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ORD_Buckeye said:
Been there; done that.

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Yep. And he got them to a few bowls and would probably win 6-7 games a year. That's who they should strive to be. There has never been a better match between program and coach than Illinois and The Zooker.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Let's list the 10-win seasons in Illinois football history:

1902
1983
1989
2001

That's it. Four fucking 10-win seasons in 125 seasons...once every 31 years.
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To be fair, in the 60-year period between 1905 and 1964, Illinois played ten games only six times (1942, 1943, 1944, 1946, 1951, 1963); they played nine games (or less) during the other 54 seasons. It's pretty tough to win ten games when you're only playing nine.

That being said, Illinois has underperformed more than any other Power5 team. With their recruiting base, Illinois should be similar to Wisconsin: a consistent top-25 team that occasionally has a top-10 finish.
 
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NFBuck said:
People have been saying that forever, and outside of a small window of quasi-relevency in the early nineties, and a couple of fluke seasons in 2001 & 2007, they've always been a dog[Mark May] program, and always will be.

Their best course of action would probably be to go the juggalo route and hire some semi-successful retread that's just been canned and is looking for another chance.
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I don't disagree with what you are saying for the most part. I can't remember their former coaches outside of Zook and Ron Turner(?). Zook could recruit but couldn't coach. It seems like they've never had anything resembling a great coach.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
That being said, Illinois has underperformed more than any other Power5 team. With their recruiting base, Illinois should be similar to Wisconsin: a consistent top-25 team that occasionally has a top-10 finish.
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Absolutely correct.

Go back and look at the roster of some of ththose 80's era Miami teams.

Everyone thinks its all Miami area kids, a huge amount were Chicago kids.

Ton of talent in that state
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Absolutely correct.

Go back and look at the roster of some of ththose 80's era Miami teams.

Everyone thinks its all Miami area kids, a huge amount were Chicago kids.

Ton of talent in that state
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None of which want to go play for the state's "flagship" school. Illinois has no pull for kids. They aren't a blip on the national radar. What top prospect would possibly want to go play for the lame illini when they can go to ND, or tOSU, or scUM, or Wiscy, or any number of SEC schools?

Zook looked like he might have them on the right track, recruiting-wise, for a micro-second, but the inertia of suck that surrounds illinois football swallowed him back up. I don't see how anybody can turn that program around. Even if they luck into some hot young coach, some bigger, better program will come sweep him up and they'll have to start all over again.

They've had one coach in my lifetime, John Mackovic, that went on to have some success after coaching in Champaign, and even he wasn't that great at Texas.
 
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And of course who (especially our Raider fans) can forget Mike White...who went 9-0 in conference play in 1983 only to get apefucked in the Rose Bowl and watch his career go down the toilet.
 
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