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The 2020 College Football Season

How do you figure? Those young adults are attending these universities to receive a world class education while growing as an adult. They would never stoop so low as to go out drinking White Claws after doing keg stands with Natty Light before ripping bong hits. I mean, 18-22 years olds never make self-centered poor decisions.

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That seemed oddly specific.
 
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How do you figure? Those young adults are attending these universities to receive a world class education while growing as an adult. They would never stoop so low as to go out drinking White Claws after doing keg stands with Natty Light before ripping bong hits. I mean, 18-22 years olds never make self-centered poor decisions.

8D

That seemed oddly specific.

Yes it does, do you think LovelandBuckeye is posting his actual 1st hand experience from when he was 18-22?
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Myocarditis Was A Game Changer for Big Ten, Pac-12. How Will it Impact SEC, ACC, Big 12?

When the Big Ten announced on Tuesday that it was shutting down its football teams for the 2020 season, it was widely reported that one reason was the appearance of myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle that can be caused by a number of different viruses, including COVID-19.

Myocarditis can affect the heart’s ability to pump blood and maintain a healthy rhythm. If left untreated it can cause heart failure and sudden cardiac arrest according to the Mayo Clinic website.

CBSSports.com reported that as many as 15 Big Ten football players were left with myocarditis after being diagnosed with COVID-19. That fact, plus the impassioned Facebook posting by a mother of an Indiana player who was struggling with a COVID-related heart issue, was a significant factor that led to the timing of the Big Ten’s decision.

As expected, the Pac-12 followed the Big Ten in shutting down its football programs. That left the SEC, ACC, and Big 12 as the remaining Power Five schools that will attempt to start the 2020 season on time.

The question is, with this new element of the virus now a part of the medical narrative, can those three conferences get to the starting line?

More simply put: Will myocarditis and the challenges of diagnosing it force the final three Power Five conferences to drop out?

Not all doctors agree on how this will ultimately impact the conferences that still want to play football this season. Obviously, the medical people advising the Big Ten and Pac-12 felt it was serious enough to shut down football. While myocarditis is rare in the general population, a recent German study of 100 patients who had recovered from COVID-19 found cardiac involvement in 78 patients and ongoing heart inflammation in 60 patients.

While this is considered a small sample size, the study concluded: “These studies indicate the need for ongoing investigation of the long-term cardiovascular consequences of COVID-19.”

Dr. Cameron Wolfe, an infection disease specialist at Duke, chairs the ACC’s Medical Advisory team. Earlier this week Wolfe said that after combing the data, he thought that football could be played safely. He said doctors have learned how to manage the risk.

“We believe we can mitigate it down to a level that makes everyone safe,” he told the Sports Business Journal. “Can we safely have two teams on the field? I would say yes. Will it be tough? Yes.”

Dr. Robert Hoff, a cardiologist in Atlanta, said that there is range of testing for myocarditis that can be done immediately when a player tests positive for COVID-19. There is a blood test, hsTroponin, which is widely used for measuring heart damage.

A negative finding on this blood test, “makes the diagnosis of acute myocarditis significantly less likely,” according to a May report in “Heart Rhythm,” the official journal of the Heart Rhythm Society.

Entire article: https://www.si.com/college/tmg/tony-barnhart/myocarditis

'It's a F------ Mess': How and Why Football Conferences Are Arriving at Opposing Medical Conclusions

How is it that the Big Ten and Pac-12 deemed it too unsafe to play this fall based on medical experts, but others are pressing on?

The first thing to pop into Greg Stewart’s mind was an anxiety-filled question.

Why did they shut down?

This was Tuesday, a historic day in college football, when storied college conferences, the Big Ten and Pac-12, announced the cancellation of fall football. Stewart, the team doctor at Tulane, doesn’t exactly remember where he was or what he was doing. He does, however, remember what he said internally.

“Is there something that they know that we don’t?” asks Stewart, the American Athletic Conference’s lead COVID-19 medical chief. “When someone in the Power 5 shuts down, I need to understand the why. If it’s something we haven’t thought about, then that’s important. It’s not a resource thing, so what is it?”

The data, aside from variations in regional virus case numbers, is virtually the same. For the most part, schools are adhering to the same testing, quarantine and mitigation protocols. In fact, COVID-19 numbers on many teams seemed to have leveled off over the last several weeks. Some programs had even started fall camp—without much issue—and many others were easing into a more normal preseason practice regimen.

The Big Ten, just six days before the shutdown, had announced its 2020 schedule, and the Pac-12 had released its conference-only slate just five days before that. When they both pulled the figurative trigger on a 2020 fall football season, the dominoes that many expected to follow—the Big 12, then the ACC, then everyone else—never toppled.

While the medical boards advising the Big Ten and Pac-12 recommended halting activities, similar medical panels for the other six conferences supported those leagues plowing ahead. There were sparring statements from each side. “In my view, no reasonable-minded individual could have listened to the facts presented by our medical experts and believed that we had any other option at this time,” USC athletic director Mike Bohn said in a letter to fans after the Pac-12 canceled its fall season.

That same day, Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby and his presidents decided to continue toward a fall season. “Reasonable people can disagree on it,” he said. “The Pac-12 and the Big Ten are seeing much of the same information that we're seeing. But our board believes in our scientists and has come to a conclusion that is different and so have the leadership of the SEC and the ACC.”

How is this possible?

A host of medical professionals spoke to Sports Illustrated in an attempt to answer that question. They include Pac-12 and Big Ten physicians who gave the shutdown recommendation, SEC and AAC medical advisers who favor a march forward, one of the NCAA’s top COVID-19 experts and various independent practitioners.

So what’s the answer to that question? There isn’t one. There are several. Why two medical boards ruled quite the exact opposite of others, with the same data, in the same country, about the same sport, while performing the same protocols, is not easily explained.

In such a vast nation with differing cultural ideals and local policies, factors include regionalization and politicization. But one of the most pertinent answers to the question? Risk tolerance.

“The other conferences all understand there is a high risk,” says Boris Lushniak, a member of the Big Ten’s COVID-19 advisory group and squarely in the camp against playing a fall season. “They think they can deal with it. Do they have the answer to the unknowns? They really don’t, which means it’s on the spectrum of risk-taking behavior.

“I can’t tell people, ‘You are doing the wrong thing.’ What I can tell people is, ‘You’re doing a risky thing.’”

Entire article: https://www.si.com/college/2020/08/14/ncaa-football-covid-medical-experts-big-ten-pac-12
 
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So what’s the answer to that question? There isn’t one. There are several. Why two medical boards ruled quite the exact opposite of others, with the same data, in the same country, about the same sport, while performing the same protocols, is not easily explained.
Maybe it's because they made their decision not based on COVID data? More and more smoke coming from the camps claiming that the B1G and PAC-12 shutdown not because of COVID but because of player groups.
 
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When the Big Ten and PAC 12 announced on Tuesday that they were shutting down football for the 2020 season, it was widely reported that one reason was the appearance of myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle that can be caused by a number of different viruses, including COVID-19.

Uh-huh...

Football players from the Big Ten on Wednesday joined Pac-12 players in publishing a list of demands related to their safety during the coronavirus pandemic, along with what they called other platforms for change.

Big Ten players follow Pac-12, form unity group
 
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If one of the 3 remaining conferences votes to shut down, it will be the ACC. Just look at their make up and how many are true football schools. That majority of presidents who are against playing could creep up on them quickly. Syracuse, BC, Virginia, Virgina Tech, Duke, Wake Forest, North Carolina, NC State, Louisville, and Pitt are all schools that I think could shift over to not playing. Clemson might have the loudest voice but that might only last for so long.

That majority of presidents who are against playing could creep up on them quickly.

I would also say you could add Notre Dame to that list too. Even though their football coach wasn't up to speed on hydraulic scissor lift safety, I just have to think the Domers actually have higher standards than most of schools you listed.
 
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I just have to think the Domers actually have higher standards than most of schools you listed.
The Jesuits from BC would like a word with you. Frankly, the ACC is a strong conference in terms of academic excellence. I'd be surprised if UVA's class rankings weren't higher than NDs. Same for Duke. UNC and Georgia Tech are excellent public privates and Pitt is no slouch.
 
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What is the worst academic school in the ACC?

NCSU?
FSU?
Clemson?

NCSU isn't weak. Now that Utah is in the AAU, NCSU is most likely the next public in line but probably a far way off. They just get overshadowed by being in the same state as Duke and UNC.

Louisville is by far the worst with FSU/Clemson (mouth)breathing hard on their heels.
 
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RE: AAC Football Scheduling

Dream world reality I know, but Ohio St and Michigan still want to play. Join the AAC for the fall only and it helps our conference pick up enough games overall. Here's who's left of the conferences that have publicly made statements of continuing to move forward [for now]...

SEC
ACC
AAC
Sun Belt
CUSA

Ohio State and Michigan are historically football crazed institutions. They have to be ready to do anything to play if the Alabama's, LSU's, Clemson's and another school in Ohio do play. The AAC is the closest thing to the P5 and both would think they have a great shot of winning the conference. No way the SEC or the ACC would take them due to the difficulty of their conference schedule already. Obviously, there is the issue [a big one at that] of the B1G grant of rights and conference stipulations standing in the way. Surely they wouldn't seek an injunction to enable playing while their case is litigated in court? On the flip, this is already a wierd COVID impact season anyway so why not?
 
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Very good analysis of the 3 different options.

WHAT’S THE BEST OPTION?
There’s really no clear-cut answer to that question. There’s no perfect alternative to playing the fall season as scheduled, which means the Big Ten’s next move will be suboptimal one way or another.

Playing any football in the next 12 months would be preferable to playing no football at all, but the consequences that a spring season could have on the subsequent fall season and on the players themselves also need to be considered in the conference’s decision-making.

The answer to this question could also depend in part on whether the ACC, Big 12 and SEC are able to play their fall seasons or if they also punt to the second semester, though there’s still pros and cons to consider in both scenarios.

On one hand, those conferences playing in the fall could increase the incentive for the Big Ten to play in the spring, as not doing so could put Big Ten schools at a significant recruiting disadvantage; on the other hand, it would give the Big Ten less to play for if a national champion has already been crowned, while less turnaround time between seasons could also put the Big Ten at a disadvantage for the fall of 2021.

Big Ten football programs will be hoping the other Power 5 conferences ultimately follow their conference’s lead, which could lead to everyone playing on the same winter/spring timeframe and put them back on an equitable playing field with a chance to compete for a national title. Yet that could also increase the likelihood that no one plays college football until next fall.

There’s no ideal option left now, but the Big Ten owes it to its football programs and players to weigh all of the pros and cons as it determines what its next move should be.

What's The Best Option?
1) WINTER FOOTBALL
2) SPRING FOOTBALL
3) NO SEASON UNTIL FALL 2021
 
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