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THE GAME: ttun @ tOSU, Sat Nov 26, 12pm, FOX

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by BB73, Jan 14, 2022.

  1. osuvictory1

    osuvictory1 Junior

    So I read that Edwards has a broken hand. If true that will effect them as well, because like Henderson, he is most effective in space with screen passes.

    Now take that with a grain of salt, because it comes from a TTUN Facebook group, but it seems plausible.
     
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2022 at 11:22 PM
  2. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    I took a page out of Jax's playbook and am watching 2018. The offensive game plan is 100% this game. Despite having Dobbins and Weber, the offense moves through the arm of the QB and the stable of NFL caliber WRs. Do what we did in 18, we win easy.
     
  3. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    I've watched every edition going back to '01 for the most part and more often than not we've relied on superior skill player talent to over come tsun being better at playing "bully ball" or whatever you want to call it. I call it playing in the phone booth because they excel at plays that all operate in about a 10yard window from the LOS.

    '01-'03 Tress came in and had the personnel so he tried to out muscle them. It worked in '01, was so-so in '02 but he won then he got his ass kicked in '03.

    '04-'06 he flat out could tell that Lloyd had a better manball team (especially '06) so he didn't try to engage them in the 10 yard phone booth. He spread them and dominated*.
    * The coup de grace came in '07 when he went back to "Tresselball" and beat them 14-7 in the most enjoyably boring as fuck game I think I've ever seen. It was like watching him use a sweater vest to slowly asphyxiate Lloyd. A masterwork.

    Fast forward to 'Urban years and '12, '14, '16 and, yes, even '18 they could beat us if we stayed in that 10 yard phone booth and let them play that way. '17 was another classic example of them pretty much beating us at our own game until Haskins and Day threw the change up and beat them with skill.

    @jwinslow mentioned Wisconsin and I couldn't agree more. I've been using "peak Wisconsin" to describe tsun all year. I mention that to show the way not to play these guys. Cooper really struggled with Wisconsin because he would try to out-Wisconsin them instead of using his recruiting/talent advantage. Tress had issues early in his manball phase as well. Peak Wisconsin can give you fits, especially in a tough atmosphere and bad weather.

    Take a page from 2004, 2006, 2018 (best examples), stay out of the phone booth and make it about skill. I personally wouldn't try to shove it down anyone's throat on 3rd and 1. I'd throw some play action almost every time. Don't play their game, make them play yours.
     
  4. Buck I in Mich

    Buck I in Mich I'm gonna need another drink

    And I hope they don’t this weekend. But with a week of practice and adding in designated QB runs, they could craft a running game with that O Line and another back (if Corum is hurt).
     
  5. dragurd

    dragurd Senior

    I've been screaming for that in 3rd and short we showed it a little the last 2 games. But play action Stover up the seam every time till they stop zero blitzing the safeties
     
  6. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    Yeah. I am not saying we can't run at all, and if we do our odds seem 100% better with straight ahead inside zone type stuff like we saw them get back to (mostly) the past couple of weeks.

    The outside zone/stretch stuff fails at an alarming/amazing rate.
     
  7. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.



    Ohio State Football: 3 Important Factors for “The Game”

    1. Michigan Offense
    At this point, it is no secret that Michigan’s star running back, Blake Corum, suffered a knee injury last week against Illinois. The extent of this injury has been kept quiet, with many analysts stating it is likely a bone bruise or MCL sprain. His value to the offense is immense, he has accounted for 1,457 rushing yards and 18 TDs, the next most used RB, Donovan Edwards, has 471 yards and 4 TDs, who is also battling an injury. If either or both of these players miss the game or are limited, Michigan’s run heavy offense will be drastically impacted.

    Even if both or one of these players are healthy, Michigan is still faced with a tough task offensively. It has been evident throughout this season that Ohio State is much better against the run than the pass. This will likely mean that if Ohio State can limit the run, the game will be won or lost on the arm of JJ McCarthy.

    This could make things very interesting. The Michigan coaches have put very little effort into developing McCarthy as a passer. His accuracy is poor and his ability to hit shots 15+ yards downfield isn’t great. He would have to take a massive step forward in his confidence and passing abilities if he was asked to sling it around against the Buckeyes.

    2. Ohio State Run Game
    While, the Ohio State passing offense has been one of the most prolific in the country, the run game has had its struggles. Although the numbers have been relatively solid week to week, it is the consistency that has lacked. At times, the Buckeyes’ offensive line has moved defensive fronts with ease and the run game has shined, such as against Rutgers. While in other cases it has been hard to pick up third and short on the ground and seemed impossible to create holes.

    However, a new variable has been thrown into this equation. With Miyan Williams injured and TreVeyon Henderson tweaking an injury early on, freshman Dallan Hayden had his breakout game against Maryland. Almost all of his work came in the second half, as he carried the ball 27 times for 146 yards and 3 touchdowns.

    The Buckeyes will obviously look to be a pass first team and air it out against TTUN. But, maintaining balance and forcing their opponent to respect the run is very important to that success. As Miyan Williams eyes a return, the use of Hayden and Williams will be essential to generating offensive success. TreVeyon Henderson’s status remains up in the air, but if he is healthy, Ohio State could have a 3-headed monster to share the backfield snaps.

    3. Weather
    When playing football in late November in the Midwest, the nature element is always in play. As many Ohioans and even those from up north know, the weather forecasts can change quickly. Even just between the first three days of this week there have been reports of ‘53 degrees, cloudy, and light wind’ to ‘38 degrees, rainy, and wind gusts.’

    At the end of the day, the predictions are irrelevant. It is the weather at kickoff and over the course of play that will matter.

    If rain and winds do arise, the Ohio State pass game will be tested and running will become more important. We saw some glaring issues present themselves against Northwestern when weather had a massive impact. However, since then Ohio State did show the ability to pass, run, and protect the ball in wet conditions when facing Indiana.

    Ultimately, for both of these teams weather would be impactful. But overcoming this challenge would just be a necessary step towards greatness.

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    The founder is (just) Dave.....:confused:
     
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  8. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    As a Jim Bollman survivor, I am triggered
     
  9. Been saying the same thing myself.

    Screw being balanced and trying to play physical. You do what you're best at and ultimately what helps you score touchdowns. If that's throwing the ball then that's what you do 100% of the time if that's what is required. Don't try to play their game and thats ultimately my biggest worry. My biggest worry is we will be so amped up to show them we are tough that we won't do what we do best. Then before you know it we run out of time.

    Throw the ball and put up points. Force them to throw the ball to keep up.
     
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  10. RB07OSU

    RB07OSU Senior Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    He is for sure if the offer comes...
     
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  11. Jake

    Jake Legend ‘17 The Deuce Champ '18 The Deuce Champ Fantasy Baseball Champ

    It's beyond midnight, so Happy Thanksgiving and...

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  12. Buckeye86

    Buckeye86 I do not choose to discuss it

    I’m hopeful that the year of confounding play calls, especially in short yardage run situations, where it seemed like Day was calling plays to challenge the team more than he was calling plays he expected to work, was a year long psych out directly aimed at Michigan to make them think that we are going to try to it play them in a phone booth, and hey—we’re not actually that good at it.

    Get overly confident, you fucks, the pain is coming.
     
  13. Buckeye86

    Buckeye86 I do not choose to discuss it

    Why not both? We can call plays to maximize our talent advantage in space while the OL is still firing off the ball and beating the hell out of them because they are fired up and pissed off.

    The biggest thing is calling plays that make sense… you don’t have to put your goal line package in on third and two… just run the ball out of that passing formation you’ve been overly predictable out of all year, and run play action out of that running formation you’ve been overly predictable out of all year.
     
  14. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

  15. gmen6981

    gmen6981 Fucc em"

    #1. Happy Thanksgiving to the entire BP community.
    #2, fuck those fucking fucks and their fucking mongoloid fucking coach. Fuck them with a fucking baseball bat dipped in fucking covid and ebola and wrapped in fucking barbed wire.Fuck their giant toilet bowl fucking stadium. Fuck their ugly ass cheerleaders. ( on second thought, don't fuck them. you'll probably catch something and die) Fuck that whore Ann Arbor and everything else about that miserable fucking state.

    Everyone have a wonderful Thanksgiving!
     

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