In that scenario I could see tOSU staying at 4 and TAMU jumping to 3. That would avoid an initial rematch with Bama.
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I think Ohio State is pretty much assured to be #3 if they win.
Bama 1
Clemson/ND winner 2
Ohio State 3
? 4
No way they keep Clemson and ND together and have a 3rd game in the semi finals.
Bama 1
Clemson/ND winner 2
Ohio State 3
? 4
No way they keep Clemson and ND together and have a 3rd game in the semi finals.
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OregonBuckeye
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Not sure why Dan Mullen is bitching. Even if they play more games it obviously doesn't matter if they lose because SEC
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Yep.
If northwestern beat us we would be lucky to be 10th. Florida is pretty much assured to stay even if Bama destroys them.
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I think they have Iowa State positioned for #4 should they beat #10 Oklahoma in their CCG.
I wouldn't put anything past them but A&M at #3 seems a bit of a stretch.
ND hanging that 2nd loss on Clemson would be some funny shit though. The collective vaginal clench from the media would be strong enough to turn coal into diamonds overnight. Hell, Herbie alone would spit out a 1/4 carat.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Predictably, the College Football Playoff rankings caused an uproar yet again on Tuesday night.
If you’re an Ohio State fan, though, they’re just not worth worrying about this week.
As long as Ohio State beats Northwestern in Saturday’s Big Ten Championship Game, the Buckeyes shouldn't in any danger of being left out of the College Football Playoff field on Sunday.
Most of the outrage surrounding Tuesday night’s rankings came after Florida dropped just one spot to No. 7 despite suffering its second loss of the season against unranked LSU, leaving the door open to the possibility that the Gators could still get into the CFP if they upset No. 1 Alabama in this weekend’s SEC Championship Game.
But if you’re worrying that a two-loss Florida could keep an undefeated Big Ten champion Ohio State out of the CFP, you’re almost certainly losing sleep over nothing.
If the CFP selection committee was going to punish Ohio State for not playing enough games this season, it presumably would have already done so by now. The Buckeyes have been a constant at the No. 4 spot in every edition of this year’s playoff rankings, even though they’ve had two games canceled since then, and they have a real opportunity to bolster their résumé this weekend by beating No. 14 Northwestern and winning a conference title.
Assuming Ohio State beats Northwestern on Saturday – because if it loses, it won’t be in the CFP and none of this will matter – the Buckeyes are more likely to move up the rankings, with No. 2 Notre Dame and No. 3 Clemson playing each other again in the ACC Championship Game, than down.
If Alabama, Clemson and Ohio State all win on Saturday as they’re favored to do, the CFP field seems likely to consist of No. 1 Alabama facing No. 4 Notre Dame in one semifinal and No. 2 Clemson facing No. 3 Ohio State in the other semifinal. If Notre Dame beats Clemson, that would only increase Ohio State’s likelihood of being the No. 3 seed behind the Crimson Tide and Fighting Irish, though it’s uncertain who would be No. 4 and possible the undefeated Fighting Irish could move up to No. 1.
In a year where everything has changed because of COVID-19, it’s dangerous to assume that precedents will hold true in this year’s CFP. While no undefeated Power 5 conference champion has ever missed the CFP, that’s almost certainly going to happen if USC wins the Pac-12 Championship Game on Friday, as the Trojans are just 13th in the penultimate CFP rankings.
That doesn’t mean being an undefeated conference champion won’t be reason enough for the Buckeyes to lock up their spot, though, because it’s clear the CFP selection committee views Ohio State as being a much better team than USC, even though both have 5-0 records.
“The question has been asked, ‘They both have 5-0 records, how can they be apart in the rankings?’” CFP selection committee chairman Gary Barta said Tuesday night. “And it’s because we’ve watched the games, we’ve watched how each team plays and has controlled the games. There is (Ohio State’s) win over Indiana also, a (11th-)ranked team.”
Surely, a win over No. 1 Alabama and a conference championship would help Florida’s résumé, but a win over Northwestern and a conference championship will help Ohio State’s résumé, too. And even though Barta rarely provides any answers to questions that can be considered concrete, ultimately leaving the committee wiggle room to do whatever it wants, even his vague answers have suggested that the Buckeyes have plenty of cushion over every team behind them.
When asked on Tuesday if there was discussion this week about No. 4 Ohio State vs. No. 5 Texas A&M, Barta said there was “really not a lot of discussion of moving anybody” in the top five. Given that Texas A&M’s final game before CFP selection is against a 3-6 Tennessee team without a conference championship on the line, there’s no reason to view the Aggies as a threat to jump Ohio State if both teams win this weekend.
As for the teams outside the top five, Barta said “there was not really any discussion” about No. 5 Texas A&M vs. No. 6 Iowa State, either.
That was in part because none of Ohio State, Texas A&M and Iowa State played this past weekend, so there wasn’t any new data for the committee to evaluate with those teams. But if the selection committee is going to put No. 6 Iowa State or No. 7 Florida into the playoff, it’s going to have to break another precedent: Putting a two-loss team in the CFP for the first time.
If the Buckeyes win on Saturday against Northwestern, they are a virtual lock to move up to at least the No. 3 seed as an undefeated conference champion that has consistently aced the eye test with the voters. If somehow Ohio State gets upset in Indianapolis, there’s no case to include them in the field at all.
If you’re an Ohio State fan, though, they’re just not worth worrying about this week.
As long as Ohio State beats Northwestern in Saturday’s Big Ten Championship Game, the Buckeyes shouldn't in any danger of being left out of the College Football Playoff field on Sunday.
Most of the outrage surrounding Tuesday night’s rankings came after Florida dropped just one spot to No. 7 despite suffering its second loss of the season against unranked LSU, leaving the door open to the possibility that the Gators could still get into the CFP if they upset No. 1 Alabama in this weekend’s SEC Championship Game.
But if you’re worrying that a two-loss Florida could keep an undefeated Big Ten champion Ohio State out of the CFP, you’re almost certainly losing sleep over nothing.
If the CFP selection committee was going to punish Ohio State for not playing enough games this season, it presumably would have already done so by now. The Buckeyes have been a constant at the No. 4 spot in every edition of this year’s playoff rankings, even though they’ve had two games canceled since then, and they have a real opportunity to bolster their résumé this weekend by beating No. 14 Northwestern and winning a conference title.
Assuming Ohio State beats Northwestern on Saturday – because if it loses, it won’t be in the CFP and none of this will matter – the Buckeyes are more likely to move up the rankings, with No. 2 Notre Dame and No. 3 Clemson playing each other again in the ACC Championship Game, than down.
If Alabama, Clemson and Ohio State all win on Saturday as they’re favored to do, the CFP field seems likely to consist of No. 1 Alabama facing No. 4 Notre Dame in one semifinal and No. 2 Clemson facing No. 3 Ohio State in the other semifinal. If Notre Dame beats Clemson, that would only increase Ohio State’s likelihood of being the No. 3 seed behind the Crimson Tide and Fighting Irish, though it’s uncertain who would be No. 4 and possible the undefeated Fighting Irish could move up to No. 1.
In a year where everything has changed because of COVID-19, it’s dangerous to assume that precedents will hold true in this year’s CFP. While no undefeated Power 5 conference champion has ever missed the CFP, that’s almost certainly going to happen if USC wins the Pac-12 Championship Game on Friday, as the Trojans are just 13th in the penultimate CFP rankings.
That doesn’t mean being an undefeated conference champion won’t be reason enough for the Buckeyes to lock up their spot, though, because it’s clear the CFP selection committee views Ohio State as being a much better team than USC, even though both have 5-0 records.
“The question has been asked, ‘They both have 5-0 records, how can they be apart in the rankings?’” CFP selection committee chairman Gary Barta said Tuesday night. “And it’s because we’ve watched the games, we’ve watched how each team plays and has controlled the games. There is (Ohio State’s) win over Indiana also, a (11th-)ranked team.”
Surely, a win over No. 1 Alabama and a conference championship would help Florida’s résumé, but a win over Northwestern and a conference championship will help Ohio State’s résumé, too. And even though Barta rarely provides any answers to questions that can be considered concrete, ultimately leaving the committee wiggle room to do whatever it wants, even his vague answers have suggested that the Buckeyes have plenty of cushion over every team behind them.
When asked on Tuesday if there was discussion this week about No. 4 Ohio State vs. No. 5 Texas A&M, Barta said there was “really not a lot of discussion of moving anybody” in the top five. Given that Texas A&M’s final game before CFP selection is against a 3-6 Tennessee team without a conference championship on the line, there’s no reason to view the Aggies as a threat to jump Ohio State if both teams win this weekend.
As for the teams outside the top five, Barta said “there was not really any discussion” about No. 5 Texas A&M vs. No. 6 Iowa State, either.
That was in part because none of Ohio State, Texas A&M and Iowa State played this past weekend, so there wasn’t any new data for the committee to evaluate with those teams. But if the selection committee is going to put No. 6 Iowa State or No. 7 Florida into the playoff, it’s going to have to break another precedent: Putting a two-loss team in the CFP for the first time.
If the Buckeyes win on Saturday against Northwestern, they are a virtual lock to move up to at least the No. 3 seed as an undefeated conference champion that has consistently aced the eye test with the voters. If somehow Ohio State gets upset in Indianapolis, there’s no case to include them in the field at all.
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LSU is pretty good at football. They won it all last year, you know. Hard to drop too far losing to them.
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buckeyeintn
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You're pretty good (like LSU is at football) at using that sarcasm font.
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