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Gatorubet;1645369; said:
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Seems to match his professed interests - especially if he is going to help his folks with the Philippines Orphanage deal.

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And maybe we should reinvestigate his Son-of-God bona fides (channeling my inner diddy)... if he he really is credentialed by Heaven, why did he need to major in Young Life leadership? And even if he did need to major in Young Life leadership to be a Young Life leader, how in God's name did he only get a 3.6? I, for one, am calling bullshit on his divinity. [/quote]

Since we more-or-less agree on his career goals, gator, can we get back to discussing whether or not he is the Son of God? kthx
 
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Since Tebow is out of college, would it be possible to move this thread to the poli or philosophy board?

I ask because a lot of people are throwing around the assumption that Tebow is a really intelligent individual, but I need to know if he believes in a 5,000-year old Earth without dinosaurs before I comment on how bright I think he is.
 
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Gatorubet;1645328; said:
Ahhh.....too easy. :biggrin:



Whatever the fuck you did in school Jax, I guarantee that the time constraints on Tebow were crushing, from the interviews, to the team meetings, film study, starting his lifting at 4:30 or whenever the weight room opened, to the practices, games, bowls, Heismann nonsense, to the prison ministry and his going to church to just goofing around like a student. I would guess that you had it massively easy in your studies when you put your free study time next to a guy like Tebow.

You really, really undervalue the pressure and time demands of his career at Florida.

Any varsity athlete at any big school has time constraints but they also have the support staff waiting to help to make sure they stay eligible/do well in school. First choice of classes to avoid schedule conflicts, study table, tutors, academic success centers etc etc etc. Mix that level of support, the ease of a home ec major and the fact no professor on campus is looking to give the football star a bad grade (if there is they are well known and can be avoided) and I'm not impressed with any of them sporting the mid 3's GPA in leisure studies/home ec/kinesiology type degrees.

As for me all I had going on when I finished my MBA was a full time job, a wife and my kids so yeah it was a breeze. :wink2:
 
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Gatorubet;1645369; said:
[/list]Seems to match his professed interests - especially if he is going to help his folks with the Philippines Orphanage deal.

I agree with this. There are probably a lot of people (athletes and non-athletes alike) who have had less worthwhile majors for their interests and aspirations, and this is simply not a big deal. The guy did above-average work in a non-kinesiology major offered by a quality university. There's a lot to bag on Tebow about, but this is on the low end of the scale for sure. And besides, he's going to spend his immediate future pulling down six digits in football (even if all he becomes is a couple-year NFL backup), which has to be way above his major's expected starting income.
 
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BayBuck;1645586; said:
I agree with this. There are probably a lot of people (athletes and non-athletes alike) who have had less worthwhile majors for their interests and aspirations, and this is simply not a big deal. The guy did above-average work in a non-kinesiology major offered by a quality university. There's a lot to bag on Tebow about, but this is on the low end of the scale for sure. And besides, he's going to spend his immediate future pulling down six digits in football (even if all he becomes is a couple-year NFL backup), which has to be way above his major's expected starting income.

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I don't think Tebow should get any real grief for his major.

I also think the Campbell/Draddy Award should have gone to somebody else.

But I'm blaming those that sponsor that award, not Tebow. And I'm not just picking on Tebow. Another finalist I found to be non-deserving of the Campbell/Draddy was Colt McCoy, another finalist for the award, whose only course last semester was "Management of Sport, Health Promotion and Fitness", which completed his degree in Sports Management.

It seems that the Campbell Award folks are more interested in getting publicity by having a 'name' winner that in identifying the highest level of student/athlete. But at least they didn't try to give it to Matt Leinart when his only course was Ballroom Dancing in 2005. :tongue2:
 
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Dryden;1645425; said:
Since Tebow is out of college, would it be possible to move this thread to the poli or philosophy board?

I ask because a lot of people are throwing around the assumption that Tebow is a really intelligent individual, but I need to know if he believes in a 5,000-year old Earth without dinosaurs before I comment on how bright I think he is.

That's SIX thousand year old Earth. Dummy.
 
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wells;1645363; said:
Chances are he is smarter than a home-ec major, and could succeed in a more challenging degree. Given his time constraints, that was realistically the best he could achieve. Football was probably very limiting in both what he could select as a major, and the GPA he could post.

So how did Toby Gerhart do it? He managed to take a real major at a tougher school and play TWO varsity sports. I guess Superman really wears Toby Gerhart PJs - sewn by Tim Tebow.

wells;1645363; said:
There are very few individuals that can claim to have any type of undergrad experience nearly as demanding as what a student athlete does. Very few. It's a pathetic degree I agree, but the naivety towards the expectations placed on a student in a D1 sport at a major university is astonishing.

I call BS. There are students who spend that kind of time actually studying for a tougher major. There are students who spend all their time assisting in research. There are students who suck at football and don't get to go to college for free who have to work full-time or work two jobs even while going to school full-time. And many students do those things with out the special treatment and accomodations afforded to student-athletes.
 
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jlb1705;1645607; said:
So how did Toby Gerhart do it? He managed to take a real major at a tougher school and play TWO varsity sports. I guess Superman really wears Toby Gerhart PJs - sewn by Tim Tebow.



I call BS. There are students who spend that kind of time actually studying for a tougher major. There are students who spend all their time assisting in research. There are students who suck at football and don't get to go to college for free who have to work full-time or work two jobs even while going to school full-time. And many students do those things with out the special treatment and accomodations afforded to student-athletes.

Agree, I am not going to toot my horn but I encountered too many classes on more difficult subjects at a more difficult school (without the status of Tim Tebow) that required minimal to moderate effort for an A. If one actually had to attend these classes (as Tebow likely did) it makes it even easier.
 
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BB73;1645596; said:
I don't think Tebow should get any real grief for his major.

I also think the Campbell/Draddy Award should have gone to somebody else.

I tend to agree with both of those statements. It's just when they combine, one finds another example of the relentless media obsession with deifying the chosen one, and many can't help but get a little bile building up in the back of their throats in response. Had Tebow received his home ec degree and quietly moved on with his life, I wouldn't have even noticed what his major was. It's when I had his "honor student" status shoved down my throat every broadcast, when he was given the Draddy, when he was presented as Mike Lanese, Craig Krenzel and Anthony Gonzalas all rolled into one that I said enough with this ridiculous charade.

As for the time constraints on young Mr. Tebow, I don't deny they were present. OTOH, I don't think they were any worse (or even at the level) of a lower income, first generation college student who has to work his way through a quality university...while taking a more rigorous major, without the benefit of a legion of tutors and academic support staff to ensure everything goes as smoothly as possible and without the security of knowing that worst case scenario some rich alumni will line up to offer him jobs even if he doesn't graduate. That's the kind of kid who has pressure to get through college, not Mr. Tebow.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1645618; said:
That's the kind of kid who has pressure to get through college, not Mr. Tebow.


I agree with everything you said but I do question this part.

It being a given Tebow is the son of God, what if his dad is the old testament God as we know him? You come home with a 3.6 in Home Ec to that guy and you might end up with a stick jammed in your eye or turned to stone or some such crazy shit.

There is a certain amount of pressure there.
 
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buckeyesin07;1645614; said:
I'll take Troy, considering he's already done it. You might do a little research next time before you try to take a dig at an OSU player.


Ahh! Color me surprised and I appreciate the correction!

Well then a vBet as to which one secures the next starting win!
 
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