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Game Thread Sugar Bowl: tOSU vs Arkansas, Tue, Jan 4th, 8:30 ET ESPN

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jwinslow said:
gant is only starting, and maybe playing, if bryant and one of the top 3 corners can't go.

Hankins plays as much if not more than goebel. All three backup dts log major minutes. The backup ends do not.
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and the final word on bryant is? probable at best, no?

i do not diagree hoankins plays more snaps than goebel but it is much more situational in nature, goalline, short yardage, running downs etc.
 
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NAZCARDAMUS;1830591; said:
Long time Hog fan and supporter here. I'm just gonna shoot from the hip on this one. First off, I hope OSU(like the last 6 teams we played did)overlooks our rushing game.
Kniles Davis, in only 8 games, has 1,183 yds and 13 td's.
Dan Herron, during the whole season, has 1,068 yds and 15 td's.
Edge=(With Davis only playing 8 games)Hogs

And putting all your emphasis on our passing game won't help anyway. That's what every team did and we beat all of them but two. Both of which we had at least a 10 point lead on.
R. Mallet, 3,592 yds, 30 td's, 11 INT, rating=170.5
T. Pryor, 2,551 yds, 25 td's, 11 INT, rating=158.0
Edge=Hogs

Receiving matchup? Lol, it's not even a matchup. But I'll post just for the fun of it.
ARK, 277 catches for 4,061 yds, and 34 td's.
OSU, 214 catches for 2,750 yds, and 28 td's.

I looked at the team to team stats of your loss to Wisconsin. Why you got beat? OSU had 5.6 yards per pass. WIS had 9.5 yards per pass. Also, you gave up 4.3 yards per rush to your 3.8. 3 of Wisconsin's 4 td's were rushing td's. Wisconsin kept you to 155 yards rushing that game.

Overview: OSU only played 3 top 25 teams all year, beating #12 Miami and #20 Iowa, and losing to #18 Wisconsin. OSU did not beat, let alone play anyone in the top 10 all season. ARK played 5 top 25 teams all season, losing to #1 ALA by 4 points and losing to #7 AUB. ARK beat #19 USC, #21 MISS ST, and #5 LSU. We beat the 5th ranked team in the country and you didn't even play anyone in the top 10 and you lost to #18. The only thing I see giving OSU an advantage is their defense, one of the best in the nation. Besides that, everything else leans in Arkansas' favor. If your D doesn't show up then it is going to be a long ride back to Ohio. That being said I think it's gong to be an awesome game. OSU is one of the most dominant teams in college history and a top tier football program. I have read alot of garbage on other forums and most OSU fans are basically blowing this game off and already celebrating a win. Keep in mind, that's the same thing LSU did before they rolled into Little Rock. Assume a win all you want. ARK has been tested harder than OSU. We are coming in with the 6th hardest schedule in the nation, 3rd in the nation in passing, a 10-2 record and we are still hyped up after beating #5 LSU. I see this game being an awesome battle. Two of the top passers in the game and two of the best offenses in the nation. This WILL be the bowl game of the year. Good luck to OSU, cheers to another great season, much respect, it's gonna be a great game and looking forward to playing the great OSU. And to those of you OSU fans already predicting a win; didn't you learn anything the last two times you predicted wins in the title games? I'll leave you and your team with one word: PREPARE
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Here's an instructive link that you may enjoy (link). It models the power for each team, without the silly "ignore the points difference" problem.

What is shows is that we have two pretty good teams. Only one team in the country has a defense that ranks at the level of Ohio State, Alabama. So, that may say something about your argument. Ohio State, on the other hand, has faced a lot of defenses as good or better than Arkansas.

Still looks like two pretty good teams to me and I'm quite happy to let them settle this on the field.
 
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It's really quite funny listening to all these arkansas fans.. I lived down there for a while and they really boarder on delusional when it comes to some things. Matt Jones was Tim Tebow before Tim tebow, was even Tim Tebow. They don't seem to realize that we average more points a game then they do, and we did that against better offenses. I don't care who you play, if you give up 65 points to a team (as arkansas did to auburn) then you have issues. They can throw out all these stats and thats fine.. If both teams the sugar bowl exactly to the stats, then OSU wins that game. Ps. I'd actually rather play Arkansas O than *ichigans O..
 
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kchogfan;1831014; said:
Petrino is not leaving. ...
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I completely agree.

kchogfan;1831014; said:
... "Florida would be a Lateral move" for him anyway.
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:slappy:

Arkansas has an excellent program, one filled with tradition. With that being said, any thought that Arkansas-to-Florida is a "lateral move" is delusional.

Ten years down the road, such a comment might be reasonable, but not now, not after The Pope has brought a couple of NCs to Gainesville.
 
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southcampus;1831097; said:
There is no final word right now but I can tell you he will be playing. Coulda gone against Michigan from a health standpoint.
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Agreed. I tweeted him on Mon or Tues night. Asked him if he was playing. (Barring some freak practice injury) He responded with "No Doubt".
 
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Coqui;1831013; said:
Did you know in 2006 Ohio State played 4 teams ranked #2 (or was it 3 teams, I can't remember)

Shows how much that matters.
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Three. Texas, Michigan, and Florida were all ranked #2 at the time of the game. Iowa was ranked #13 at the time of that contest.

Penn State was not ranked when OSU hosted them, but they did finish the season at #24 in the final AP poll.
 
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matcar;1831047; said:
While I get that this is our site and all and respect is due, I would point out that Arkansas is probably the best offensive unit that we'll face this year.
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Well -- not according to those darned NCAA statistics!
Arkansas comes in to the bowl game with the #10 rated offense.

In the last game played, without a full complement of Buckeye DBs (which DB corps may improve for this bowl game) they kept the #6 Offense in the land 150 yards below their average offensive output for the season, 27 points sub-par on scoring and won the battle of keep-away by about eight and a half minutes.

Setting aside those darned NCAA stats - the truth is that Arkansas has a very prolific offense which will provide a very stern test of the Buckeye D, but it is not per se the best - - statistically.
 
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MaxBuck;1831094; said:
Arkansas has an excellent program, one filled with tradition. With that being said, any thought that Arkansas-to-Florida is a "lateral move" is delusional.

Ten years down the road, such a comment might be reasonable, but not now, not after The Pope has brought a couple of NCs to Gainesville.
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I disagree. I don't think Arkansas could ever be as good of a job as Florida. I think Texas is far and away the top job for coaches and then Florida and USC (when not in hot water) are neck and neck for second.
 
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MaxBuck;1831094; said:
I completely agree.

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Arkansas has an excellent program, one filled with tradition. With that being said, any thought that Arkansas-to-Florida is a "lateral move" is delusional.

Ten years down the road, such a comment might be reasonable, but not now, not after The Pope has brought a couple of NCs to Gainesville.
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The "lateral move" quote was NOT by anyone with Arkansas connections. It was from the lead sports reporter from the Gainesville, Fla newspaper.
 
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sandgk;1831134; said:
Well -- not according to those darned NCAA statistics!
Arkansas comes in to the bowl game with the #10 rated offense.

In the last game played, without a full complement of Buckeye DBs (which DB corps may improve for this bowl game) they kept the #6 Offense in the land 150 yards below their average offensive output for the season, 27 points sub-par on scoring and won the battle of keep-away by about eight and a half minutes.

Setting aside those darned NCAA stats - the truth is that Arkansas has a very prolific offense which will provide a very stern test of the Buckeye D, but it is not per se the best - - statistically.
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Those stats ARE interesting. And perhaps things would have played out slightly differently had the major reason for TSUNs statistical averages been big enough to stay healthy for an entire game against the Bucks (but that's a story for another day). But I have to admit that I'm far more concerned about Arkansas offense than I ever was about Denard/TSUN.
 
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