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Game Thread THE GAME: #1 Ohio State 42, #2 Michigan 39 (11/18/06)

Once we beat Indiana tomorrow, i'm going to be very interested in the Iowa at Michigan game. Iowa always plays Michigan tough...and you have to think that this is the last chance for Iowa to have a respectable season after losing to Indiana...and you must think that they were looking past Indiana to this game.

So here is a question...who are you rooting for tomorrow?
 
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TSUN. I want them to win every game between now and then by 50.








Actually I'll end up rooting for Iowa and everyone that plays TSUN between now and then because I just can't bring myself to root for them. But if they did win every game by 50 it'd be that much sweeter when we beat them.
 
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this whole countdown till 1 vs 2 thing is KILLING ME. my insides are already twisted in knots. I have always rooted for scUM until they play us but this year i just want them to lose. I am overreacting. I may as well take the whole month of november off work because i will be worthless.
 
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I never thought I'd say something so cliche and mean it, but now that the Iowa game's over there's no longer any denying the fact that we're all going to be witnesses to THE GAME of the century ... Go Blue!
 
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Michigan 20 | Iowa 6
Michigan clears path to OSU game

Wolverines outlast Iowa, prepare for three easier foes before battle with Ohio State.


By By Marc Katz
Staff Writer

Sunday, October 22, 2006

ANN ARBOR, Mich. ? Not so much a rousing chorus of Hail to the Victors as a sigh of relief rose from mammoth Michigan Stadium on Saturday afternoon.
The University of Michigan made it to Phase 2 of its football schedule, discarding Iowa, 20-6, in front of 110,923 spectators, most likely retaining its No. 2 and No. 3 rankings in the two biggest national polls while going to 8-0 overall, 5-0 in the Big Ten.
Phase 2 begins Saturday ? playing Northwestern, followed by Ball State, followed by Indiana ? the marshmallow teams following the steak burgers.
Then the Wolverines go on the road at No. 1 Ohio State on Nov. 18.
"Everyone knows we've played our toughest stretch of games," Michigan tailback Mike Hart said after his 126-yard, two-touchdown effort against the No. 23 Hawkeyes (5-3, 2-3). "Everyone knows it. That's no lie.
"We have three more coming up, too," Hart added, "before the big one.
"I guess you've got to deal with it. Everyone is talking about O-State, O-State, O-State. We know that's the big one. But we've got other games to play."
Iowa arrived having been bruised by Indiana but eager to ruin the Wolverines, who scored the only three points of the first half.
The game was briefly tied before an announcement that former UM coach Bo Schembechler was doing well and watching the game from his hospital bed. He was admitted Friday night with chest pain.
After that, Michigan scored a touchdown, held a revived Iowa offense to a field goal after the Hawkeyes drove to the 4, then finished it out with two more scores.
Hart turned around the usual questioning when asked about Iowa's loss at Indiana.
"We're No. 2 in the nation," Hart said. "Maybe Iowa looked past Indiana getting ready for us. Penn State (a 17-10 victory last week) and Iowa were both dangerous if we didn't play our "A" game."
There appears to be only one more necessary "A" game to finish a perfect regular season. Even Michigan coach Lloyd Carr knows that.
"I think it's pretty simple to talk about," Carr said. "It's not easy to do. It's not easy as a coach. One of my jobs is to look at the big picture. Every Sunday, we always talk a little bit about the big picture. I think the key for us as a football team is to play better. You can't get ahead of yourself. When you get ahead of yourself, that's when you've got a problem.
"We don't live in a vacuum. We know what's out there, and it's exciting to be there. I wouldn't deny that. And if you're not excited, there's something wrong with you. But the job isn't finished."
Schembechler watches
Former Michigan coach Bo Schembechler was watching the Wolverines play from the hospital and feeling OK, the school announced during its game against Iowa on Saturday.
The 77-year-old Schembechler felt ill Friday at the taping of a weekly television show, was hospitalized and held for observation in the cardiac unit.
 
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Who's better - Ohio State or Michigan? Who knows?


AL LESAR
Tribune Staff Writer


Which is the better football team, Ohio State or Michigan?

The best person to pose that question to might be Michigan State coach John L. Smith. His Spartans lost to the Buckeyes by 31 points last week and were beaten two weeks ago by the Wolverines by 28.

"Ohio State's passing game is more wide open (than Michigan)," Smith said. "If Michigan can get (receiver Mario) Manningham back (from a knee injury), that could be evened out.

"You put the ball in (quarterback Troy Smith's) hands and he's going to do something with it. The two teams are different in that respect.

"Both defenses are very good. Michigan's front is underrated. Michigan's linebackers are active, both secondaries are comparable."

So, which is better?

He didn't say.
 
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Updated: Oct. 22, 2006, 2:23 AM ET
Old-fashioned football at heart of Michigan's change



By Pat Forde
ESPN.com
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ANN ARBOR, Mich. -- Michigan football is one of the great static empires in all of athletics. The pace of change here is only slightly more rapid than continental drift.
Take the regal relic that is Michigan Stadium: It contains no chairback seating, no luxury suites, no eardrum-battering sound system, no corporate signage, no manipulative marketing, no discernible evidence that the 21st century even exists.
Bells: zero.
Whistles: none.
And the next night game in the Big House will be the first.
Now examine the coaching lineage of the Wolverines. What Bo Schembechler began in 1969 continues today, with Bo handing off to assistant Gary Moeller, who was succeeded by assistant Lloyd Carr. There will be seizures in this state if the head coach is ever anything but a Michigan Man.

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Michigan's defense is stifling opponents this year.



It's as if Bo hung a "Do Not Disturb" sign on the place when he retired in 1989. And they listened. And still managed to win.
But even here, in the football land where time stands still, creeping modernism is being accommodated. Grudgingly, perhaps, but accommodated nonetheless.
On Thursday the school unveiled an artist's rendering of what a massive remodeling of Michigan Stadium might look like. Luxury boxes and club seating are inevitable, even if some traditionalists throw themselves in the path of the first wrecking ball. Construction could begin after the 2007 season.
And last winter, after a 7-5 season had some fans agitating for his ouster, Carr finally confronted the need for change within his program.
His offensive and defensive coordinators -- Terry Malone and lifelong Michigan Man Jim Herrmann -- were replaced, after being encouraged to pursue opportunities in the National Football League. (The replacements -- Mike DeBord and Ron English -- came from on staff, naturally. Carr was hardly going to get radical and go outside the family.) The offseason conditioning approach was revamped, too, with special attention paid to trimming fat and improving diets.
Today, with an 8-0 record and clear sailing until Armageddon in Columbus on Nov. 18, Michigan can say it (through clenched teeth, perhaps):
Change is good.
"We're just trying to be better every game," said Wolverines defensive end LaMarr Woodley, "and not be that 7-5 team."
They bear no resemblance to that 7-5 team, to the delight of the Big Blue fan base. Adding to the fans' enjoyment is the fact that, even with the changes of the recent past and near future, Michigan is winning with old-school football.
This throwback team snugly fits the stadium's antiquated ambience, and never moreso than Saturday afternoon. The Wolverines' 20-6 smothering of Iowa was built on a pair of Schembechlerian staples: a belligerent defensive front seven and a persistent running game.

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Mike Hart grinded out his yards Saturday vs. Iowa.



The nation's best run defense allowed just 41 yards to the Hawkeyes. On the other side, the Wolverines refused to stop pounding the rock until they had worn down Iowa and running back Michael Hart had piled up 126 yards and two touchdowns.
Bo knows: Ownership of the line of scrimmage remains the foundation of successful football. And Michigan is very, very good in the pits.
Unfortunately, the 77-year-old Schembechler had to watch this game from an Ann Arbor hospital. He felt ill Friday on the set of a Detroit TV show he was taping called the Big Ten Ticket. Workers at the TV station called 911, but the famously stubborn Schembechler insisted on finishing taping before going to the hospital.
Current Michigan coach Carr went to visit his old boss Friday night.
"Bo said, 'I want to go home because then I can watch the game on big-screen TV,'" Carr related. "He was complaining before that. He said, 'They're not going to let me watch the game,' because his heart was racing.
"I told him there's a few things more important than watching this football game. And staying alive is one of them."
You sure hope Schembechler is alive and well four weeks from now, for what should be the biggest Michigan-Ohio State game since Bo was chomping gum on one sideline and Woody Hayes was raging on the other. The path is now clear for both teams to steamroll into the Horseshoe on Nov. 18 undefeated, with absolutely everything imaginable on the line.
"Everyone's talking about O-State, O-State, O-State," said the puckishly dimpled Hart, pound-for-pound the toughest dude in college football. "We know we have games before O-State. We've got to focus on those."
Even half-hearted focus should get Michigan past Northwestern, Ball State and Indiana (teams ranked 121st, 122nd and 74th, respectively, in last week's Sagarin Ratings). Ohio State should also be able to sleepwalk past Minnesota (46th), Illinois (107th) and Northwestern (121st).
"We don't live in a vacuum," Carr acknowledged. "We know what's out there, and it's exciting to be there. We won't deny that. But the job isn't finished."
One job is finished: the saving of Carr's scalp. It's highly doubtful that the Michigan Men in charge -- athletic director Bill Martin leading the way -- would have gotten rid of Carr, but a repeat of last season would have made everyone miserable.
This is no repeat. The team that grabbed America's attention by trampling Notre Dame in South Bend back on Sept. 16 hasn't let up since.
The main source of that relentlessness has been the spectacularly athletic front seven on defense. The tackles are immovable, the ends are unstoppable and the linebackers seemingly come from all angles. Going into Saturday's games, only two teams (Oregon State and Texas) had racked up more negative yards from scrimmage than Michigan, which had 52 tackles for a loss of 263 yards.

"They were pretty tough. They were without a doubt the best defense we've played all year. How physical they are, their size, their speed -- we haven't seen anything like that." -- Iowa quarterback Drew Tate

The Wolverines added another 28 yards in losses Saturday, sacking Iowa quarterback Drew Tate five times. Linebacker Shawn Crable, a stunning specimen at 6-foot-5 and 245 pounds, had three sacks on blitzes. Woodley had the other two, pushing his total to nine for the season.
And honestly, Tate made some heroic plays to avoid several other sacks.
"They were pretty tough," Tate said. "They were without a doubt the best defense we've played all year. How physical they are, their size, their speed -- we haven't seen anything like that."
Note: Iowa already has played Ohio State.
Players say the Michigan defensive scheme is largely the same as last season, but credit English for simplifying and motivating. Now the focus is Belichick-like: Just do your job.
"Guys this year are doing their responsibility," Woodley said. "If they're supposed to hold the A gap, they're holding the A gap. They're not trying to do more than their job."
And they're doing the job all game long. The fourth-quarter collapses of 2005 are nowhere to be found.
"It's all about how you finish," Woodley said. "Your job on defense is to make the guy across from you quit. You may knock me down, but I'm going to keep coming. After a while you may be like, 'Man this guy keeps coming. He won't quit.' "
Yet for all that relentless fury Michigan's defensive line exudes on the field, they are a jocular group off it.
"We're all jokesters," said tackle Alan Branch, who is almost svelte at 6-6 and 331 pounds. "We all do little pranks.
"LaMarr started that. We just like to have a good time out there."
The 6-2, 269-pound Woodley, who has a buff Woody Woodpecker tattoo on his left arm, is having an All-America season at end. Teammates say he is an all-world needler in the locker room.
Some of which can be, ahem, very personal.
Like the "mama jokes." Asked to explain, Woodley grinned bashfully.

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Iowa quarterback Drew Tate was under pressure all day from the Wolverines.



"It's just stuff like, 'You know I'm your daddy,' " he said. "Or, 'I'm going to take your mom out tonight to a nice restaurant. I gave your mom a hug and she gave me a nice, tight squeeze.' "
Stray into family territory like that in the World Cup and you might be headbutted. But Zinedine Zidane doesn't dress in the Michigan locker room.
"It shows you how close our relationship is, that you can make jokes like that," Woodley said.
In truth, the defensive linemen appeared very respectful of each other's elders. Right after the final gun Saturday evening, several of them politely hugged Rene Biggs, the mother of starting end Rondell Biggs.
Ma Biggs, as she's known around the team, walks with the aid of a cane these days. She had spinal surgery over the summer that did not go well, she said, resulting in nerve damage in her legs and pain in her neck. The former special ed and math teacher is now on disability.
So Ma Biggs spends her time attending Michigan football practices and mothering players who are away from home.
"It makes me feel better if I can do anything for the guys," she said. "I love 'em to death."
Michigan fans are learning to love this team to death. Even if the static empire had to embrace some change along the way.
 
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Let the Hype Begin for No. 1 and No. 2
By RALPH D. RUSSO
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Michigan's Adrian Arrington (16) comes down with a would-be touchdown pass reception in the end zone against Iowa's Miguel Merrick during the second quarter of a college football game, Saturday, Oct. 21, 2006, in Ann Arbor, Mich. Arrington was ruled out of bounds. (AP Photo/Al Goldis) ANN ARBOR, Mich. - "Snakes on a Plane" didn't even get this much advance publicity.

No. 1 Ohio State and No. 2 Michigan are a little less than a month away from their annual Big Ten grudge match, and it's all football fans in Ann Arbor and Columbus, Ohio, talk about. The players and coaches are another matter.

The winner of the Nov. 18 showdown in Ohio Stadium will most certainly play in the Bowl Championship Series title game Jan. 8 in Arizona. Maybe even the loser, too.

The Wolverines have three games left. So do the Buckeyes. Mere formalities, really.

You think no-lead-is safe Northwestern is going to get in the way of the Game of Century? The Wildcats, having just blown the biggest lead in major college football to Michigan State, play Michigan next week and the Buckeyes on Nov. 11.

The Wolverines (8-0, 5-0) also play Ball State _ not even Cardinals alum David Letterman could come up with 10 ways for Ball State to beat Michigan _ and Indiana. Yep, the same Hoosiers who lost 44-3 to the Buckeyes on Saturday

The Buckeyes get Minnesota at home next week. The Gophers nearly lost at home to North Dakota State on Saturday. Next.

The week after the Buckeyes travel to Champaign, Ill. Ron Zook has better chance of being elected mayor of Gainesville, Fla., than getting his Illini to beat Jim Tressel's Buckeyes.

Tressel, Wolverines coach Lloyd Carr and their teams are sticking to the appropriate talking points. "The next game is the most important game," they say.

But even as they desperately try to stick to the script, cracks are revealed.

"We don't live in a vacuum," Carr said after Michigan dusted off Iowa on Saturday. "We know what's out there, and it's exciting to be there. We won't deny that. But the job isn't finished."

The Hawkeyes represented the last reasonable chance for either the Wolverines or Buckeyes to lose before Nov. 18.

Iowa made Michigan work, but the Wolverines' sledgehammer of a defense kept the Hawkeyes out of the end zone and UM tailback Mike Hart _ at 5-foot-9, the smallest battering ram in the country _ scored two second-half TDs to give the Wolverines a 20-6 victory.

In Columbus, Troy Smith, Ted Ginn. Jr. and Ohio State's flying circus offense were putting together a highlight-reel victory against Indiana.

Smith threw four more touchdown passes, dancing away from pass rushers and flicking darts down field. The speedy Ginn even showed off his arm, tossing a 38-yard touchdown pass.

Maybe Tressel was giving Wolverines defensive coordinator Ron English something to think about?

That is, when Michigan actually starts thinking about Ohio State. Because for now, it's all about Northwestern next week for the Wolverines.

Yeah, right.

You guys take 'em one at a time. The rest of us are already delving into the juicy possibilities of a second No. 1 vs. No. 2 matchup of the season, and all the BCS what-ifs that go with it.

Here's the best one: What if Michigan and Ohio State play a close game? An overtime classic. A one-point fantastic finish decided by a last-second score.

What if the winner is the only unbeaten team left when the regular season ends Dec. 2.

Could Nov. 18 just be Round 1 between Michigan and Ohio State, a rematch coming in Glendale, Ariz., with the national title on the line?

Really, it's not that crazy of an idea.

There are only seven unbeaten teams left in Division I-A: Michigan, Ohio State, three Big East teams (Louisville, West Virginia and Rutgers), USC and Boise State.

Boise State doesn't count in this discussion and the Big East schools all play each other. USC still must play California and Notre Dame.

Can the college football world handle Wolverines-Buckeyes II?

It'd certainly go over better than "Snakes on a Plane II."

CASE FOR CLEMSON:@ Clemson looks like the poster team for playoff proponents.

The Tigers (7-1) tore apart Georgia Tech 31-7 in Saturday night's matchup of the Atlantic Coast Conference's best teams behind the new Thunder and Lightning backfield of James Davis and freshman C.J. Spiller.

Davis ran for a career-high 216 yards and two scores. Spiller, conjuring memories of Reggie Bush, had a 50-yard touchdown run and a 50-yard TD catch that left would-be tacklers shaking their heads.

Those all-purple uniforms also had people shaking heads, but for a different reason.

The Tigers have a stack of teams ahead of them in the BCS standings and would need an almost unimaginable series of events to reach the national title game.

Injuries have left Clemson without its best two receivers and its best two linebackers. The Tigers might not have the offensive balance or defensive depth to win a championship, but would anybody want to face these guys in a one-game elimination?

HEISMAN WATCH:@ One voter's ballot if the season ended today (and thank goodness it doesn't):

1) Troy Smith, qb, Ohio State. Still the front-runner.

2) Brady Quinn, qb, Notre Dame. He's now led two fourth-quarter comeback wins.

3) James Davis, rb, Clemson. Adrian Peterson clone.

Out: Calvin Johnson, wr, Georgia Tech and Adrian Peterson, rb, Oklahoma.

Under consideration: LaMarr Woodley, de, Michigan; Marshawn Lynch, rb, Cal; Ray Rice, rb, Rutgers.

Ralph D. Russo covers college football for The Associated Press. Write to him at rrusso(at)ap.org.
 
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Poll Watch!

By Associated Press
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Year in and year out, the Ohio State-Michigan game is one of the biggest games of the year.
But if the latest BCS standings hold up, it'll be even bigger than usual.
The Buckeyes and Wolverines currently hold down the No. 1 and 2 spots, respectively, in the standings. So if the season ended today, you'd have arguably the greatest rivalry in the sport featured in the national championship game in Glendale, Ariz.
Of course, there's just one problem.
That pesky Nov. 18 showdown between Ohio State and Michigan.
While nothing is 100 percent certain where the BCS is concerned, it's becoming more and more likely the annual showdown between the two bitter rivals will be an elimination game as far as the national title goes.
So Southern Cal shouldn't be too upset about dropping a spot to No. 3 despite having the weekend off. If the Trojans manage to run the rest of the table, they would seem to have the inside track on earning a date in the title game with the winner of the Ohio State-Michigan tilt.
That's with an emphasis on the word "seem," mind you.
That's because undefeated West Virginia, which was ranked behind one-loss Auburn in the initial standings, moved up one slot to No. 4, right behind the Trojans, who dropped due to a slight softening of support from the computers.
West Virginia's move up left Louisville as the team with arguably the biggest BCS beef. The undefeated Cardinals are ranked No. 8, behind one-loss Auburn, Florida and Texas.
The rest of the top 10 was filled out by Notre Dame and California.
Rutgers and Boise State, the only other remaining undefeated teams in Division I-A (in addition to Ohio State, Michigan, USC, West Virginia and Louisville), came in at No. 14 and 15 in the standings, respectively.
 
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