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The Many Troubles of Marcus Vick (merged)

Blah. I hate seeing people screw up to this extent. Hope he gets his act together soon because the next step is a doozy... not that some of his previous acts weren't doozies.

Kudos to VT... ton of my friends went there for engineering, and the school had a pretty good reputation. I don't recall football being much of a big deal there, but I am not sure I would have noticed if it were...
 
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls05/news/story?id=2282642

RICHMOND, Va. -- Virginia Tech quarterback Marcus Vick told The Virginan-Pilot that he would enter the NFL Draft on Friday, hours after he was dismissed from the team as a result of numerous legal transgressions and his unsportsmanlike conduct in the Toyota Gator Bowl.
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Marcus Vick, eluding a Louisville defender in the Gator Bowl, stepped on the leg of another Cardinal player who tackled him in the first half.




University president Charles Steger announced the dismissal on the same day that coach Frank Beamer met with Vick and his mother in their Hampton Roads home, the school said in a statement. Beamer informed them of the decision during the meeting.
Friday night, Marcus Vick told The Virginian-Pilot that he would turn professional. "It's not a big deal. I'll just move on to the next level, baby" he said at a Virginia Beach restaurant, the newspaper reported Friday night on its Web site. Asked if that meant he would enter the NFL draft, he said, "Yeah, definitely."
Vick, the younger brother of Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, was suspended from school in 2004 for several legal problems. The junior came under new and intense scrutiny this week after replays showed he stomped on the left calf of Louisville All-American defensive end Elvis Dumervil during the Jan. 2 bowl.
No penalty was called on the play and Vick claimed its was accidental. He further hurt his cause by claiming to have apologized to Dumervil, the NCAA sacks leader, but the Louisville player said no such apology was ever offered.<!---------------------INLINE TABLE (BEGIN)---------------------> <TABLE id=inlinetable cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=200 align=right border=0><TBODY><TR><TH style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000"><CENTER>Marcus Vick Timeline</CENTER></TH><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=184>Sept. 2, 2003: Suspended for one game by coach Frank Beamer for undisclosed reason.
Feb. 17, 2004: Arrested without incident and charged with four misdemeanors -- three for allegedly allowing underage girls to have alcohol and one for allegedly having sex with a 15-year-old at a January party. Released on $2,500 bond.
May 14, 2004: Convicted of three counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor and sentenced to 30 days in jail and fined $2,250. Found not guilty of having sex with the 15-year-old.
July 3, 2004: Charged with reckless driving and possession of marijuana after a traffic stop about 25 miles east of Richmond, Va. at 2:30 a.m. Police said he was clocked at 86 mph, 21 mph above the speed limit, and that the vehicle smelled of marijuana.
July 6, 2004: Indefinitely suspended from football team for off-field problems.
Aug. 3, 2004: Suspended from the university for the 2004 season on same day he pleads guilty to reckless driving and no contest to marijuana possession in New Kent, Va. Is fined $300, has driver's license suspended for 60 days and is placed in a first offender program on the marijuana charge, requiring that he perform 24 hours of community service, undergo drug counseling and random drug tests, and give up his driver's license for six months.
Sept. 13, 2004: In plea deal, pleads no contest to one misdemeanor count of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Receives 30-day suspended jail sentence, is fined $100, ordered to perform 24 hours of community service and stay away from the teenage girls.
Jan. 17, 2005: Cleared to rejoin football team and re-enroll at Virginia Tech.
Oct. 1, 2005: Leads No. 3 Hokies to 34-20 victory at West Virginia, and makes obscene gesture to fans who have been calling him names related to past problems throughout the game. He apologized a day later.
Dec. 17, 2005: Pulled over by police in Hampton, Va. for driving 38 mph in a 25 mph zone and driving with a suspended license.
Jan. 2, 2006: Leads Virginia Tech to a 35-24 win over Louisville in Gator Bowl. In the game, he stomped on the left calf of Cardinals All-American defensive end Elvis Dumervil, the NCAA sacks leader. Claims the incident was accidental and that he apologized to Dumervil, who denies ever receiving apology.
Jan 6, 2006: Is kicked off team at Virginia Tech for legal trouble and unsportsmanlike conduct in Gator Bowl.
Source: The Associated Press </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!---------------------INLINE TABLE (END)--------------------->
On Friday, it was revealed that Vick had been stopped for speeding and driving with a revoked or suspended license in Hampton on Dec. 17, Cpl. James West said. Vick's license had been taken away in August 2004 when he was cited for reckless driving and marijuana possession in New Kent County.
Steger suspended Vick from school at that time, and warned that any additional problems would effectively end his time as a member of the Hokies' football team.
"The university provided one last opportunity for Vick to become a citizen of the university and readmitted him in January 2005, with the proviso that any future problems would result in automatic dismissal from the team," Steger said Friday.
Beamer said in a statement that he was disappointed with the outcome. "We wanted what's best for this football team and Marcus," he said. "I certainly wish him the best."
School officials said in a statement that there would be no further comment until a news conference Saturday. Beamer, Steger and athletic director Jim Weaver, who said the stomping embarrassed the university, were all expected to attend.
The Virginian-Pilot said Beamer met with Vick, his mother, Brenda Boddie, and Vick's attorney, Larry Woodward, at about 4 p.m. Friday. Woodward said Vick planned to issue a written statement Saturday afternoon. "The meeting, it was emotional," said Woodward. "It was not a fun meeting for anybody, but Marcus will look to the future, and we'll have something on that [Saturday]."
Vick said before the Hokies' 35-24 comeback victory in the Gator Bowl that he planned to return for his senior season. Now, his choices are to declare for the NFL Draft by the Jan. 15 deadline or transfer to a Division I-AA school so he can play next season.
Vick entered this season knowing he would face hostility from opposing fans, mostly stemming from his drug arrest and another for serving alcohol to underage girls during the 2003 school year.
He said he was ready for it, but reacted to chants of "rapist" and "child molester" at West Virginia on Oct. 1 by making an obscene gesture in the direction of the crowd. He met with Beamer following that incident and apologized to the team.
In the ACC championship game against Florida State, he drew an unsportsmanlike conduct flag for spiking the ball after a touchdown run with the Hokies trailing, and following the 27-22 loss, walked by reporters after the game without commenting, saying he didn't have to.
He finished that game 26-for-52 for 335 yards with one interception and a fumble near his goal line that teammate Duane Brown recovered. Vick threw one scoring pass and ran for two more touchdowns, but also was sacked six times for minus-35 yards.
On the field, he was often dazzling, but sometimes tried to do too much.
The Hokies started 8-0 and were No. 3 in the polls when they hosted Miami on Nov. 5. But Vick threw two interceptions and fumbled the ball away four times in a 27-7 loss.
This season, he was runner-up to Wake Forest's Chris Barclay as the conference's offensive player of the year, and was voted the first team quarterback on the all-conference team.
In 24 career games, the last 13 starts, Vick was 207-for-346 for 2,868 yards, 19 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. He also rushed 184 times for 492 yards and six TDs.
 
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Pray that nobody drafts this retard.
I hope that NFL execs take a lesson from the Denver Broncos' Maurice Clarett experiment: no amount of talent and God given athletic ability can offset someone with character issues.

This will get a whole lot worse for Va Tech before it gets better. They haven't heard the last from Marcus, and unfortunately for Frank Beemer, who I still think is a fine coach, regardless the behaviour of some thugs on the field, his programs biggest donor is Michael Vick. Michael Vick put that program in the national spotlight, which brought a prime, virtually exclusive license to move games to Thursday nights on ESPN for a national audience, and has personally invested millions of dollars towards elite training facilities.

This whole thing has to be incredibly awkward for Beemer.
 
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Lots of teams nned a QB...don't get me wrong, given what his makeup as a person is, he has no mathematical chance of being a great NFL QB, none whatsoever, but the businessman owners who only really care about making money know how many butts his brother puts in the seats to watch an 8-8 team, so hey, a place like Arizona, with a bunch of receivers, no hopes of making the playoffs and a new 600 million dollar stadium to fill...
 
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This is what bothers me most about sports in general.

Maybe the dude got a quick tug on the nuts in a pile, a hand to the throat, so, he responded. I am not, in any way, defending Marcus Vick. I actually agree with his dismissall. But, there have been athletes who have had way more chances, and done way worse things than "cleating" a guys calf. At least Dummerville had pads on. Lawrence Phillips, IIRC, dragged a gf by the hair, caveman style down a flight of stairs. Jamal Lewis, already a millionaire, set up a DRUG DEAL from his cell phone. I don't know, it just seems to me that off-the-field transgressions are seen as less severe than on-the-field ones. Just my 2 cents.
 
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This is what bothers me most about sports in general.

Maybe the dude got a quick tug on the nuts in a pile, a hand to the throat, so, he responded. I am not, in any way, defending Marcus Vick. I actually agree with his dismissall. But, there have been athletes who have had way more chances, and done way worse things than "cleating" a guys calf. At least Dummerville had pads on. Lawrence Phillips, IIRC, dragged a gf by the hair, caveman style down a flight of stairs. Jamal Lewis, already a millionaire, set up a DRUG DEAL from his cell phone. I don't know, it just seems to me that off-the-field transgressions are seen as less severe than on-the-field ones. Just my 2 cents.

I agree with you in principle, but I think Vick's off-field transgressions were also worse than his on-field also. Sleeping with underage girls, dope in the car, drinking and driving underage, I forget all the particulars...but for that he was suspended for an entire season, but then allowed back. He was not kicked off the team because he spiked the player...he spiked the player, did all the crap he did in the past, and had been arrested again in December for driving with a suspended license...the guy is a walking nightmare.
 
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I agree with you in principle, but I think Vick's off-field transgressions were also worse than his on-field also. Sleeping with underage girls, dope in the car, drinking and driving underage, I forget all the particulars...but for that he was suspended for an entire season, but then allowed back. He was not kicked off the team because he spiked the player...he spiked the player, did all the crap he did in the past, and had been arrested again in December for driving with a suspended license...the guy is a walking nightmare.

Right, I understand the dude has issues. I also agree with him being dismissed, it's just that espn and thier kind, and the "public", in general seem to be outraged by this type of incident moreso than beating on a woman or dealing drugs.
 
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The reaction by Virginia Tech has NOT increased my respect for their football program, especially for Frank Beamer.

Had it not been for the VT quarterback coach speaking out, this matter probably would have gone away. He made it the news item and Beamer was strangely silent. It seems likely Vick wasn't pulled from the game because Beamer would not have tolerated it.

Even in the dismissal, the VT University President made the decision and Beamer simply communicated it. Perhaps this is because Michael Vick has done so much financially for the program. I won't judge him because I don't know all the elements he had to consider.

However, it is clear to me that he has behaved in a way that puts the interests of sportsmanship behind other interests.

Sports adminstators and coaches often have to make decisions that have "a lot of gray areas". The good and bad guys aren't that easy to make out and the decisions are complex. However, sportsmanship is non-negotiable. If we allow it to be traded away, then the essence of all that is good about college football also is traded away.

Whenever you fail to stand for the principles, you lose something more valuable than money can buy. Frank Beamer needs to take a good, hard look at what he lost by choosing Marcus Vick over good sportsmanship.
 
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