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THE GAME: ttun @ tOSU, Sat Nov 26, 12pm, FOX

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This team has followed Stroud’s body language all year. When things are going good, Stroud is great. But when things don’t go his way, he mopes and forces things and has some of the most negative body language ever.

He’s not a leader. He’s a very very good QB more often than not, but he’s not a leader at all. No energy, no positivity, head always down.

I like the kid overall but he’s just not cut out to be a leader in the backfield. At all.
 
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osuvictory1 said:
Day will most likely stay, the issue is, he has to give up some of the reigns on the O. It's just not working, and he isn't able to see if during the game.

He is not seeing the big picture with the program.

I think he is a talented offensive coordinator. There are big question's on whether he can pull it all together.
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Day will absolutely stay. Time to let Wilson move on and bump Hartline to OC?
 
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zwem said:
Good game (I always say this, win or lose; so not trolling for the new Buckeyes on this forum).

I thought your secondary could be exploited; I just didn't think it would be Michigan doing it. I'm also surprised that Knowles was stubborn with his defense. He didn't change it up and got exploited. It reminds me of Don Brown when you guys blasted us with 62 in 2018.

I was worried about a quick start by OSU. Michigan has been a second half team all year, so OSU missed some opportunities (especially in the redzone) along with not running the ball more often. You guys had success with it, so I'm not sure why you didn't run more in the first half. Michigan just wears on you and the holes opened up with the running game in the second half.

Finally, the discipline just wasn't there. The penalties and unsportsmanlike conduct. I thought we got bailed out with the pass interference call in the end zone. It was pass interreference, but the tacky stuff doesn't need to be called. Other than that, they let both teams play. I was frustrated because our dine was getting held, especially Mazi. But we got away with holds as well. In this game, just let both teams play and don't call the ticky tack shit.

Anyways, see you guys in Ann Arbor for next year. You still have Egbuka, Harrison, and the running backs coming back along with high end talent. So, I don't think this thing is swinging our way yet. There needs to be more of a sample size plus Jimmy may flirt with the NFL.
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appreciate the classy post, but not swinging your way yet?
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Watching Fields in Chicago taking every bad outing last year as a personal disgrace (even though he was set up to fail) and taking personal responsibility for every loss this year (even though he played his heart out injured) is so different than CJ. You can't coach that...not at this point. It's fucking instilled early. Maybe the difference between hardcore Georgia HS football and finesse SoCal football.
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Calms down guys. Just cause he doesn't show it doesn't mean he doesn't care. Haskin's wasn't Barret or Fields either. But he clearly gave it his all. Stroud ain't the vocal love and die with every play style leader we're used to is all.
 
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dragurd said:
Calms down guys. Just cause he doesn't show it doesn't mean he doesn't care. Haskin's wasn't Barret or Fields either. But he clearly gave it his all. Stroud ain't the vocal love and die with every play style leader we're used to is all.
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You can be that quiet, behind-the-scenes leader as a safety or tackle. When you're the QB, you need to have that ability to put the team on your shoulders and let them know that you'll see them through.
 
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dragurd said:
Nah that's still Oregon vs Georgia or SC vs Tennessee.

This was exactly like last year. 2 late TDs made it look worse then it was. We weren't winning that game. But it should have been 7-10 pt loss.
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I mentioned ND/Clemson and realized all of those games knocked teams out of the #4 spot (wasn't Oregon there once? Their uniforms are so blindingly memorable you can hardly remember anything else about them). I was actually rooting for TCU to lose last weekend just so it felt cursed.

LOL when we were 20-17 and Klatt said something about how we could both make it I was thinking please dear Lord no. That score didn't adequately represent the performance in the game
 
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dragurd said:
Calms down guys. Just cause he doesn't show it doesn't mean he doesn't care. Haskin's wasn't Barret or Fields either. But he clearly gave it his all. Stroud ain't the vocal love and die with every play style leader we're used to is all.
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that does matter though. People can’t read minds. CJ can care as much as he wants internally but he’s in the biggest leadership role on the team and there’s no passion. There’s nothing there to motivate or push people. He can feel however he wants internally but he’s the QB and if everything he’s putting out externally looks like “whatever” then that’s the direction things are going to trend.
 
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