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Tim Beck (HC Coastal Carolina)

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The Game was a bit less disjointed but many of those playcalls were the same from earlier in the year. The difference is OSU played angry and inspired for the entire game for the first time and Michigan was a sieve against the run before OSU arrived. Go watch Indiana if you were fooled by stat rankings.

That said if the line and perimeter were blocking at an adequate level this year, OSU would have cruised to a 2 seed. They need to fix the passing weaknesses but the execution and consistency were bigger problems than playcalls.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
There wasn't a worse problem than playcalls against Michigan State. Other games where we under-performed, sure. You can't tell me watching them walk 9 people into the box with the terrible secondary they had was the right time to call QB run for the 8th time in a row.
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Fear was the problem against sparty. They assumed defeat and that they could not protect ever. The best playcalls in the world can't overcome cowardice and playing with fear as the foundation.

Pop passes are the perfect playcall for Miller or Samuel or Marshall, but when your perimeter gets smoked most of the year, you can't call it.

same with screens.

Intermediate and deep routes are a great way to make the defense pay. When your qb is getting pressured early in most passing play, you're going to fail.
 
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jwinslow said:
Fear was the problem against sparty. They assumed defeat and that they could not protect ever. The best playcalls in the world can't overcome cowardice and playing with fear as the foundation.

Pop passes are the perfect playcall for Miller or Samuel or Marshall, but when your perimeter gets smoked most of the year, you can't call it.

same with screens.

Intermediate and deep routes are a great way to make the defense pay. When your qb is getting pressured early in most passing play, you're going to fail.
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Well if we're going to get deep into the psyche....sure. But fear caused shitty play calls. It wasn't passing weakness or execution or consistency against MSU. It was shitty playcalling.
 
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jwinslow said:
Fear was the problem against sparty. They assumed defeat and that they could not protect ever. The best playcalls in the world can't overcome cowardice and playing with fear as the foundation.

Pop passes are the perfect playcall for Miller or Samuel or Marshall, but when your perimeter gets smoked most of the year, you can't call it.

same with screens.

Intermediate and deep routes are a great way to make the defense pay. When your qb is getting pressured early in most passing play, you're going to fail.
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Glad you mentioned this. What I heard after the game was "they crowded the LOS" and then from another guy "they crowded the throwing lanes". In other words they played defense so we eliminated both running and passing plays. We conceded to them what they were trying to take away (which apparently from the interviews afterwards was everything) instead of making adjustments to open things up.

Simple example.... it was said they were crowding the line and our response was to motion everyone out of the backfield and run QB draws. First you must be successful at throwing the ball before they bite on play action and second you can't sustain that all game anyways.

Solution I didn't see attempted was go to four wide outs (maybe put two tight ends as WRs) and after spreading them run read option with Zeke or power with zeke. To take it further MSU was slanting a ton so as Zeke pointed out when they went to gap blocking assignments it helped so along with what I just mentioned we also incorporate gap blocking.

Spread them out, change the blocking scheme, and then hit them with play action after a few 10 yard runs. In that game motioning the tight end into the backfield brought heavy blitzes/crowding the LOS so I would've stopped doing that too.

Look when you rely on running the ball to set up the throw game you have to find a way either by your set or personnel to do that. Just because they crowd the LOS doesn't mean we can run the ball from different offensive sets
 
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I have suggested that the play calling makes the Oline look bad. When you have defenses that have a very good idea where the ball is going pre-snap like pretty much everyone in attendance does as well, it makes it hard on the OLine. When you have no deception at all, not keeping the defense honest or off balance at all, it makes the Oline look bad. When you have 8 in the box, and try to run the ball with the QB, it makes the OLine look bad. When you pretty much only pass on 3rd and long, and the DE can pin his ears back, it makes the OLine look bad.

To me, the Oline is fine, it is the play calling that makes them look like they cannot execute.
 
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bukIpower said:
Glad you mentioned this. What I heard after the game was "they crowded the LOS" and then from another guy "they crowded the throwing lanes". In other words they played defense so we eliminated both running and passing plays. We conceded to them what they were trying to take away (which apparently from the interviews afterwards was everything) instead of making adjustments to open things up.

Solution I didn't see attempted was go to four wide outs (maybe put two tight ends as WRs) and after spreading them run read option with Zeke or power with zeke. To take it further MSU was slanting a ton so as Zeke pointed out when they went to gap blocking assignments it helped so along with what I just mentioned we also incorporate gap blocking.

Spread them out, change the blocking scheme, and then hit them with play action after a few 10 yard runs. In that game motioning the tight end into the backfield brought heavy blitzes/crowding the LOS so I would've stopped doing that too.

Look when you rely on running the ball to set up the throw game you have to find a way either by your set or personnel to do that. Just because they crowd the LOS doesn't mean we can run the ball from different offensive sets
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This I was screaming at the end of the first half to stop motioning the tight end into the backfield when it was an empty set and running the QB draw. As soon as that tight end went into motion everyone knew what was coming after the 2nd or 3rd time they did it in the game. Sadly they just kept doing it over and over and over again. Not only that if the coaching staff thought Zeke wasn't 100% then we should have moved Samuel in the backfield with JT. It's not like they were throwing it anyways and then at least there is another threat they have to account for.
 
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It's because it worked exceptionally well last year and we were banking on it again this year.

Sometimes against elite teams we just seem a little behind in making adjustments. That MSU game the exception because we attempted no adjustments
 
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jwinslow said:
Fear was the problem against sparty. They assumed defeat and that they could not protect ever. The best playcalls in the world can't overcome cowardice and playing with fear as the foundation.

Pop passes are the perfect playcall for Miller or Samuel or Marshall, but when your perimeter gets smoked most of the year, you can't call it.

same with screens.

Intermediate and deep routes are a great way to make the defense pay. When your qb is getting pressured early in most passing play, you're going to fail.
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I wonder if the players realized the coaches fear and it became self fulfilling. If you can't have confidence in this team the what team can you have confidence in?
 
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