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scooter1369;752245; said:
The thing that kept me in line as a kid was not the consequences at school, but the fear of what awaited me at home.
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agreed.

There are other ways to hold parents accountable without making them write you a check. If the kid was busted tagging a school wall, remove the kid from school until his parents come in to help repaint. Make the parents attend detention with the kid. When the parent starts to feel embarassed by the things their kid is putting them through, maybe they will tighten the reigns a bit.
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i like the idea, it could certainly work if used correctly. but i would need to see some specifics on how it would be enforced to be a believer. expecially with issues that aren't severe enough to warrant expulsion. the kid gets a detention, so you tell the parent they have to come in and serve the detention with the child. what do you do when the parent tells you what you can go do with yourself? do you expell the child over something so minor that it warranted only a detention because the parents refuse to comply? what if the parent is willing but does not have the ability to show up between the hours of 3pm and 5pm because of work? alot of these are single family homes or homes in which both parents not only work. but some work more than 1 job.

The idea of fines and higher taxes would only affect those families who struggle financially already. Rich kids could act up and daddy would just write a check to make it go away. Poor kids act up, and the parents are inclined to remove the kid from school to avoid paying the fines. And then we have just set up that child to be a failure in life and poor like his parents.
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don't completely agree with that. to make it relevant it would likely have to be perportional to income. the idea would not be to bankrupt a family, but rather to cause enough of a sting to be noticed. secondly, this shouldn't be used as a money making scheme. but should come from a mindset of, your child has caused X amount of overtime/additional resources because of their actions. now your going to have to pay for that burden.

We can then dive into the finacial and social impact of what we just did to this kid. But that woul be a completely different thread.
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i don't forsee this encouraging families to not send their children to school. expecially if there is the posibility of a tax refund. *shrug* it might be completely impractical. but personally, i don't care much for the idea of me being penalized because someone is a bad parent.
 
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haha, this is hilarious.
I used to have a band teacher that would throw music stands (the old metal kind, not the flimsy plastic ones they've got these days) when kids fucked up. He was a bit of a nutcase, and always at odds with some parents and school officials (for obvious reasons) -- but he was no doubt the best teacher I ever had.
If the kid, and/or his parents, can't take being called out in class because he's acting like a brat -- that's their problem, and it won't get any easier in college or at a job. I don't think throwing books, etc. is always a great option but it's hardly "assault" either.
 
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23Skidoo;752628; said:
haha, this is hilarious.
I used to have a band teacher that would throw music stands (the old metal kind, not the flimsy plastic ones they've got these days) when kids fucked up. He was a bit of a nutcase, and always at odds with some parents and school officials (for obvious reasons) -- but he was no doubt the best teacher I ever had.
If the kid, and/or his parents, can't take being called out in class because he's acting like a brat -- that's their problem, and it won't get any easier in college or at a job. I don't think throwing books, etc. is always a great option but it's hardly "assault" either.
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Dragone was charged with assault and endangering the welfare of a child.
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Tell that to the police. The kid had a bloody nose.
 
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buckeyefool;752650; said:
kids get bloody noses playing football should they file assult against the kid that tackled him?
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Your logic is flawless today.

Of course not. This is ridiculous. This is a TEACHER, not a playground chum. This kid wasn't threatening anyone, he was TALKING for christ sakes. Send him to the fucking office. That's what they did to me. This teacher knows damn well what they did was wrong.
 
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BUCKYLE;752659; said:
Your logic is flawless today.

Of course not. This is ridiculous. This is a TEACHER, not a playground chum. This kid wasn't threatening anyone, he was TALKING for christ sakes. Send him to the fucking office. That's what they did to me. This teacher knows damn well what they did was wrong.
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How do you know he wasn't threatening anyone. Do you know what he said?
 
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BUCKYLE;752663; said:
The article says...
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doesnt say what he said when he refused to stop talking in class....maybe he said "fuck you bitch, make me shut up" if that is the case she suceeded.

To call it assult shows would be stupid. Kid got what he deserved, maybe now the dumbass will shut up in class.
 
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23Skidoo;752666; said:
I'm all in favor of handling these kinds of things in-house. Maybe that's the military nature in me, but "assault" based off of a bloody nose is laughable.
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I don't think it matters if the nose started bleeding as to weather or not it is assault. I was only stating that the teacher threw it pretty hard to give someone a bloody nose.
 
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buckeyefool;752676; said:
doesnt say what he said when he refused to stop talking in class....maybe he said "fuck you bitch, make me shut up" if that is the case she suceeded.

To call it assult shows would be stupid. Kid got what he deserved, maybe now the dumbass will shut up in class.
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I'm not the one calling it assault. The police who arrested the teacher are.

Maybe he won't shut up. If not, then do they hold him down and beat him with a bar of soap in a pillow case?

I hope I have children, and I hope a teacher pulls some shit like this. These people are entrusted to take care of children during the day. Send the little fucker to the office, call his parents, suspend/ expell him. You'll get no argument from me. But to say that a teacher has "the right" to abuse a child, and I call bullshit.
 
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