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THE GAME: ttun @ tOSU, Sat Nov 26, 12pm, FOX

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osuvictory1 said:
This will be another game where half the team doesn't play, and this time we are going to look terrible.
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I wouldn't be shocked if a player had a solid freshman season, a stellar sophomore season, that they sit out their entire junior year and just prepare for the draft like those players did during COVID (Ja'marr Chase, Micah Parsons, among others).

But the 12-team playoffs solves that issue (of players sitting out bowl games) and is another reason college football admins wanted it (in addition to the larger paycheck for schools).
 
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Day doesn’t get it and he’s clearly not going to get it. If last year didn’t do it, this year isn’t going to. Cut bait before we go through this shit a third time and make it very clear that taking this game lightly is not and will never be acceptable.
 
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LSU getting thumped by 4-7 Texas A&M so they are out assuming A&M can hold a 21 point lead with 8 mins left.

It comes down to USC vs Ohio State for the final spot. Of course they will get it unless they lose tonight or next week.

Chaos everywhere it can only help at this point with Clemson already going down knocking them out.

Oregon going down to Oregon State they are out.

You know we could won sure but it sure sucks that every other team can lose a game and still get in over us despite we lose 1 game because we lose it the latest. Everyone else has to lose 2 games for Ohio State to get in with 1 loss.
 
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About $56 million left on Ryan Day's contract for the buyout paid over two years, since he's signed through 2028.

I'd question if OSU would buy him out even if he lost next season since it would be over $40 million and the playoffs could theoretically expand to 12 schools for 2024 season.
 
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sg86 said:
Day doesn’t get it and he’s clearly not going to get it. If last year didn’t do it, this year isn’t going to. Cut bait before we go through this shit a third time and make it very clear that taking this game lightly is not and will never be acceptable.
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I think he get's it. The issue is that he somehow thinks he can both HC and be a OC.

I think some of the issue is he also just doesn't have that killer instinct. He is trying to be everybody's friend, and there just isn't a fire there.

You have to be a hard ass to win in CFB. You can get away somewhat in the NFL by trusting players to just being able to find their own intensity.

That doesn't work in CFB. You have to be a hard ass. You just do.

You never see him get fired up or get into his team when the level of play isn't there.

He is way way too nice.
 
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BVistahC said:
About $56 million left on Ryan Day's contract for the buyout paid over two years, since he's signed through 2028.

I'd question if OSU would buy him out even if he lost next season since it would be over $40 million and the playoffs could theoretically expand to 12 schools for 2024 season.
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Just stop.

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osuvictory1 said:
I think he get's it. The issue is that he somehow thinks he can both HC and be a OC.

I think some of the issue is he also just doesn't have that killer instinct. He is trying to be everybody's friend, and there just isn't a fire there.

You have to be a hard ass to win in CFB. You can get away somewhat in the NFL by trusting players to just being able to find their own intensity.

That doesn't work in CFB. You have to be a hard ass. You just do.

You never see him get fired up or get into his team when the level of play isn't there.

He is way way too nice.
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You can. Pete Carroll did at USC but you need enough hard ass players that everyone trusts to make it work
 
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osuvictory1 said:
I think he get's it. The issue is that he somehow thinks he can both HC and be a OC.

I think some of the issue is he also just doesn't have that killer instinct. He is trying to be everybody's friend, and there just isn't a fire there.

You have to be a hard ass to win in CFB. You can get away somewhat in the NFL by trusting players to just being able to find their own intensity.

That doesn't work in CFB. You have to be a hard ass. You just do.

You never see him get fired up or get into his team when the level of play isn't there.

He is way way too nice.
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100% agree with this.

You people calling for Day to be fired are crazy. UM had 2 fucking decades of mediocrity after Llllloyd Carr...careful what you wish for you entitled brats.
 
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osuvictory1 said:
I think he get's it. The issue is that he somehow thinks he can both HC and be a OC.

I think some of the issue is he also just doesn't have that killer instinct. He is trying to be everybody's friend, and there just isn't a fire there.

You have to be a hard ass to win in CFB. You can get away somewhat in the NFL by trusting players to just being able to find their own intensity.

That doesn't work in CFB. You have to be a hard ass. You just do.

You never see him get fired up or get into his team when the level of play isn't there.

He is way way too nice.
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Totally agreed and to an extent it's sort of the same with Stroud too.

Love Stroud and he did well in his career. However he just lacked that big time ability to put a team on his back. To make a back breaking play when it mattered. I suppose we call this the "it" factor...

JJ McCarthy for example scored on a QB power on 4th down by running through a defensive player. Think CJ is ever doing that?

IMO we'll need some OL depth in the Portal but we shouldn't shy away from CB talent and if it's a play making QB maybe we take a look there too?
 
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Systems_id said:
Now that I'm slightly more sober: I..don't even know what to say really.

My general thoughts leans towards Day probably not being the guy though. Like my uninformed dumbass fan hot take is that the actual gameplan was pretty good and what fans were clamoring for all year.

At half time OSU outrushed SCUM something like 120 to 10 yards. Fucking 10. And outgained SCUM in total yards by 100 yards. All of us wanted Knowles to load the box and make JJ beat us with his arm since they hadn't done it all year. I'm not sure if any halftime adjustments were made because I had too much Vodka in me to notice, but I would've stuck to the gameplan in the second half in all honestly. Hell JJ finished with a 50% completion rate.

To be honest it just felt like guys weren't making plays. WAY too many crucial dropped passes. Too many coverage busts on defense. Too many crucial mental errors in general. That's kind of where my "Day may not be the guy" assessment comes in. Like we all had problems with Urban's schemes in the past, but when it came to brass tacks and big games, the players always gave extra effort. For all of the faults Urban's teams had in general, when it came to The Game, they would always make the plays they needed to. I remember in the 2018 game McLauren catching a crossing route 3 or 4 yards away from the first down marker, only to keep his legs going until he had the first down. I feel like those are plays that we were missing.

So yeah it just feels like that extra "spark" was missing. X and O's were fine imo. BUT it also made me appreciate why Urban and Tressel called games the way they did when it comes to brass tacks. Outscheming your opponent sometimes isn't enough. Players gotta make plays when shit gets real.
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That’s the annoying part too. The dog, the fight. It takes every ounce of will to win this game.

go catch the 50/50, beat your man on a route, break a tackle, get extra yards. There was none of that. No sense of urgency. It looked like another game in person.

Down late on the last drive, Stroud was so casual about getting the play snapped. I just question all of it now
 
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