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Game Thread tOSU @ Indiana, Sat 10/3 @ 3:30p ET, ABC/ESPN2

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CookyPuss said:
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Clearly, the offense sucks.

Seriously, 3rd down was a problem. Penalties were an issue. The TOs hurt. Work needs to be done, but this is not just a QB issue.
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In no way whatsoever should Jalin Marshall be listed as a top performer. I don't care how many yards he can account for, when the ball goes on the ground MULTIPLE TIMES, he should feel lucky to simply touch the field. He has a problem that needs fixed NOW.
 
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TDunk said:
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I think I figured out what a hoosier is... either a camel toe or a huge clit.
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HAHAHAHA!!! Or a dingleberry?
 
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bukIpower said:
No reason at all systemid. There's so many things that could be wrong with our team. A glaring issue to me is CJ in the red zone because if we can turn our 3s in 7s that'll go a long way in giving us some much needed rhythm and confidence. I just don't know if CJ in tight spots were we rely on accuracy and timing to score touchdowns is going to work. I'd rather put Braxton in and be obvious we are running than to see another freaking pass sail into the stands.

Isn't it odd that they scream at CJ to "throw is away" if it ain't there. To me that says we trust you for one read but after that we don't. So many red flags to me that says this is a square peg and a round hole in regards to CJ fitting this offense.

Side note if you turn the ball over multiple times in this offense you shouldn't see the field. We have enough talent itching for more reps that we can stand to reduce Marshalls touches in order to get Dontre more who deserves them.

If UFM loves the psychology of things this would be a good route for him. It's simple you reward hustle and you penalize those who put the team in bad spots with turnovers.

Once again they scored 10 (maybe 17) points off of our turnovers. Don't play those who can't handle the ball
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I said last year I thought CJ was the worst of our three QBs in the RedZone and I got lambasted for it. I said he can't run the ball, can't roll out, and isn't as accurate in tight spots and I got reamed. Well, he is the same this year. We have too many FGs when we have first and goal from the 5 when CJ is behind center for multiple reasons. And it continues. I guess the same guys will rail on me again, but it is becoming obvious to everyone now.
 
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Rewatching the game from my recording. It's safe to say that the announcers wanted to see #1 go down and they relished in the lack of offense in the first half. Everyone is taking shots at the Champs. Giving ESPN as well as the goofy IU fans the fickle finger of fate multiple times during the playback. Go Bucks.
 
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utgrad73 said:
Rewatching the game from my recording. It's safe to say that the announcers wanted to see #1 go down and they relished in the lack of offense in the first half. Everyone is taking shots at the Champs. Giving ESPN as well as the goofy IU fans the fickle finger of fate multiple times during the playback. Go Bucks.
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To be fair, I don't think the announcers were biased. I think they are just fucking morons, so I see how it could come off that way. Mike Patrick isn't lucid and Ed Cunningham thinks his title reads "coach".'
 
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Explosive plays saved the day for Ohio State against Indiana

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Ohio State was slightly less efficient per play, more explosive, and much less efficient per drive than usual with turnovers and third down woes.

For the second week in a row, explosive plays were the difference in the game, but this time they were almost entirely on the ground. Unlike the 20-point expected margin of victory from S&P+, Ohio State won by only a touchdown.

Concerned? That's fair. The Buckeyes offense was inconsistent again, reeling off an explosive play and then following up with a three-and-out, and almost never converting a third down. Against Indiana. The defense played fairly well, but allowed three touchdowns, including one 80-yard drive, one explosive play, and one short-field touchdown off of a turnover.

In short, you can see the flashes of talent that got the Buckeyes to the playoff last season, but it's inconsistent. And even more concerning, it's less efficient.

To be clear, there's no real need to press the panic button yet. The overall goal is still in sight. Just compared to last season, the Buckeyes rebounded from the loss to Virginia Tech with four-straight games where they scored at least 50 points and had a three-touchdown margin of victory. Everything was clicking on that side of the ball.

That's not the case this season. The defense is playing better, both just using the eye test and looking at the numbers. But the offense has struggled to be explosive, had a slight decline in efficiency, and a plague of turnovers that have killed drives and diminished the effectiveness of Ohio State's talented offensive weapons.
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Entire article: http://www.landgrantholyland.com/2015/10/4/9448681/ohio-state-indiana-football-recap-advanced-stats
 
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cincibuck said:
Again, the "best offense in the country"struggled mightily at times - against Navy, Va. Tech, Penn State, Michigan State, Minnie, Indiana and Michigan. And while the offense was dropping 50 on the Bearcats, the defense was surrendering 28 including three bombs to one wide receiver. They blew two red zone opportunities against Alabama, came alive in the second quarter and most of the third quarter and then settled into a disastrous sequence that coulda/shoulda turned the game to Alabama's favor until Zeke's 80 yard run. Against Oregon they pissed away four scoring opportunities on fumbles and/or mistakes.

Point: This is nothing new. You run a very high-powered, sophisticated offense you're going to make a number of high-risk, unsophisticated errors.

The problem with having a highly successful coach head the program is that his assistants become head coaches elsewhere and thus the coaching "chemistry" is always developing. As for "offensive juggernaut," those 50 or more points games came against Kent State, Cincinnati, Maryland, Rutgers, Illinois and Wisconsin - out of that group, only the Badgers had something resembling a defense.
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Good post.
 
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I find it funny that after so many years of being labeled "Mr. Contrarian" on this site, I'm now seen as the blind optimist.

Frankly I find it funny that this shift has taken place inside me and confess that for years I thought the sky was surely falling on OSU football.

Nonetheless, it ain't me who has repeatedly said, "Who cares about the (insert Michigan, the Big Ten, SOS, beating the spread) if the Bucks win all their games they'll be in the playoffs."

Suddenly there is an eye test - and in previous years I would be among those who brought it up - but here we go - if the Bucks go undefeated they will be in the playoffs. The SOS figures are weak, the team is not matching preseason hype, Michigan State, Penn State and Michigan, aren't blowing the doors off of their competition, but ND, USC, MsSU, Ol' Miss, Auburn, Oregon, Alabama have all lost a game and thus, if the Bucks win out, the Bucks will have passed the eye test.

There's no one coming out of the Pac with a clean record. Any team in the SEC west will probably have at least 1 loss - and will probably kick the shit out of the east SEC champ in the CCG - Notre Dame will probably still win the ACC, but won't get to play in the CCG to prove it.

If the Bucks lose to Sparty or Michigan, they won't get in the CCG. If they don't lose, they'll end up facing the winner of the Northwestern - Iowa game in the CCG.

Frankly, even among a batch of one loss teams, Ohio state would stand an excellent chance because TV wants a team from the Midwest to go up against a team from the South or the West and because, as the Sugar Bowl and PCG proved, Ohio State travels as well as Alabama and Notre Dame and far better than Oregon, USC, TCU, Baylor or any ACC team.

Just win.
 
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cincibuck said:
I find it funny that after so many years of being labeled "Mr. Contrarian" on this site, I'm now seen as the blind optimist.

Frankly I find it funny that this shift has taken place inside me and confess that for years I thought the sky was surely falling on OSU football.

Nonetheless, it ain't me who has repeatedly said, "Who cares about the (insert Michigan, the Big Ten, SOS, beating the spread) if the Bucks win all their games they'll be in the playoffs."

Suddenly there is an eye test - and in previous years I would be among those who brought it up - but here we go - if the Bucks go undefeated they will be in the playoffs. The SOS figures are weak, the team is not matching preseason hype, Michigan State, Penn State and Michigan, aren't blowing the doors off of their competition, but ND, USC, MsSU, Ol' Miss, Auburn, Oregon, Alabama have all lost a game and thus, if the Bucks win out, the Bucks will have passed the eye test.

There's no one coming out of the Pac with a clean record. Any team in the SEC west will probably have at least 1 loss - and will probably kick the [Mark May] out of the east SEC champ in the CCG - Notre Dame will probably still win the ACC, but won't get to play in the CCG to prove it.

If the Bucks lose to Sparty or Michigan, they won't get in the CCG. If they don't lose, they'll end up facing the winner of the Northwestern - Iowa game in the CCG.

Frankly, even among a batch of one loss teams, Ohio state would stand an excellent chance because TV wants a team from the Midwest to go up against a team from the South or the West and because, as the Sugar Bowl and PCG proved, Ohio State travels as well as Alabama and Notre Dame and far better than Oregon, USC, TCU, Baylor or any ACC team.

Just win.
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I get ya. If we keep winning it'll all take care of itself but do you really think this performance is going to top MSU OR scUM? I tend to think not which is why you see the response that many of us are displaying. I think we can all agree that we will lose handily if we play the way we've played for 4 weeks when we travel to Ann Arbor.
 
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