ORD_Buckeye
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exhawg;1872215; said:
Whichever school controls the ticket distribution.
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Whichever school controls the ticket distribution.
stkoran
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Can you really fault either institution for their stance in this case? A third party approaches Wisconsin and asks if they would like to host TCU for a one-time rematch in their now open date. They jump all over it. Home game, chance for revenge, no return trip, it's perfect. The same third party asks TCU if they would like to cancel their game with Baylor to go play a one-time at Wisconsin after just beating them. They logically say "no thanks." Not as much buzz by beating the same big dog again, chance to undo momentum they gained, no return trip from Wisconsin, not a lot of upside. (Plus, let's be honest, that game looks like it would almost certainly be a loss for TCU. They lose a lot from last year's team and the game is in Madison. Better for them to lose face in the media for a bit than to take a big step backwards by getting drilled in a game you aren't in a position to win. Think Lee at Gettysburg.)
I don't think Wisconsin is being unfair. It's not as if they approached TCU with this idea in order to set them up. ESPN took a shot at putting together a big game and it didn't work out.
Now, TCU ducking tOSU in 2009, well that is a different story.
I don't think Wisconsin is being unfair. It's not as if they approached TCU with this idea in order to set them up. ESPN took a shot at putting together a big game and it didn't work out.
Now, TCU ducking tOSU in 2009, well that is a different story.
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Buckeye86
I do not choose to discuss it
stkoran;1872490; said:
that would be fine and dandy if TCU didn't run their mouth 3 months ago with "anytime, anyplace, anywhere" BS in response to Gee's comments about sisters of the poor
that argument also falls flat when at the end of turning down the game with Wisconsin they say (and I'm paraphrasing here) "oh yeah, if it was Ohio State it would be a different story, but we're still not going to play Wisconsin"
they're like the little kid on the street corner challenging everyone who passes to a fight and then running away when someone actually takes them up on their offer
fuck them
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stkoran
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Buckeye86;1872498; said:
I guess I should clarify, I think TCU is making the correct decision in turning down the game, but they should definitely be taking heat for it for the reasons you stated.
I also understand that the comment that they would have played tOSU comes off poorly (when tOSU asks for a game they say "Nah, but we would have played the Packers if they asked"), but I think it is likely true. Like I said above, the potential upside for beating a Wisconsin team that they just beat is limited. Compare that to the upside of beating tOSU, a college football giant even when compared to a program like Wisconsin, and the upside is significantly greater. Throw in the fact that we will be without the services of Pryor, Posey, Adams and Herron, and when would TCU really have a better shot to take us, or a similarly situated team, down in our/their own house?
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3074326
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stkoran;1872534; said:
Exactly. TCU has little to gain by playing Wisconsin again. They just beat them. Wisconsin should've taken care of business in the Rose Bowl.
Now, I do think they can't bitch about their schedule/deserve more criticism for it now, but I don't have an issue with them turning down that particular game.
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I think you're downplaying the upside of playing Wisconsin and beating them again. TCU needs all the non-suck opponents they can get. If the option is either play Baylor or play Wisconsin, then beating Wisconsin goes a lot farther towards shutting up anti-midmajor sentiment during BCS selection.
TCU and Boise are going to be doubted (fairly or unfairly) because their conferences make their schedules way too soft. If they're given a chance to upgrade that schedule, they should take it. Unless they're just pretending that they want to be on the top level of CFB.....
TCU and Boise are going to be doubted (fairly or unfairly) because their conferences make their schedules way too soft. If they're given a chance to upgrade that schedule, they should take it. Unless they're just pretending that they want to be on the top level of CFB.....
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3074326
Proud lunatic fringe
BuckeyeNation27;1872551; said:
Why does TCU give a damn what the upside is for Wisconsin? They got the Rose Bowl last year, they're going to be ranked highly this year. They have little to gain by playing and beating Wisconsin again.
Wisconsin should offer a series like we did with USC, Texas, etc. If TCU turned that down, then I'd have more of an issue with TCU turning them down.
But if you're TCU.. why do you schedule a game against a team you just beat when it's not going to jump you up in rank much, if at all, and is only a bigger threat to take you down in rank?
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3074326;1872565; said:
At the end of the season it's still a quality win, they are going to need all the help they can get to overcome Boise for a BCS game. The knob slobbering of the broncos by espn is going to be ridiculous as usual.
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stkoran
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woofermazing;1872570; said:
They don't need to beat Wisconsin to get in ahead of Boise, they just to beat Boise.
A win a Wisconsin certainly enhances their BCS resume this year, but I don't think it is a program defining win, as critics would just point out that all they've done is shown they have Wisconsin's number. A win against a different high profile BCS team, however, could be.
I think TCU has a better shot of playing for a national title by playing a soft schedule, going undefeated, and hoping for only one one-loss BCS team than by marching into Madison with a new QB playing in his first game and winning.
Certainly not the "anytime, anyone, anywhere" attitude, but probably the one that gives them the best at the title.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
woofermazing;1872570; said:
Which is why everyone should be a UGA fan in early September. Put a stop to the nonsense early. It's not only espn but all the boysee loving columnists around the country, not to mention the loudmouthed president of that fucking clown college. The zooner the wind can vo out of their sails the better.
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