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Game Thread tOSU at Penn State - Oct 27th, 5:30 ET, ESPN

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Muck;2245067; said:
New York Times



I like it

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Great article/recap until they called this game OSU's unofficial bowl game.
 
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LordJeffBuck;2245171; said:
Okay, here you go:

Walter Camp All Americans

Ohio State (11)
Randy Gradishar (1973)
Tom Cousineau (1977, 1978)
Marcus Marek (1982)
Chris Spielman (1987)
Andy Katzenmoyer (1997)
A.J. Hawk (2004, 2005)
James Laurinaitis (2006, 2007, 2008)

Penn State (9)
Dennis Onkotz (1968, 1969)
Jack Ham (1970)
Greg Buttle (1975)
Shane Conlan (1986)
LaVar Arrington (1999)
Paul Posluszny (2005, 2006)
Dan Connor (2007)

Butkus Awards

Ohio State (2)
Andy Katzenmoyer (1997)
James Laurinaitis (2007)

Penn State (2)
LaVar Arrington (1999)
Paul Posluszny (2005)

Lombardi Awards

Ohio State (2)
Chris Spielman (1987)
A.J. Hawk (2005)

Penn State (0)


College Hall of Famers

Ohio State (2)
Chris Spielman
Randy Gradishar

Penn State (2)
Jack Ham
Dennis Onkotz

NFL First Round Draft Picks

Ohio State (10)
Jim Houston (1960)
Randy Gradishar (1974)
Rick Middleton (1974)
Bob Brudzinski (1977)
Tom Cousineau (1979)
Eric Kumerow (1988)
Craig Powell (1995)
Andy Katzenmoyer (1999)
Bobby Carpenter (2006)
A.J. Hawk (2006)

Penn State (4)
Dave Robinson (1963)
Ed O'Neil (1974)
Shane Conlan (1987)
LaVar Arrington (2000)

Recapitulation

All Americans: Ohio State +2

Butkus Awards: even

Lombardi Awards: Ohio State +2

Hall of Famers: even

First Round Picks: Ohio State +6

Overall: Ohio State +10

:osu: :osu: :osu: :osu: THE REAL LINEBACKER U!!! :osu: :osu: :osu: :osu:​
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Haha screw you Pedo State
 
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I love #36 but he was dead wrong about the holding call on the punt.

The long snapper on the punt is not firing out at anyone's knees. He is trying to get down field and cover. If an outside guy grabbed a gunner by the shoulder pads and brought him down with his own momentum as he ran forward it would be called every time (well maybe not in the B1G but that's not the point). The point is, after the snap the long snapper holds a block (if necessary) for about a 1/1000 count then busts it down field to cover the punt so if he was firing out it wasn't to block anyone. It was to release from the line and cover the punt. Riding him to the ground is the very definition of defensive holding.

It was the right call.
 
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Jaxbuck;2245254; said:
I love #36 but he was dead wrong about the holding call on the punt.

The long snapper on the punt is not firing out at anyone's knees. He is trying to get down field and cover. If an outside guy grabbed a gunner by the shoulder pads and brought him down with his own momentum as he ran forward it would be called every time (well maybe not in the B1G but that's not the point). The point is, after the snap the long snapper holds a block (if necessary) for about a 1/1000 count then busts it down field to cover the punt so if he was firing out it wasn't to block anyone. It was to release from the line and cover the punt. Riding him to the ground is the very definition of defensive holding.

It was the right call.
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I said pretty much the same thing during the game when the announcers said it was a bad call. Why in the hell would anyone on Ohio State's line be going after a players legs on a punt? They need to get down field to cover the punt, so blocking low would be idiotic and never taught. From my view it was pretty clear the PSU guy grabbed him and dragged him down.
 
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Jaxbuck;2245254; said:
I love #36 but he was dead wrong about the holding call on the punt.

The long snapper on the punt is not firing out at anyone's knees. He is trying to get down field and cover. If an outside guy grabbed a gunner by the shoulder pads and brought him down with his own momentum as he ran forward it would be called every time (well maybe not in the B1G but that's not the point). The point is, after the snap the long snapper holds a block (if necessary) for about a 1/1000 count then busts it down field to cover the punt so if he was firing out it wasn't to block anyone. It was to release from the line and cover the punt. Riding him to the ground is the very definition of defensive holding.

It was the right call.
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Not to mention the whole rule that says that the long snapper can't be touched for a full second after snapping the ball if a kick is taking place.
 
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Jaxbuck;2245254; said:
I love #36 but he was dead wrong about the holding call on the punt.

The long snapper on the punt is not firing out at anyone's knees. He is trying to get down field and cover. If an outside guy grabbed a gunner by the shoulder pads and brought him down with his own momentum as he ran forward it would be called every time (well maybe not in the B1G but that's not the point). The point is, after the snap the long snapper holds a block (if necessary) for about a 1/1000 count then busts it down field to cover the punt so if he was firing out it wasn't to block anyone. It was to release from the line and cover the punt. Riding him to the ground is the very definition of defensive holding.

It was the right call.
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Actually, it wasn't the right call. Roughing the center was the proper call. Regardless....first down.
 
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Bill Lucas;2245293; said:
Not to mention the whole rule that says that the long snapper can't be touched for a full second after snapping the ball if a kick is taking place.
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There is no time limit. Can't touch him while his head is down.
 
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