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Tim Beck (HC Coastal Carolina)

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Oldie but a goodie from Doug Lesmerises from the beginning of this lost year.

Consider what Urban Meyer said in his first news conference of spring football in March when asked about Barrett.

"We changed all the drills in the quarterback room," Meyer said.

The idea was to get more quick-twitch activity focused on getting the ball out quickly and moving the offense with a more up-tempo feel in 2016, Meyer said. But let's imagine that if the quarterbacks coach got it right last year, you wouldn't have to change all his drills this year.

Last year wasn't right. Clearly. It's just Beck only admitted it now. Much of that is what happens with a new coach in a new place, and Beck had spent the previous seven years at Nebraska.

"You're at one place for so long and you do it for so long a certain way, when you change and come here, anything is going to be different," Beck said this spring. "And in every area of the program, it's different than the area where I came from. The other programs I came from, it's just different, in every element."

Quick note:

Beck and running backs coach Tony Alford were the two new assistants in 2015 when the Buckeyes were the unanimous preseason No. 1 team with a potentially record-setting amount of NFL talent and played down to the competition for 10 weeks then lost the one game they couldn't lose.

In 2014, secondary coach Chris Ash and defensive line coach Larry Johnson were the two new coaches. Ohio State won the National Championship, thanks in large part to a defensive revamp led by Ash.

In his first year.

Read this part again from the first Beck quote: "Last year it was like, 'What's that?'"

Seriously?

"That" was the most interesting, complicated, yet talent-laden quarterback situation in modern college football history. That was a quarterback question with two right answers and yet the Buckeyes still managed to get it wrong.

That was a failure by the man in charge of the quarterback room, as both Barrett and Jones regressed in 2015. Forget about the issues with the play calling, and Beck played a major role in that problem. As a quarterbacks coach, his quarterbacks didn't play as well as they had the year before.

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During last season, I asked Meyer if the quarterback coaching was good enough. It was hard to ask the same question to Beck since he went a long stretch without talking to reporters.

Meyer danced around it, said everything effects the play of the quarterbacks, and said, "I don't see that as an issue."

This spring, Meyer was asked again about Beck and the quarterback coaching last season. His answer:

"Just OK. He took over for a very valuable guy. I expect more out of him."
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http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2016/04/in_evaluating_cardale_jones_do.html

In looking back at last year and the fact that we only lost one game by 3 and we looked good again in the following 2 games, I can understand why Beck was given a little more rope. It's always hard to fire someone after 1 year. But Urban clearly didn't get "more out of him" this year as he expected, so now's the time.

I work in a sector with a lot of first time executives, and the advice they're always given is "no one likes firing someone. By the time you've gotten to where you're contemplating firing someone, the rest of the people that work with them are wondering why you haven't done it already and are tired of picking up the slack for that person. Every day you put off firing that person, you lose credibility with those who remain." We've seen that in the visible frustration on the field (JT furious at the delay in getting plays to him at the end of regulation in the Michigan game and other instances) and in players' comments to the media.

I'm excited to see Urban quickly resolve this credibility crisis and get someone great to coach up JT and get him ready for the draft next year.
 
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I for one don't believe the talent level is that different. The fact is both schools recruited many of the same guys. We lost on some, notably Watson, the most important position on the field, but we won on more.

But I believe if we switched QBs JT would have looked like a rock star and Watson in that POS Beck called an offensive would have looked like he needed help tying his own shoes too.

Either way, THERE IS NO FUCKING way the talent level was 31-0 different. Four teams put up 30+ on that D and we couldn't even reach the red zone when handed the ball on their side of the 50.

It was embarrassing.
 
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The understanding fans patiently await any news. And can we get an update on Barksdale at the same time, please?

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Honestly, I don't see Meyer making any official moves with Beck until after NSD. Unless Beck is willing to be demoted to just an 'Asst HC' or a primarily recruiting focused position.

Beck's a nice enough guy, and I feel bad for him on some level, but OSU should have won the title last year and they should have competed for one this year. That's 2 potential titles wasted on his watch - absolutely unacceptable.
 
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AuTX Buckeye said:
If Beck is gone it will be before NSD .... they will not have another Drayton incident. If it does happen it will happen before the end of the dead period with hopefully a replacement lined up.
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curious who (or maybe if) ufm goes to for advice on these things. someone currently on staff (ie schiano) or someone outside the organization (bruce, holtz). cause doesn't he have to be thinking he is missing some dynamic here?
 
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CottageAveBuckeye said:
curious who (or maybe if) ufm goes to for advice on these things. someone currently on staff (ie schiano) or someone outside the organization (bruce, holtz). cause doesn't he have to be thinking he is missing some dynamic here?
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Well... the look of firing or a coach leaving after NSD has already happened and he had to do some massive PR and damage control. I don't think he wants that again. My guess he wouldn't go to any of those guys because they've been out of recruiting for so long. Urban is a big boy paid big money to make those decision. He knows the outcomes. One thing he can't do is if Warriner and Beck are gone is come out of the dead period with no QBs Coach or OC... that can't happen.
 
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CottageAveBuckeye said:
a little confused about the linkage between 'righting the ship' and NSD. is recruiting impact a critical element when considering staff changes?
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Beck was a key guy on some of the more major recruits. If you remember Weber was extremely hurt when Drayton bolted the day after NSD to join the Chicago Bears... Now leaving to the NFL is one thing and the optics were horrible but firing or guy going to another CFB team would be worse. Basically if Urban is going to replace it would need to be soon... If we make it to signing day with no changes I'm not sure whats going to happen.
 
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knuckifyoubuck said:
Kiffin out at 'Bama before Beck out at Ohio State. Would be funny if it wasn't just sad.
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Kiffin has been "out" since he accepted a HC at FAU... completely different scenario... Also Sark was hired because Saban was pushing Kiffin out... who on the QC staff is Beck getting pushed out for?
 
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