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The 2020 College Football Season

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BigWoof31 said:
This was always the real stunning thing (at least from the SEC blogs I read).
Most folks don't understand why you didn't just delay as long as possible or push back the start date. You don't have to start on Labor day.

Our league is probably going to have to cancel the season, but we're going to give it to the absolute last second before doing so. I am still flabbergasted you guys called it in the second week of August.
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Yeah, I don't get it either. Even if you ultimately cancel (which I think everyone will), the decision didn't have to be made when it was made. Push back the start. Keep communicating to everyone "hey, we're probably not playing, but we're gonna do what we can for as long as we can to make it happen."

Then, after it's canceled, have a plan in place. Have direction for the programs. Don't disappear for a week.
 
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BigWoof31 said:
This was always the real stunning thing (at least from the SEC blogs I read).
Most folks don't understand why you didn't just delay as long as possible or push back the start date. You don't have to start on Labor day.

Our league is probably going to have to cancel the season, but we're going to give it to the absolute last second before doing so. I am still flabbergasted you guys called it in the second week of August.
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And that's what I actually expected the B1G to do. I was pretty much already resigned to there being no fall season, but. thought they would at least try to push it back a few weeks in order to keep evaluating the situation. I didn't expect them to be the first P5 to throw in the towel.
As much shit as we talk around around here about the SEC, I have to give them credit for pushing the start of their season back a few weeks so they see what the landscape looks like in a month, although in the end I still think they will cancel too.
 
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Jake said:
Not to mention that even if the decision is reversed an outbreak in the locker rooms could quickly bring it to a halt. I don't have my hopes for anything this year, but I'd like to at least try.

Let the players/coaches who want to opt out do so without consequence. Let the ones who want to play try.
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The timing of this really backs them in a corner. If they had started, or gotten to September, and then shut down, that would be one thing. But if they reverse course now and decide to play after using safety as the excuse not to, they might as well start filing the legal paperwork now for the lawsuits from every player that gets sick AFTER they were to backtrack on “safety”. Basically the timing of their decision has rendered reversing course impossible.
 
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Bucklion said:
The timing of this really backs them in a corner. If they had started, or gotten to September, and then shut down, that would be one thing. But if they reverse course now and decide to play after using safety as the excuse not to, they might as well start filing the legal paperwork now for the lawsuits from every player that gets sick AFTER they were to backtrack on “safety”. Basically the timing of their decision has rendered reversing course impossible.
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The entire B1G PR dept needs an enema.
 
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Bucklion said:
The timing of this really backs them in a corner. If they had started, or gotten to September, and then shut down, that would be one thing. But if they reverse course now and decide to play after using safety as the excuse not to, they might as well start filing the legal paperwork now for the lawsuits from every player that gets sick AFTER they were to backtrack on “safety”. Basically the timing of their decision has rendered reversing course impossible.
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The only exception to that is if there's a liability waiver. They were put in to protect players from signing away their rights but now that's one of the risks universities have to consider before having a season. If players can legally waive liability that opens a door. I'm just not sure that can even happen at this point.

The rush to cancel was foolish. The B1G was the first to trash the OOC games in early July, then the first to cancel things altogether. In between they put together an entirely new schedule. Who is running that joint? :bonk:
 
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Jake said:
The only exception to that is if there's a liability waiver. They were put in to protect players from signing away their rights but now that's one of the risks universities have to consider before having a season. If players can legally waive liability that opens a door. I'm just not sure that can even happen at this point.

The rush to cancel was foolish. The B1G was the first to trash the OOC games in early July, then the first to cancel things altogether. In between they put together an entirely new schedule. Who is running that joint? :bonk:
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That’s another thing...we don’t even know who made this decision, why it was made, when it was actually made, or why it was made when it was made.
 
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THERE WAS NEVER A VOTE...? I naively thought the masses couldn't be more outraged at the Big Ten and Kevin Warren than they already were, mostly because I thought things couldn't possibly get any worse.

I was hilariously wrong on both accounts.

You see, after all the obsessing we did about the "vote" to postpone the season, it turns out that there actually wasn't even a vote, after all.



I'm no expert, on leading a massive collegiate athletics conference, but I am more or less a professional at flaming people online. And as such, I can tell you that this is the sort of thing you can get away with if either everyone agrees, or you publicly address the disagreement and firmly and decisively explain why the decision was made.

If either of those things happened, he would be relatively ridicule-proof, as far as I'm concerned.

However, none of that happened. So instead, we still have administrators expressing their disapproval for this decision a week later, and Mr. Commissioner straight-up declined to discuss or acknowledge any dissent, creating a steady-raging dumpster fire.

SUCCESSFUL PETITION. I've signed exactly one online petition in my life, and it was an earnest plea for the United States government to simply give the state of Michigan to Canada.

Regretfully, it did not happen. Despite the hundreds of thousands of signatures, Michigan remains a part of the United States.

Given my unpleasant experience, when Justin Fields rolled out his #WeWantToPlay petition, I didn't honestly expect it to be any more successful, even with more than 250,000 signatures.

But as we all know, I'm an expert at being wrong.

Tom Mars, the attorney who represented Fields in 2019 in his successful pursuit to have the NCAA waive its rule requiring players to sit out a year after a transfer, believes the petition is more than a Hail Mary attempt in getting the Big Ten to change its mind.

“I think it’s going to matter a lot,” Mars told The Dispatch. “I think it already matters. I don’t think this dilemma is going to be solved in a court of law. I think it’s going to be solved in the court of public opinion. I can’t think of any individual in college football — player, coach or otherwise — who has more credibility and respect than Justin Fields.”

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Mars said he believes the Big Ten’s decision to cancel fall sports was premature, and that it was made worse by the conference’s lack of detail in its announcement.

“The failure of transparency has called into question the legitimacy of their decision,” Mars said, “which reminds me of that expression I heard and was taught long ago: Transparency is the foundation of legitimacy. Without it, you can expect people to question your motives and question whether you made a good decision.”

And it wasn't just Mars with this opinion.



Personally, my expectations on this front remain extremely low, because it goes against logic and what pretty much every other person has reported, but it would certainly spice up my life if Kevin Warren did change his mind, so I'm rooting for it.
 
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The decision is almost certainly not going to change in the Big Ten.

That doesn’t mean the league has done a good enough job explaining how it arrived at such a massive, life-altering conclusion for the players, families and coaches who just had their football seasons ripped away.

Ohio State is starting petitions, writing letters and now planning to have at least one parent fly directly to commissioner Kevin Warren’s office in Chicago in hopes for a face-to-face conversation. Nebraska threatened to leave the league initially. Penn State has wondered aloud if there was even an official vote from school presidents. Michigan and Iowa have both had parents come together to publicly seek a chance for their sons to opt in to a football season.

Boiled down to the most basic request: Many conference members want answers, and the Big Ten hasn’t provided them.

For a league that has historically prided itself on its ability to present a unified front, this is a glaring problem for the Big Ten and its rookie commissioner. And while it certainly took an iron will to pull the plug on a football season, it’s also hard to look at what Warren has done since then and view it as strong leadership.
 
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Michigan State just went online only. Even told students planning to live in the dorms to stay home.

I still need someone to logically explain to me how a school can have sports without any students on campus. I mean, asking for a friend.
 
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BuckBackHome said:
Michigan State just went online only. Even told students planning to live in the dorms to stay home.

I still need someone to logically explain to me how a school can have sports without any students on campus. I mean, asking for a friend.
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You mean besides the fact that football players were there training for almost 2 months with no students on campus?

Logically, they take remote classes. What you're talking about seems more like emotions for traditional classes.

You absolutely can play sports with no students on campus, even if you don't want to do it that way.
 
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