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It's amazing how the last 2.5 games have completely erased the worst 4.5 game stretch that I can remember. The Bucks were miserable in the NW game, uninspired in the Wisky game, and outclassed in the Iowa game. Ignoring Troy Smith's magic-act scramble, the Bucks couldn't buy a redzone TD against Purdue. Does anyone here remember those games? I know, I know, we didn't have TG2 and Gonzo entrenched into the offense, and our o-line wasn't playing like a unit yet, and the coaches were still feeling out the right gameplan, and yadda yadda yadda. Come on. There's a very fitting word that I use for losing to Northwestern....UNACCEPTABLE. As an OSU fan, losing 4 out of 5 games SHOULD be unacceptable. NC's and beating scUM makes it less painful, but 1-4 stretches better be the exception, not the rule. I hate to break it to you all, but last year's team was not a good team (by OSU's standards), however, they put together a fantastic finish to a below-average year.

All of a sudden we have a better shot than anyone (but USC) at the Rose Bowl? I don't think so.

However, do we have a realistic shot? Hell ya!!! I think this will be a VERY good team, and I truly believe that the 1-4 stretch was a fluke. I just think we're getting a little ahead of ourselves. A year ago there were tons of posts about how '04 feels just like '02. Remember?
 
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I don't know if anyone else reads the college football message boards over at ESPN, but by the way other fans talk about the Buckeyes, you would think that tOSU's whole organization is composed of the most awful people on the planet.
 
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YERTLE - That was one fine post!

Steve - Yep and that is just like you guys saying OSU is going to win the NC next year. I can face reality and know ND was not that good last year (for 10 years actually) but some of you guys act like Michigan and Oklahoma State were powerhouses or something...
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
YERTLE - That was one fine post!

Steve - Yep and that is just like you guys saying OSU is going to win the NC next year. I can face reality and know ND was not that good last year (for 10 years actually) but some of you guys act like Michigan and Oklahoma State were powerhouses or something...

Let's not forget that TSUN did go to a BCS Bowl a few times recently, that TSUN and tOSU have won NCs rather recently and Oklahoma State was a top 25 team and still ended up ranked 26 after the shellacking OSU gave them, if you look at the weighted and averaged computer ratings over at Massey. tOSU by the way ended up ranked #20 despite the mid-season disaster.

I think the enthusiasm here is because most of us believe that tOSU could have opened a cannowhoopass on just about anyone at year-end, despite being in the midst of one of the most undeserved and disgusting media onslaughts in history.

You seem to be in quite a mood to argue your opinion, but we are all just discussing opinions, so let's just agree that time will tell and good luck to ND this year. We have a visiting member of faculty every year from ND who leaves me things like ND caps, pens and etc. We have lively discussions about football and we're going to enjoy discussing Ohio State's run at the national championship this year. He'll be home just in time to watch us win it.
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
...that is just like you guys saying OSU is going to win the NC next year. I can face reality and know ND was not that good last year (for 10 years actually) but some of you guys act like Michigan and Oklahoma State were powerhouses or something...

No one here is saying we will win the national championship, or even play for it. But keep in mind how strong OSU finished against two good teams. Michigan was #7 when we played them with a record of 9-1, so I'd say that would make them a powerhouse. Besides, you may have also beaten Michigan at home last season, but the two games weren't even comparable...we pretty much dominated Michigan, especially after spotting them their two early TDs (how many teams outscore Michigan 30-7 over two and a half quarters?), whereas Michigan was leading ND 12-7 after three quarters. As for Oklahoma State, they may not have fit the traditional definition of the word "powerhouse", but they still were a pretty decent team at 7-4 going into the bowl, and anytime you throttle a team like that 33-7, it's an impressive win. While we were pounding one other OSU, the third of the OSU trio was handing Notre Dame its ass in the Insight Bowl, and the Beavers went into the game with a 6-5 record.
 
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From what I saw from OSU during the Michigan game was a QB that while not even starting for part of the year had simply the game of his life! Smith will be hard pressed to ever play a game like that again, heck it is not for sure that he will even start next year little- lone play like that again. Many of you seem to forget the offensive struggles that exisited thru most of the year. Saying that Ginn, Holmes would give anyone alot of optomism.

As for Okie State, IMO Tressell did a great job of coaching against a team that was not all that impressive. IMO!

Now to a NC, HMMMMM! I (as most would ) would assume that if OSU were to play in the NC game it would be against USC. Although being an ND fan I would hope that ND would knock them off but heavy drinking would be the only way I would say that was going to happen LOL! That would be a game that could have more hype than your NC game a few years ago. USC,OHIO STATE, Rose Bowl playing for the NC with 3 of the best players in the country! Can you imagine the excitement when either team kicked off or punted? WOW! OSU would have to outscore USC in order to win that game and with Leinert back and the lack of offense OSU showed me last year I just don't see that happening. Nothing new here but finding a running game will dictate OSU's success this year.

As a poster that has been around here a while now it would be cool to see your team win another title, as the emotion many of you shared on this board after the Miami game was fun to see. The best part on any title game for me is watching the celebration afterwards and I will never forget the outcrying of joy that you all had after that game. Football is a passionate game and you guys sure have that for OSU!

GO ND! LOL!
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
OSU would have to outscore USC in order to win that game and with Leinert back and the lack of offense OSU showed me last year I just don't see that happening.
Hmmm why does that sound like deja vu...

Those who do not learn from their mistakes are bound to repeat them...
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
OSU would have to outscore USC in order to win that game and with Leinert back and the lack of offense OSU showed me last year I just don't see that happening. Nothing new here but finding a running game will dictate OSU's success this year.
I disagree. I think the play of the defense is what will dictate the success of the Buckeyes in the upcoming season and I would put that defense up against anybody in the nation with no worries.

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Hmmm why does that sound like deja vu...

Those who do not learn from their mistakes are bound to repeat them...
I agree. Sounds exactly like what people were saying about Miami in 02. "No way OSU can outscore Miami. No way can OSU get to Dorsey. No way OSU can stop McGahee." Guess what......
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
Nobody is laughing at OSU? What planet do you live on?

ND had trouble against passing teams which is very evident in there losses and did well against running teams ala Mich. and Tenn. I would have rather lost to BYU than NW ......


By the way, did ND have a football team last season? Haven't heard anything about them in a while. I guess that is the price you pay for mediocrity.
 
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Maybe the time you saw lack of offense was different than the Michigan & Ok St. games. How do you say OSU lacks offensive production towards the seasons ending when we began averaging 31 ppg? Once we put in Troy Smith, started Ginn & Gonzo in our WR lineup and switched to a "spread opiton" playbook our whole outlook changed. I cant believe im hearin any critical thinking from a fan of Notre Dame. The same ND fan that says he would rather lose to a 5-6 BYU team that didnt get a bowl invite rather than lose in OT to a team that hasnt beat us in over 33 years (that DID go to a bowl this year). Maybe you should be more concerned about ND's offense that just managed to match 289points to their opponents 289pts. OSUs "sorry" offense put up a +71pt difference to their opponents (if you dont know how good that was - Iowa only came away with +81pts).
 
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