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3074326;1872565; said:
But if you're TCU.. why do you schedule a game against a team you just beat when it's not going to jump you up in rank much, if at all, and is only a bigger threat to take you down in rank?

Because you're constantly whining about how the big boys won't give you a shot. And then when a big boy gives you a shot, you decline because you don't like the terms. It's a chicken[censored] move.
 
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buckeyesin07;1872673; said:
Because you're constantly whining about how the big boys won't give you a shot. And then when a big boy gives you a shot, you decline because you don't like the terms. It's a chicken[censored] move.

Most of that noise comes from BSU though. I don't remember TCU ever really putting their foot in their mouths in that regard until the recent "anywhere, anytime" publicity stunt.
 
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buckeyesin07;1872673; said:
Because you're constantly whining about how the big boys won't give you a shot. And then when a big boy gives you a shot, you decline because you don't like the terms. It's a chicken[censored] move.

It's really not that chicken shit. They have little to gain as far as respect goes from a rematch against Wisconsin, in Wisconsin. If they win, people say they already knew they could beat Wisconsin. If they lose, people wonder if the Rose Bowl victory was a fluke.

Wisconsin should've won the Rose Bowl. It's their own damn fault, be mad at them.

Does TCU deserve some criticism if they talk about their schedule after turning this down? Sure, but I completely understand why they turned it down. It's not a chicken shit move at all. Wisconsin should offer a series. They're stupid if they expected TCU to accept a single-game rematch in Wisconsin.
 
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3074326;1872690; said:
It's really not that chicken [Mark May]. They have little to gain as far as respect goes from a rematch against Wisconsin, in Wisconsin. If they win, people say they already knew they could beat Wisconsin. If they lose, people wonder if the Rose Bowl victory was a fluke.

Only those people who think that if you beat a team in season 1, you're better than that team in season 2. Which is, quite simply, stupid.

Wisconsin should've won the Rose Bowl. It's their own damn fault, be mad at them.

Whether Wisconsin should've won the Rose Bowl is entirely irrelevant to whether TCU should back up their big talk and play Wisconsin next fall.

Does TCU deserve some criticism if they talk about their schedule after turning this down? Sure, but I completely understand why they turned it down. It's not a chicken [Mark May] move at all.

It's not a chicken[censored] move if they hadn't talked smack. Now that they've talked smack and intimated that they'd take on anyone, anywhere, they've got egg on their face.

Wisconsin should offer a series. They're stupid if they expected TCU to accept a single-game rematch in Wisconsin.

Why should UW offer a series? Because you said so? At the end of the day, TCU's a non-AQ team in the fall of 2011 who whined when Gee made his "Little Sisters of the Poor" comment. Yet, when they had a chance to back up their big talk and play at UW, they instead elected to play Baylor (i.e., choosing the Little Sisters of the Poor team).
 
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buckeyesin07;1872713; said:
It's not a chicken[censored] move if they hadn't talked smack. Now that they've talked smack and intimated that they'd take on anyone, anywhere, they've got egg on their face.

They have egg on their face and a Rose Bowl trophy. I don't think they give a shit what any of us think that says about them.

buckeyesin07;1872713; said:
Yet, when they had a chance to back up their big talk...

They beat them.

Imagine this: February 2003. ESPN wants to set up a September rematch between Ohio State and Miami in Coral Gables. Do you think Ohio State would be chickenshit to turn down a game like that? Just like TCU in this case, everything they needed to say, everything that needed to be backed up was taken care of the first time they played.

Why do people think this immediate rematch was a good idea for TCU, but the idea of Ohio State beating M*ch*g*n in Ann Arbor and then losing to them the next week in Indianapolis the the conference championship is bullshit? If TCU agreed to this rematch, should we demand yet another if they win that one too? How many times in a row would they have to win to prove their point re: Wisconsin?

Besides, by winning TCU earned the right to negotiate from a position of strength. They took something from Wisconsin (their dignity) and they have every right to demand that they come to their place and get it if they want it back.
 
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Besides, by winning TCU earned the right to negotiate from a position of strength. They took something from Wisconsin (their dignity) and they have every right to demand that they come to their place and get it if they want it back.
Their stadium holds 44k. They don't have the room to store the dignity they stole, let alone demand a home game.

TCU & Boise have plenty of opportunities to earn respect in this unfair system.

The reality is they aren't actually interested in competitive fairness. They are making huge dollars by only playing that card when it's convenient, but not when it's risky.
 
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Wisconsin is not allergic to going on the road and playing against non-AQ schools in front of small crowds (attendance in parentheses):

  • 2010 at UNLV (31,107)
  • 2009 at Hawai'i (40,069)
  • 2008 at Fresno State (42,387)
  • 2007 at UNLV (38,250)
 
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Wisconsin is not allergic to going on the road and playing against non-AQ schools in front of small crowds (attendance in parentheses):
2010 at UNLV (31,107)
2009 at Hawai'i (40,069)
2008 at Fresno State (42,387)
2007 at UNLV (38,250)
Fair enough, though I'd be curious whether those were 1 v 1 deals.
 
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jlb1705;1872855; said:
Wisconsin is not allergic to going on the road and playing against non-AQ schools in front of small crowds (attendance in parentheses):

  • 2010 at UNLV (31,107)
  • 2009 at Hawai'i (40,069)
  • 2008 at Fresno State (42,387)
  • 2007 at UNLV (38,250)

jwinslow;1872858; said:
Fair enough, though I'd be curious whether those were 1 v 1 deals.

The Hawaii game was a one-time good deal...no game in Madison. In fact, Wisconsin has played at Hawaii four times since 1996 with no return games in Madison.
 
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Dear TCU,

1) build a real fucking stadium that holds atleast 75k or borrow Jerry World for big time non-conference games.

2) actually start playing big non-conference opponents yearly.

3) in (2008?-2009?) you refuse a single game @ tOSU. Your alumni then pay for a billboard in Columbus Ohio after winning the Rose Bowl vs UW in 2010.


So, you're really just a bunch of loud mouth coward ass shit talkin texans that have an ass whoopin coming.

And now you're the Big Least's best football program.

Shut the fuck up and grow a pair.
 
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jwinslow;1872851; said:
Their stadium holds 44k. They don't have the room to store the dignity they stole, let alone demand a home game.

TCU & Boise have plenty of opportunities to earn respect in this unfair system.

The reality is they aren't actually interested in competitive fairness. They are making huge dollars by only playing that card when it's convenient, but not when it's risky.

Exactly. Boise in particulaf has become quite adept at gaming the system: playing bcs games that they think they can win at neutral sites (think it's coincidental that they agreed to play uga only after they slipped back to being a mid-tier sec team and are being hit by grad losses) and if they win their lovers in the media act like they just beat the 85 Bears. They put poison pills into the negotiations with teams they want to avoid, then run back to boise crying that they can't get the game.
 
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Personally, I'd like to see more bcs athetic directors vo pjblic with gheir boise negotiagions the way the corngards did. Screw the rules of the club. When that loudmouthed president of Boise Clown College is constantly whining to the press abojg his football schedule, it's time to play hardball.
 
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kolOhioState88;1872869; said:
they won't come here but they'd probably accept a home and home. we seem like the biatches to me.

We?

ORD_Buckeye;1872912; said:
Personally, I'd like to see more bcs athetic directors vo pjblic with gheir boise negotiagions the way the corngards did. Screw the rules of the club. When that loudmouthed president of Boise Clown College is constantly whining to the press abojg his football schedule, it's time to play hardball.

A bit early in the day to start drinking turpentine isn't it?
 
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Muck;1872930; said:
A bit early in the day to start drinking turpentine isn't it?

Jesus, you're getting worse than the nebraska guy in stalking my posts. I'll proof read my phone posts in the future and save you from further angst. Smug, drive by attempts at humor aside, what is so wrong with BCS athletic directors calling Boise out on their tired scheduling act?
 
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