free event. you're not entitled to anything because you didn't pay", or "you should be satisfied to just be here...enjoy the atmosphere and quit your complaining."? Or should they be told by other fans, who had a good experience, that they don't even have a right to be upset? I don't think so, and actually, neither does tOhio State University Event Managment.
But like I said before. I know they strive to put on great events, fun for all. And I know they hope to keep those not interested me and my family's or anyone else's but their own enjoyment (i.e. selfish, inconsiderate pricks) from deteriorating the atmosphere of tOSU events, free or otherwise. I was still happy to be there, but if anyone should ask for my opinion of ways to improve similar future events, I won't simply say that "since it's a free event the fans / 'guests' have no reason to expect or even hope for a well organized, fair environment" for me to bring my family to.
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If there were only only a few areas that needed improvement, then that's good to hear and hopefully the next time they do this (hopefully they make this an annual thing), they can assign personnel to areas based on who'll be signing.
If that's the case then he needs to either say "Thanks" or he should STFU.
I think that with the amount of people that came out, and the fact that we'll most likely be playing more nights games each year, they should make this an annual thing. Hopefully they'll take the "lessons learned" from this and make future such events even better.
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hawaiianbuckeye
Where's YOUR Gold Pants?
Here is the quote:
"Not to be a jerk or anything but 1 i waited for about 4-5 hours, i was told by the people working that i was in the right line and as i found out i wasnt but what made me mad was i had seen my cousin in the right line and i slid in with him....and jerks went pysco on me.....they know how i felt when i waited that whole time to get in and be one of the first people in but people show up 15 minutes before the gate open and just cut eveyone, so when you say be happy i say mind you own business please, i am happy with a few autographs but i came for certain ones and rude Jerks stoped me from that......"
So my point to him was first that the autographs he got should NOT be referred to as NOBODY'S b/c in reality if that someone's real opinion, they're THE NOBODY wishing they were the one signing autographs and wearing the uniform. I laid into him pretty good about this and IMO it was warranted. He came to the realization that he should stop bitching.
It would be nice to have this become an annual event a la the Packer's Family Night etc BUT if they are going to do the autograph deal they need to set standards and perhaps hire people who have actually organized signings before. Chaos at this type of event is not needed. In reality you'll never please everyone but you should do your best to try and make it enjoyable for everyone.
I actually have a great idea on how to possibly curb some of the BS and speed up the POPULAR lines. I'll PM you.
HAYN
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Scoots, clear out your PM box so I can send you something...your PM box is full and won't accept any more.
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UWeekly
The New New Monday Night Football
I used to think that thousands of people reading your work everyday was a hefty amount of pressure.
How about 28,000 watching you practice? If Jim Tressel’s sweaters weren’t so conveniently vested, you might think he’d be sporting some nervous pit-stains thanks to the expectations these pre-season is generating in Columbus.
Ah, who am I kidding? The man’s a cyborg. There’s no sweat in him.
Monday night’s inaugural night practice — there will clearly be a push to make this a yearly thing — almost seemed like the act of a man embracing the challenges laid before him and his team.
The No. 1 rating, and endless string of Heisman-hype interviews for his two best players, the Clarett deal — yes, he is still attached to the university unfortunately — and one season removed from what some thought was a real shot at another title and Tressel’s still cool as a cucumber.
Close up shop? Nah, let’s have an open house.
So, maybe Monday Night Football at the Shoe was someone’s idea way above Tressel. Regardless, to trot your players out for autographs and baby pictures, is a classy thank you to a rabid fan base, who quite honestly would mark Tressel up with a Sharpie themselves if the Bucks ever lose more than three games again.
By the way, how often do you see a Heisman trophy candidate palming a baby? The way it goes around here, pictures with Teddy Ballgame might replace Santa on the fridge this year.
And, that fanaticism is at am embarrassing peak:
I saw at least two tailgates still kicking at 8 p.m. (that means they weren’t going in — the game was free); and when Ryan Pretorius and Aaron Pettrey booted balls to Gonzo and Ginn, the crowd did the customary ‘AAAAHHH, OHHHH!’ to accompany the kick.
That was a little weird, but at least no one was booing.
While, fans ga-ga’d over seeing Troy Smith up close, Tressel was killing a different bird with the same stone. Just after 9:30 p.m., the band marched down the back ramp, and planted itself in the south stands.
The fans delighted, like it was the next act in a circus. Tress, no doubt, was giggling with joy at the idea of simulated crowd noise and game atmosphere.
From his first speech at halftime of a basketball game (Tress only needed to mention the first syllable of Michigan and had the students eating out of his hand) to the singing of Carmen, Ohio (that capped Monday, just like a real game), Tressel sweats the little things. As far as a putting little touches on college football program, he just gets it — always has.
On a performance note, there’s not much to get out of a practice. But, we’ll try anyway.
— If time passed through the spring and summer fast enough for you, noticing a scarlet streak with a No. 4 on it may not have been eye-catching. But, remember Santonio is in Pittsburgh, Monday night it was both freshmen Ray Small and Kurt Coleman. It had been rumored a few months back that former Glenville star Small was having problems getting his test scores cleared; Buckeye fans will be glad he’s on the right side of the ruler now.
Coleman turned heads with a pick for a TD, much like he did in the Spring Game.
— At the risk of sounding like a fanatic myself, at one point, I turned to the reporter next to me, and wondered aloud whether Ginn looked faster. Is such a thing even possible? I could have sworn it seemed so. If it is, get ready for your raise, Butch Reynolds. At any rate, Ginn gave off a clear go-to-vibe in receiving drills, completing a variety of different routes with ease. Of course, with OSU’s safeties unproven, evaluating his improvement will have to wait until Sept. 3.
— The receivers in general look extremely solid. In addition to Small, Brian Robiskie’s route running looks very sharp and deliberate, while Brian Hartline kept catching the eye, too. Maybe it’s because he looked like Brian Stablein circa 1992 swinging twin towels from his belt, but that’s neither here nor there. That’s enough wardrobe talk until I state my case for the old gray basketball unis.
— Other than that, I’m not sure whether it was boring or enlightening for the public to peek in on practice. I’m sure there were tons of people who didn’t quite realize that ‘practice’ means ‘practice’ and no scrimmage. But, you think that really mattered? If you did it again this Saturday, there’d be another 65,000 waiting at the gates, just like the spring.
The New New Monday Night Football
How about 28,000 watching you practice? If Jim Tressel’s sweaters weren’t so conveniently vested, you might think he’d be sporting some nervous pit-stains thanks to the expectations these pre-season is generating in Columbus.
Ah, who am I kidding? The man’s a cyborg. There’s no sweat in him.
Monday night’s inaugural night practice — there will clearly be a push to make this a yearly thing — almost seemed like the act of a man embracing the challenges laid before him and his team.
Close up shop? Nah, let’s have an open house.
So, maybe Monday Night Football at the Shoe was someone’s idea way above Tressel. Regardless, to trot your players out for autographs and baby pictures, is a classy thank you to a rabid fan base, who quite honestly would mark Tressel up with a Sharpie themselves if the Bucks ever lose more than three games again.
By the way, how often do you see a Heisman trophy candidate palming a baby? The way it goes around here, pictures with Teddy Ballgame might replace Santa on the fridge this year.
I saw at least two tailgates still kicking at 8 p.m. (that means they weren’t going in — the game was free); and when Ryan Pretorius and Aaron Pettrey booted balls to Gonzo and Ginn, the crowd did the customary ‘AAAAHHH, OHHHH!’ to accompany the kick.
That was a little weird, but at least no one was booing.
While, fans ga-ga’d over seeing Troy Smith up close, Tressel was killing a different bird with the same stone. Just after 9:30 p.m., the band marched down the back ramp, and planted itself in the south stands.
The fans delighted, like it was the next act in a circus. Tress, no doubt, was giggling with joy at the idea of simulated crowd noise and game atmosphere.
From his first speech at halftime of a basketball game (Tress only needed to mention the first syllable of Michigan and had the students eating out of his hand) to the singing of Carmen, Ohio (that capped Monday, just like a real game), Tressel sweats the little things. As far as a putting little touches on college football program, he just gets it — always has.
On a performance note, there’s not much to get out of a practice. But, we’ll try anyway.
Coleman turned heads with a pick for a TD, much like he did in the Spring Game.
— At the risk of sounding like a fanatic myself, at one point, I turned to the reporter next to me, and wondered aloud whether Ginn looked faster. Is such a thing even possible? I could have sworn it seemed so. If it is, get ready for your raise, Butch Reynolds. At any rate, Ginn gave off a clear go-to-vibe in receiving drills, completing a variety of different routes with ease. Of course, with OSU’s safeties unproven, evaluating his improvement will have to wait until Sept. 3.
— The receivers in general look extremely solid. In addition to Small, Brian Robiskie’s route running looks very sharp and deliberate, while Brian Hartline kept catching the eye, too. Maybe it’s because he looked like Brian Stablein circa 1992 swinging twin towels from his belt, but that’s neither here nor there. That’s enough wardrobe talk until I state my case for the old gray basketball unis.
— Other than that, I’m not sure whether it was boring or enlightening for the public to peek in on practice. I’m sure there were tons of people who didn’t quite realize that ‘practice’ means ‘practice’ and no scrimmage. But, you think that really mattered? If you did it again this Saturday, there’d be another 65,000 waiting at the gates, just like the spring.
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tedginn05
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I think, and hope this will be a yearly thing. I mean it gives the fans a chance to see the team, and it gives the team a chance to see and play with the fans making noise like a real game experience.
I don't know how many teams do things like this. I mean having a open practice at their stadium. If there is other teams that have done this before and still do, I'm willing to bet that they never had 28,000 people show up.
I don't know how many teams do things like this. I mean having a open practice at their stadium. If there is other teams that have done this before and still do, I'm willing to bet that they never had 28,000 people show up.
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rocketman
flying low
FYI, The U Weekly is the "unauthorized" campus newspaper that has no affiliation with Ohio State, or The Lantern for that matter. Having said that, they do a pretty damn good job when it comes to sports analysis, and at the same time can be more risque and get away with it. I honestly don't know how they make money, cause you can get the paper for free on campus.
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Osu|2002
Sophmore
lol sorry for such a late post but i just caught up on all what was said...
I do apoligize for this big thing over anything.....
Hawaian buckeye (sorry if i spelled wrong) its not the autographs i got i was mad about i was angry that i wait 4-5 hours then people just show up before the gates open and just cut everyone......I am a diehard buckeye fan and yes its free, thats why i came so early so i could get a good spot but then jerks in the Smith, Gonzo, tressel said i was cutting people and stuff but it really wasnt like that.....
lol trust me i am happy i got Oneal Dukes freeman but i did come for troy gonzo and coach but people just were acting stupid......
again something funny is i had such a bad time i will still come next year bcuz any time i get to see them buckeyes im there, but i am a little smarter on how the event is handled and i will know what to do..........
I pray that OSU fixes the problem and maybe organizes the event next year...
So this thread is over, 5 days till kick off and let me say
I do apoligize for this big thing over anything.....
Hawaian buckeye (sorry if i spelled wrong) its not the autographs i got i was mad about i was angry that i wait 4-5 hours then people just show up before the gates open and just cut everyone......I am a diehard buckeye fan and yes its free, thats why i came so early so i could get a good spot but then jerks in the Smith, Gonzo, tressel said i was cutting people and stuff but it really wasnt like that.....
lol trust me i am happy i got Oneal Dukes freeman but i did come for troy gonzo and coach but people just were acting stupid......
again something funny is i had such a bad time i will still come next year bcuz any time i get to see them buckeyes im there, but i am a little smarter on how the event is handled and i will know what to do..........
I pray that OSU fixes the problem and maybe organizes the event next year...
So this thread is over, 5 days till kick off and let me say
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