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tOSU at Notre Dame, Sat. 9/23, 7:30pm EST, NBC

College football Week 4 highlights: Top plays, games, takeaways​

Week 4 gave us big-boy football.

Ohio State toppled Notre Dame by about an inch and a half with one second left on the clock.

In South Bend, Sam Hartman and a methodical ground game had Ohio State on the ropes and Notre Dame oh-so close to a signature win. It was not to be. Kyle McCord led a 15-play drive, hit Emeka Egbuka for a 21-yard pickup to the 1 on third-and-19, then helped push Chip Trayanum just barely over the goal line with a second left to play. If the Big Ten has given us myriad 17-14 games over the years that felt like watching paint dry, Ohio State's win was more akin to a Godzilla-versus-Mothra showdown of titans, in which every inch of real estate earned felt momentous.

Just sayin': One of the few games this weekend that actually lived up to the "hype". It will be interesting to see the game's "TV rating".....8D



Ohio State's win over Notre Dame is a good example of....

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This was an interesting game, big picture wise, since it was a very loseable game for Ohio State. If tOSU had lost, especially close like it was, it really would not have meant much of anything big picture wise, with PSU and TTUN on the schedule. If we were going to lose one, this is the one to lose. Yes, there's "the narrative" but that's just media talking heads looking for clicks. All that is forgotten at the end of the year. This game meant much more for ND.

Still, head and heart say two different things with 4 minutes left in the 4th, down 4 with a rookie QB, hobbled MHJ and a suspect O-line. Still, they somehow did it. This was the most 2002 victory I've seen in a long time. Someone posted "Kyle Mckrenzel" and I think that's pretty good. A lot of similarities there with more upside.

If the team can use this game as a "loss" in certain aspects, and come together and improve like you often do after a loss, then this will be even more a 2002 type victory.

I don't feel like either line is elite. Very little pressure from the D-line in passing, and they pretty much ran down our throats in the 2nd half, although much of that was ND calling the perfect run play for the alignment. Perhaps another case of having 9th year college QB playing. I know ND has maybe the best O-line we will see, but if want to be the best you have to beat the best. I don't feel we really "beat" them with the D-line and I'm not sure if they are going to get much better as the year goes on. It's a veteran unit.

The O-line was pretty good in pass protection, as they have been this year. Still no faith they can get that hard yard, either from the fans or the coaches. The O-line can improve quite a bit still, however.

Love what I'm seeing out of the defensive backfield. They just might save us this year. No big plays, no busts.

The offensive skill players are what we expect. Love seeing Henderson back to full speed and Traynum obviously has that dog in him. I think we will need Myan down the stretch and he will still be the old Myan.

Very hopeful about McCord. He was all over the place early on with several mis-reads and inaccurate throws, which is probably why Day dialed it back a bit. This was all most likely big game yips and hopefully next time he will be more accurate early on. I'm sure that he will, although for some QB's that's just who they are so we'll have to wait and see. We've definitely been spoiled with accurate QB's for the last 5 or so years. Haskins, Fields, and Stroud all had amazing touch and we've seen that from McCord but his early performance was a bit rough. If McCord had even JT Barrett level of throwing performance early on, I think Ohio State goes in to the half up 14-0 minimum. Seeing him improve in the 2nd half was encouraging and he didn't turn the ball over.

Even with the win, I'm really not liking Ryan Day's gameday coaching. He really needs to hand over play calling to Hartline. He will still have veto of course, he is the head coach so he can still make a call, but there is just too much going on for the head coach to be worrying about each and every offensive play call. So many bone headed calls. I don't understand it. Not using that last time out with 2:05 left was failing game management 101. The last play was a 3rd down with 3 seconds left on the clock. If we don't make it in, not calling that time out would have cost the game. If he calls the time out, and we still get the grounding call and 10 second runoff, we still have 15-20 seconds on the clock on that 3rd down, so you still have plenty of time to get in two plays. I don't get it but whatever. I guess it makes games exciting.

I think that if Ohio State and Notre Dame somehow meet again in the playoffs, Ohio State wins walking away.
 
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They think the refs were bad......for us.
They got sucked in by the homer announcer and didn't see all the obvious holds they ignored.

On a lot of their big runs there were holds at the point of attack. And don't even get me started on them holding Marv every damn play before he got hurt. And half the other receivers on what seemed like half the plays
 
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We failed inside the 10 twice and had two other drives in ND Territory failed by penalties.

We have short yards issues which is the primary concern holding this team back.

All that said, I don’t even care. They’ll figure it out. We have to remember that this is McCords 5th career start and it was vs #9 ND at night and on the road. They’ll improve.
No chit, I was simply stating the next level of concern the team will need to look at and figure out.
 
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They got sucked in by the homer announcer and didn't see all the obvious holds they ignored.

On a lot of their big runs there were holds at the point of attack. And don't even get me started on them holding Marv every damn play before he got hurt. And half the other receivers on what seemed like half the plays
I've seen a lot of whining that they were "jobbed" by the referees. Other than, "they're just being crybabies," what specific plays do they think they got screwed on? I mean, how was there no mention of Harrison's foot being down? Or when McCord got flagged for grounding, there was no mention of a facemask penalty? I thought the referees were pretty close to fair.
 
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They were as benignly incompetent as you can hope for when dealing with a B1G officiating crew.
Which is basically don't expect them to call holding like ever. It's not pass interference unless you tackle them, expect a yard spot favorage for the home team.

Oh we didn't get our usual Big Ten officials ignoring an obvious targeting and instead kicking someone out on a made up one though so no Bingo
 
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Interesting item for the gamblers:

Ohio State - Notre Dame refs adding 1 second back on the clock led to the worst bad beat of the season​

The end of Ohio State-Notre Dame featured what will certainly be one of the most dramatic finishes of the college football season.

It also featured what will undoubtedly be the most brutal bad beat that sports bettors will face on Saturdays this fall.

On the 3rd-and-goal right outside the Notre Dame end zone with just three seconds to go, Ohio State running back Chip Trayanum ran in a touchdown to give Ohio State the 16-14 walk-off victory as time expired.

Well, that’s how it looked until the referees decided there was a second left on the clock for an extra point try for the Buckeyes.

That’s not the end of the world for Ohio State, who would kick the extra point with ease and add to the score by a single point.

For bettors and sportsbooks alike, it was a devastating blow as the extra point pushed all bets on the game.

You see, the game spread was three points for both Ohio State and Notre Dame bettors. A two-point difference in the final outcome would’ve cashed every bet for Notre Dame +2.5 or +3, but a three-point difference doesn’t do anyone any favors.
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I actually wondered if Ohio State would actually try the kick. I know extra point kicks are almost never blocked and run back for 2 points; however, going for 2 and just take a knee might have been a safer option:

 
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Honest question here...what was the deal with first half catch overturn by Marv where he clearly had a foot on the ground before landing on the sideline? Am I missing something?
Announcers later did state that his feet were clearly down. Per the announcers, they contacted the B1G review officials who stated that they deemed that he lost control of the ball as he landed. They showed the replay again and he didn’t lose control.
 
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Honest question here...what was the deal with first half catch overturn by Marv where he clearly had a foot on the ground before landing on the sideline? Am I missing something?
Don't know, no one ever mentioned it. They never mentioned the foot being down. They never mentioned he didn't have possession at that point either. It's like people in a horror movie that do idiotic stuff so we can yell at the TV.
 
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