Game Thread tOSU at Indiana - Oct 13, 8 ET, BTN

[MililaniBuckeye]

I'm in Kona for the weekend and was cheering on 10+ friends who were competing in the Ironman World Championships yesterday, and thus had to track the score on-line. Let's just say I'm glad I was several islands away from my TV, lest I'd heading to the base exchange today to buy a new one. JFC, 49 points to fucking Indiana? Not only is that the most ever we've given up to them, it's a full TD and 2pt conversion more.

We'd better get this horse abortion of a defense straightened up pronto or Denard "Shovel shit in my mouth" Robinson is going to rip our hearts out.

 

[Steve19]

I don't know who has been pushing that meme but I don't think it's a prevalent as you believe. Historically, teams on probation aren't typically handed that honor.

Regardless, the "AP national champion" is nonsense these days. They chose to remove themselves from the championship process, which does exist no matter how imperfect. In the 21st century, their game of American Idol only means something to themselves, and some of the fans of the team they choose as winners. It's a joke now. I couldn't tout it as a "national championship" with a straight face it, anyway, especially without even playing a bowl game.

Saw two TV news stories to this effect last week, i.e. going for undefeated, possible AP NC, and a main story line on CNN main page. So, the players were hearing it.

I agree with you completely. Unless we win. :)

 

[jlb1705]

Saw two TV news stories to this effect last week, i.e. going for undefeated, possible AP NC, and a main story line on CNN main page. So, the players were hearing it.

I agree with you completely. Unless we win. :)

The Plain Dealer and the Toledo Blade were running stories about it or related to the idea too.

 

[stowfan]

Time for my weekly prediction.

From page 8 of this thread.

 

[buckeyebri]

Attitude had little to do with Indiana's success last night.

Fans are quick to cite "attitude, desire and effort" as reasons their teams don't perform at the desired level, and they're almost never the primary problems.

These all seem to be missing from this team. Whether this is a primary problem or not, it is definitely an issue. When you look at the dropped interceptions, the mental penalties, and a tram that doesn't fly to the ball to gang tackle, I say they lack attitude and desire. Certainly their effort was questionable.

 

[BuckeyeTillIDie]

Our defense is now the Rich Rod era scUM defense.

 

[buckeyebri]

They went to Bloomington in 1988 and gave up 41 to an IU team handing the ball off out of the I all day but I get your point.

This defense has more attitude/mental issues than aestheticism issues.

Thanks Jax! This was one of Mallory's best teams at IU was it not? I believe it included Anthony Thompson at RB and finished ranked.

 

[VBSJ]

I guess at least I got to hear Eric Collins on BTN say that Carlos Hyde was running onto the field late on at least two occasions...not noticing that Hyde was motioning into the backfield the entire game.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I don't know who has been pushing that meme but I don't think it's a prevalent as you believe. Historically, teams on probation aren't typically handed that honor.

Regardless, the "AP national champion" is nonsense these days. They chose to remove themselves from the championship process, which does exist no matter how imperfect. In the 21st century, their game of American Idol only means something to themselves, and some of the fans of the team they choose as winners. It's a joke now. I couldn't tout it as a "national championship" with a straight face it, anyway, especially without even playing a bowl game.

Plus, there's no way that they'll award it to Ohio State even in the event that we're the last undefeated standing: crappy conference strength, weak ooc schedule and no opportunity to prove anything against a strong bowl opponent. The only game that this team has looked solid in from both sides of the ball has been against a terrible Fredo (OH) team. We're only undefeated because we haven't played anyone worth a [Mark May].

 

[Muck]

I have never seen such a poorly officiated game in my life...Every call went Indiana's way.

Ohio State - Illinois 2007

The game was over before their last 2 TDs. We give up big plays, and today lots of points.....but there's the punt block, the terrible penalty calls, the ridiculous reviews. It wasn't that bad. It was bad.....just not that bad.

Amen.

 

[Bronsin]

Our defense is now the Rich Rod era scUM defense.

That's what the trolls on Rivals are saying...............

 

[bukIpower]

it's true though. It shouldn't be though because I still believe we have the best DL in the big ten with talent/experience/depth all being assets. We have two of the better corners as well and while the middle of the defense isn't that great it shouldn't negate what the other 6 players on defense bring to the table.

Mili- My exact thoughts last night as the game unfolded "better do something or Michigan is going to make our off season a longer one than it already is going to be"

I don't think michigan can stop our offense but I'm not confident at all that our defense can make more stops than them. Should be a very high scoring game.

 

[Mariotwins]

Our defense is now the Rich Rod era scUM defense.

As bad as it looks I won't be saying that till next season. Right now I'm just hoping the coaches focused too much on the O in the off-season and are having problems catching the D up.

 

[jlb1705]

I have to chime in with a few positives from last night's game.

Corey Brown - I've been somewhat outspoken this season about the short passes to him that weren't working and his seeming inability as a ball carrier to pick a lane and get north-south. I have to give him credit now, because in the last two games he has been much improved in those areas and has been a big part of the offense's ability to move the chains and keeping defenses honest up the middle by having to respect him has a threat on the edge.

Rod Smith - I was disappointed in his fumble because I want so bad for him become a star. He has come a long way in the last few weeks and I hope it doesn't stall his growth as a player. Hyde has been great and runs with attitude and deserves the bulk of the carries. Rod Smith runs with attitude too, but he also has a little extra something in terms of vision and lateral movement. He had a couple cutback runs last night that brought an extra dimension to the power run game that the Buckeyes haven't had since Beanie Wells. I hope the continue to get him carries. If the coaches have been able to resurrect his career to this extent, there shouldn't be any reason why they can't fix the fumbling too. Also, Smith looked great on kick returns. The same things that make him look like a special RB served him well on returns last night. Great vision, one cutback and then he gets north-south with authority. If they keep putting him back there on kickoffs he'll house one before the end of the season.

 

[MaxBuck]

Attitude had little to do with Indiana's success last night.

Fans are quick to cite "attitude, desire and effort" as reasons their teams don't perform at the desired level, and they're almost never the primary problems.

These all seem to be missing from this team. Whether this is a primary problem or not, it is definitely an issue. When you look at the dropped interceptions, the mental penalties, and a tram that doesn't fly to the ball to gang tackle, I say they lack attitude and desire. Certainly their effort was questionable.

I can definitely say that fans who are absolutely fukcing clueless about what goes on in a locker room or in athletes' heads have no goddamn right to claim that the athletes "lack desire." What an ignorant and arrogant comment.

I'm as disappointed by the Buckeyes' performance last night as anyone, but please, fans, get a clue -- if you think you can psychoanalyze Curtis Grant, Ryan Shazier or Christian Bryant by remote control, you're wrong. Even "effort" is pretty much impossible to gauge in most cases.

Yeah, I'm pissed off. As the parent of an athlete, I got a right.