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THE GAME: ttun @ tOSU, Sat Nov 26, 12pm, FOX

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Remembering 2002: Win over Michigan touched off celebration, sent OSU to the desert

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Nothing of value ever comes easy, and that certainly seems to apply to Ohio State.

The No. 2-ranked Buckeyes barely survived nail-biters at Purdue and Illinois, setting the stage for a showdown with rival Michigan with an unbeaten season, a piece of the Big Ten title and a spot in the BCS National Championship Game at the Fiesta Bowl on the line.

Once again, OSU survived to live another day after turning back the 12th-ranked Wolverines 14-9 before an Ohio Stadium-record crowd of 105,539 and a national television audience on Nov. 22.

Ohio State (13-0, 8-0 Big Ten) sewed up its 29th conference crown and secured a spot in the Jan. 3 Fiesta Bowl with the win, despite trailing most of the way. OSU scored the go-ahead touchdown on a 4-yard run by Maurice Hall with 4:55 left, then created two Michigan turnovers in the final three minutes to hold on for dear life and secure the win.

"We knew it would be a battle," said OSU coach Jim Tressel, who improved to 2-0 against the Wolverines. "Michigan played hard and physical, like every Ohio State and Michigan team does in this game. We knew if we kept at it and got a touchdown there we would have a good chance to win the game."

Entire article: https://247sports.com/college/ohio-...57Opy3-MtgmTKhhGXd725I1XlBAd0iu76ec5GCIONh_n8
 
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They have not been Georgia'ing their opponents.

They've been Wisconsin'ing them. Jim refuses to recruit, so he built a stronger Wisconsin. And that makes them sound, physical, great at running the ball, disruptive and NFL talented in their front 7, and almost always efficient if not also NFL talented at OL and TE.

It also means they rarely know how to throw the football, and have no requirement to do so to win ballgames.

OSU's secondary is weak enough that this script could change, but Jim doesn't trust JJ or his WRs against the Rutgers of the world. There's also the small matter of JJ being a very poor manager of the pocket and not durable in the slightest. He's quick, has a great arm, loads of upside and a ridiculously low floor in an offense that gives him simple throws every single playcall.

JJ better play a very different game if he wants to win this thing.
 
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jwinslow said:
They have not been Georgia'ing their opponents.

They've been Wisconsin'ing them. Jim refuses to recruit, so he built a stronger Wisconsin. And that makes them sound, physical, great at running the ball, disruptive and NFL talented in their front 7, and almost always efficient if not also NFL talented at OL and TE.

It also means they rarely know how to throw the football, and have no requirement to do so to win ballgames.

OSU's secondary is weak enough that this script could change, but Jim doesn't trust JJ or his WRs against the Rutgers of the world. There's also the small matter of JJ being a very poor manager of the pocket and not durable in the slightest. He's quick, has a great arm, loads of upside and a ridiculously low floor in an offense that gives him simple throws every single playcall.

JJ better play a very different game if he wants to win this thing.
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TTUN is playing Tressel ball. Pounding ball control, which is capable of running through the Big 10, but has issues with teams that are able to fly, and which there is a talent gap.

Even Tressel was able to make things interesting against more talented teams; case in point being The U and Oregon.

But more often than not we got embarrassed on the national stage against more talented teams.

That's TTUN.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Check out Football Outsiders line rankings:
Offense
Defense

As the eyeballs tell us, they are really good in 3rd and 3 or less. We are not. Other than that it's mostly edge OSU across the board.

Weather is looking good as of now and I stand by my belief that they haven't faced a "like thing" to our passing attack while we have seen a "like thing" in every aspect of their game.

Carve them up through the air (meaning score points not just rack up pass yards between the 20's) and we'll be just fine.
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Yep, I said in the last game thread that the offense is supposed to/needs to lead this team. That’s how Day built his resources. And it would make the defense more dangerous.

The fact the Defense has had to carry the water for bulk portions of games this year is concerning while the offense sputters. What’s not disappointing is that the D has largely answered the bell - relative to what you can expect against modern offenses and certainly better than year’s past.

Saturday the offense has to do their job though. I expect (hope) they will.
 
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OHSportsFan said:
Yep, I said in the last game thread that the offense is supposed to/needs to lead this team. That’s how Day built his resources. And it would make the defense more dangerous.

The fact the Defense has had to carry the water for bulk portions of games this year is concerning while the offense sputters. What’s not disappointing is that the D has largely answered the bell - relative to what you can expect against modern offenses and certainly better than year’s past.

Saturday the offense has to do their job though. I expect (hope) they will.
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I think we are all forgetting we lose Olave and Wilson.... then lost JSN game 1 too.

That's a lot of turnover. Regardless we're still the #1 scoring offense and in yards per play.
 
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Buck I in Mich said:
No announcement with regards to Saturday. I was referring to when he went "OUT" against Illinois. Even though Corum has handled the bulk of the load all season, if he is out for the weekend, we should still respect the fact that his line makes the holes or holds the blocks long enough for him to find creases. They can replicate that with another running back.
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They weren't able to after Corum went out last weekend.
 
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osuvictory1 said:
Knowles

TTUN is playing Tressel ball. Pounding ball control, which is capable of running through the Big 10, but has issues with teams that are able to fly, and which there is a talent gap.

Even Tressel was able to make things interesting against more talented teams; case in point being The U and Oregon.

But more often than not we got embarrassed on the national stage against more talented teams.

That's TTUN.
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He also had magnificent wrs and very good QBs.

Ray Small and Roy Hall would both be Michigan's #1 wr this year. Devon Torrence would be competitive. Sanzenbacher would be a no brainer. Only one of those guys was anywhere near the top 3 on a particular OSU squad.
 
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“WE KNOW OHIO STATE'S OUR TOUGHEST COMPETITION. THIS WILL BE OUR TOUGHEST TEST TO DATE … I THINK THEY'RE A REALLY GOOD TEAM, IMPROVED TEAM.”– JIM HARBAUGH ON OHIO STATE

In fact, Harbaugh had nothing but pleasant things to say about his archrival during his start-of-week presser. Harbaugh said the 2022 Ohio State team “absolutely” looks tough and said he’s seen an “improved” group on film as he prepares for the 118th edition of The Game.

“We know Ohio State's our toughest competition. This will be our toughest test to date. … I think they're a really good team, improved team. It's a tremendous team. And we're very grateful to be in this position to be playing in this game. Winner takes the East, you know, winner takes all right there. So, strong opponent. And it's the kind of situation that gives you the opportunity to display how strong our team is. There's no need to hate. Be grateful for the opponent.

“It's like superheroes. It's through a strong opponent that you get to find out who you are. They have a lot of players that are really good. They got great players, we got great players. They have great coaches, we have great coaches. They have players with Heisman habits, we have players with Heisman habits. And congratulations. Be grateful for having the opportunity to play in this kind of big game.”

 
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jwinslow said:
He also had magnificent wrs and very good QBs.

Ray Small and Roy Hall would both be Michigan's #1 wr this year. Devon Torrence would be competitive. Sanzenbacher would be a no brainer. Only one of those guys was anywhere near the top 3 on a particular OSU squad.
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Teddy Ginn, anyone?

One guy I really miss on the other side of the ball is Malcolm Jenkins.
 
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