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Sugar Bowl: #3 Ohio State 49, #2 Clemson 28, Jan 1 in New Orleans

I know early in the year, there were issues with WR drops. Is that still an issue?

OSU's secondary is very different from last year. Losing two 1st round corners hurts, but they miss their captain and good NFL starter Jordan Fuller even more (the fumble return that was cancelled). They also went most of two classes without quality CB recruits (1 year a pair of not-retained assistants didn't recruit a single one), and they lost Clark Phillips and Jordan Battle to recruiting flips.

In many ways, this defense is the opposite of last year.

'20 - position - '19
eh - DE - amazing (albeit just Chase)
elite - DT - solid/good
very good - LB - okay
weak - CB - amazing
eh - S - very good

How is the interior of the clemson OL? Etienne is a special athlete, but has been surprisingly average on the ground many games this year, to the point where the media has started listing his return yardage in his weekly yard totals to hide how mediocre his season was (which I attribute to the line)

It will be interesting to see how OSU deploys their personnel against Clemson. Their LBs are playing much better than last year as a unit, including throwback Tuf Borland, but he's overmatched against athletic RBs let alone a weapon like Etienne. OSU also has a good hybrid S/LB in Werner, but they may need him to slowdown Galloway.
Meanwhile there is still not an ounce of protection for defenders.

A ball carrier can take their head off (via facemask or targeting as a defender pulls up near the sideline). You can even blindside kill a defender on an INT return. Just don't do the targeting while blocking :roll1:

The running game definitely is less dominant than usual but I think the shift in the passing game(from outside to inside) has a lot to do with that. We did a great job running vs VT and ND though so hopefully thats figured out.
 
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PRESSER BULLETS: RYAN DAY, KEVIN WILSON, JUSTIN FIELDS AND OHIO STATE PLAYERS DISCUSS REMATCH WITH CLEMSON IN THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF

RYAN DAY
  • "The guys have overcome a lot this year. Now we have to finish the race."
  • On if he has any reservations about Justin Fields' thumb injury: "No, I think he'll be fine."
  • He notes Clemson is second in the country in sacks. "They've done it against just about everybody they've gone against." He says for the offensive line it comes down to preparation, understanding the patterns they've seen and knowing they'll face things they haven't seen before. The goal will be to anticipate rather than react.
  • On Brent Venables: "He's one of the best defensive coordinators in college football. He does a great job calling the game. Seems to know exactly what the other team's doing."
  • Day on dealing with COVID-19 this season, after Ohio State had more than 20 unavailable players for each of its last two games: “The people who missed practice in the last month alone here is staggering.” Said that puts more stress on the players who haven't missed practice.
  • Day says being at Ohio State has "been a blessing." He credits the people around him at the university and in the program with him being in this spot.
  • He says the lack of a lead-up time to the Sugar Bowl has led to less downtime than usual, and there's an inability to do much together other than practice. "We've taken a lot of precautions that way." He says it's just like another game rather than a typical bowl experience. "It's kind of a downer."
  • On Justin Fields' chance for redemption: "He left that field wanting another shot, and now he has another shot." Says Fields is not alone in that feeling. "We asked for that opportunity, and now we've got to go."
  • Day said Ohio State has gotten “a bunch” of players back to practice this week who will hopefully be able to play on Friday.
  • Day says "bad things happen" when you aren't calling things aggressively. He thinks being aggressive can both mean passing the ball and not doing so.
  • He says the red-zone offense and kicking field goals were issues last year against Clemson.
  • Day says this game is about all of these players getting back to where they started after losing to Clemson a year ago rather than a statement about where this program stands in the national landscape.
  • "Everything about this season is different, from the amount of games we've played to all of the above."
  • "One thing that happens a little bit at Ohio State is people want you to win a certain way here." He says just winning the game will be important rather than winning in a certain way. "If you win the game, you move on, and that's what matters."
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...cuss-the-buckeyes-rematch-with-clemson-in-the

Ryan Day's full answer when asked about Clemson defensive coordinator Brent Venables:

EqWpy1WWMAAJBEL


Re: Seems to know exactly what the other team's doing.".....:lol:

Just sayin': Clemson is recognized as being "a master" at stealing signs.

Follow the Signs: How Clemson Football Mastered the (Totally Legal) Art of Signal Stealing

A month ago, Miami offensive coordinator Rhett Lashlee said the quiet part out loud. He was asked on a Zoom call about Clemson’s reputation for stealing an opponent’s offensive signals that are used to relay play calls from the sidelines, and he met the question head on.

“Clemson is known well for doing it,” Lashlee said.
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Let’s throw this out there: If you ask around college football, you’ll hear that stealing signals can be as much a part of the game as blocking and tackling. It is a commonplace means of trying to gain a pre-snap advantage. But after talking to coaches and staff members at half a dozen teams that have played Clemson in recent years, here are the three responses that follow:
  • Knowing laughter.
  • An acknowledgement that the Tigers are an elite signal-swiping program.
  • “That’s off the record.”
This isn’t the first time the topic has arisen. In its 2017 college football preview magazine, Athlon Sports quoted an anonymous coach saying, “They’ll steal your signals. … It’s not a very well-kept secret.” A year earlier, head coach Dabo Swinney tacitly acknowledged the hustle in a story in the Raleigh News & Observer, saying, “You’re in a competition. You’re competing and you want to get every edge that you can. If you have an opponent who’s basically screaming out, ‘Hey, we’re running the ball,’ well, that’s an advantage.”
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As for Clemson: Venables is a notably late defensive play-caller, usually waiting to see how the offense lines up and then firing off his own signals and calls in the few seconds he has before the ball is snapped. The coaches who spoke to SI for this story attributed that to waiting for information from his code breakers.
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Entire article: https://www.si.com/college/2020/11/06/clemson-signal-stealing-dabo-swinney-daily-cover
 
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PRESSER BULLETS: DABO SWINNEY AND BRENT VENABLES DISCUSS RANKING OHIO STATE 11TH, CLEMSON'S UPCOMING SUGAR BOWL MATCHUP WITH BUCKEYES

DABO SWINNEY

  • On the Sugar Bowl: "It's getting close. This is kind of a Wednesday (preparation-wise) for us here in Clemson. I think it's a Monday everywhere else." Says it's a chance for Clemson to win a Sugar Bowl, which has never happened before.
  • On voting Ohio State 11th in his poll: "It's a big deal because we're having to play them. There's no question Ohio State is good enough to beat us. They're good enough to beat any of these four. They're good enough to be a national champion." He says he didn't rank anybody in the top-10 who played fewer than nine games. "I have all the respect in the world for Ohio State." Says he thinks the world of Ryan Day. "There's really nothing to it. ... You could change the name to anybody." He says he wouldn't have had USC in the playoff either if they were 6-0. "I just don't think it's right that three teams have to win 13 games to be the champion and one has to win eight."
  • In defending voting Ohio State 11th "I voted them in 2017 for the same reason. I left Alabama out. And guess who was mad at me then? Alabama people."
  • “To me, right is right. It's not always easy to do the right thing.”
  • Based on his ballot... "I could probably run for governor in Michigan and have a good chance. Probably not as popular in Ohio."
  • He doesn't have an update on defensive lineman Xavier Thomas and whether he'll play in the Sugar Bowl. "We're not going to say anything about anybody until game day."
  • On Justin Fields: "He's going to be a top-two pick, a top-three pick. I can't imagine he wouldn't be. It's another year in the system. He's just a dangerous guy. He's got great confidence in what they're doing." He says Fields "creates a lot of conflict" in defending them due to his ability to run.
  • On Ohio State's wide receivers: "Those guys are as good as you're going to see."
  • Swinney says "there's not a moment too big for Trevor Lawrence." Mentions a lot of people will be trying to live up to the standard that he set.
  • On the Heisman Trophy: "It's a stat-, media-driven award." He says Lawrence is the "epitome of the Heisman." ... "This has been the best he's been. He's 34-1 or whatever as a starter."
  • How this Clemson team compares to past Clemson teams that made the playoff: "Similar. Every team's kind of had a different path. I've never really had a team that's had the challenges of this team." Says they have "great quarterback play" and "some explosive skill."
  • On Ohio State's secondary scheme this season compared to last year: "Very similar, and why would it not be." He says the Buckeyes have played a tad more two-safety looks this season.
  • On Tommy Togiai and Haskell Garrett: "Those D-tackles are really good players."
  • On Ohio State's defense: "They're a really, really good football team. Built in the trenches. Built in the front seven. Built to stop the run."
  • He says the sacrifices made by Clemson are "unprecedented," and what they've had to sacrifice to play is "incredible." ... "The teams that manage this the best, that's who's going to finish the best."
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...iew-ohio-state-clemson-showdown-in-sugar-bowl
 
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Here's 1 of the 10:

LT JACKSON CARMAN

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Those will follow Ohio State recruiting closely are already plenty familiar with Carman, as the five-star offensive tackle from Fairfield, Ohio, was a major Ohio State target before he ultimately decided to sign with Clemson.

Ohio State bounced back from that recruiting loss just fine, signing Nicholas Petit-Frere instead, but for the second year in a row, the Buckeyes will now have to face Carman, who earned second-team All-ACC honors this year as Clemson’s left tackle.

Now Clemson’s most experienced starting offensive lineman, he’s also the Tigers’ best offensive lineman. A great athlete for his size at 6-foot-5 and 335 pounds, Carman is both a powerful run blocker and a strong pass blocker on Lawrence’s blind side. He’ll be one of the best offensive tackles Ohio State’s defensive ends have faced all season.
 
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PRESSER BULLETS: RYAN DAY, KEVIN WILSON, JUSTIN FIELDS AND OHIO STATE PLAYERS DISCUSS REMATCH WITH CLEMSON IN THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF

RYAN DAY
  • "The guys have overcome a lot this year. Now we have to finish the race."
  • On if he has any reservations about Justin Fields' thumb injury: "No, I think he'll be fine."
  • He notes Clemson is second in the country in sacks. "They've done it against just about everybody they've gone against." He says for the offensive line it comes down to preparation, understanding the patterns they've seen and knowing they'll face things they haven't seen before. The goal will be to anticipate rather than react.
  • On Brent Venables: "He's one of the best defensive coordinators in college football. He does a great job calling the game. Seems to know exactly what the other team's doing."
  • Day on dealing with COVID-19 this season, after Ohio State had more than 20 unavailable players for each of its last two games: “The people who missed practice in the last month alone here is staggering.” Said that puts more stress on the players who haven't missed practice.
  • Day says being at Ohio State has "been a blessing." He credits the people around him at the university and in the program with him being in this spot.
  • He says the lack of a lead-up time to the Sugar Bowl has led to less downtime than usual, and there's an inability to do much together other than practice. "We've taken a lot of precautions that way." He says it's just like another game rather than a typical bowl experience. "It's kind of a downer."
  • On Justin Fields' chance for redemption: "He left that field wanting another shot, and now he has another shot." Says Fields is not alone in that feeling. "We asked for that opportunity, and now we've got to go."
  • Day said Ohio State has gotten “a bunch” of players back to practice this week who will hopefully be able to play on Friday.
  • Day says "bad things happen" when you aren't calling things aggressively. He thinks being aggressive can both mean passing the ball and not doing so.
  • He says the red-zone offense and kicking field goals were issues last year against Clemson.
  • Day says this game is about all of these players getting back to where they started after losing to Clemson a year ago rather than a statement about where this program stands in the national landscape.
  • "Everything about this season is different, from the amount of games we've played to all of the above."
  • "One thing that happens a little bit at Ohio State is people want you to win a certain way here." He says just winning the game will be important rather than winning in a certain way. "If you win the game, you move on, and that's what matters."
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...cuss-the-buckeyes-rematch-with-clemson-in-the

Ryan Day's full answer when asked about Clemson defensive coordinator Brent Venables:

EqWpy1WWMAAJBEL


Re: Seems to know exactly what the other team's doing.".....:lol:

Just sayin': Clemson is recognized as being "a master" at stealing signs.

Follow the Signs: How Clemson Football Mastered the (Totally Legal) Art of Signal Stealing

A month ago, Miami offensive coordinator Rhett Lashlee said the quiet part out loud. He was asked on a Zoom call about Clemson’s reputation for stealing an opponent’s offensive signals that are used to relay play calls from the sidelines, and he met the question head on.

“Clemson is known well for doing it,” Lashlee said.
.
.
.
Let’s throw this out there: If you ask around college football, you’ll hear that stealing signals can be as much a part of the game as blocking and tackling. It is a commonplace means of trying to gain a pre-snap advantage. But after talking to coaches and staff members at half a dozen teams that have played Clemson in recent years, here are the three responses that follow:
  • Knowing laughter.
  • An acknowledgement that the Tigers are an elite signal-swiping program.
  • “That’s off the record.”
This isn’t the first time the topic has arisen. In its 2017 college football preview magazine, Athlon Sports quoted an anonymous coach saying, “They’ll steal your signals. … It’s not a very well-kept secret.” A year earlier, head coach Dabo Swinney tacitly acknowledged the hustle in a story in the Raleigh News & Observer, saying, “You’re in a competition. You’re competing and you want to get every edge that you can. If you have an opponent who’s basically screaming out, ‘Hey, we’re running the ball,’ well, that’s an advantage.”
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.
.
As for Clemson: Venables is a notably late defensive play-caller, usually waiting to see how the offense lines up and then firing off his own signals and calls in the few seconds he has before the ball is snapped. The coaches who spoke to SI for this story attributed that to waiting for information from his code breakers.
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continued

Entire article: https://www.si.com/college/2020/11/06/clemson-signal-stealing-dabo-swinney-daily-cover
The only notable thing about this is the claim that Clemson/Venables are somehow better at capturing and deciphering their opponents play calling signs than most everyone else is. If that's true, I hope the OSU staff figures out how to prevent it, and also how to do it.
 
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CLEMSON NOTEBOOK: TIGERS AND OHIO STATE HAVE “BLOOD IN THE WATER,” DEFENDING JUSTIN FIELDS, NOLAN TURNER TO MISS FIRST HALF

“BLOOD IN THE WATER”

Is Ohio State-Clemson a rivalry? Yes or no? That’s been a topic of conversation among some for the past couple of weeks given their history, especially coming off of last year’s 29-23 Tigers win in the Fiesta Bowl.

A week ago, Swinney made the case as to why he thinks the Buckeyes are “absolutely” a rival of his program, saying it has “some type of meaning” every time the two teams meet. Baylon Spector, a redshirt junior linebacker who earned AP second-team All-ACC honors, agrees with his head coach.

To him, the Buckeyes have ascended to that status.

“We know what's on stage and the caliber of the game and what type of team they are,” Spector said. “We'll be ready. Obviously we've played them now five or six times. We'll be ready. It's definitely a rivalry. We've played them a lot and we're excited.”

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...ding-justin-fields-nolan-turner-to-miss-first
 
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PRESSER BULLETS: RYAN DAY, KEVIN WILSON, JUSTIN FIELDS AND OHIO STATE PLAYERS DISCUSS REMATCH WITH CLEMSON IN THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF

RYAN DAY
  • "The guys have overcome a lot this year. Now we have to finish the race."
  • On if he has any reservations about Justin Fields' thumb injury: "No, I think he'll be fine."
  • He notes Clemson is second in the country in sacks. "They've done it against just about everybody they've gone against." He says for the offensive line it comes down to preparation, understanding the patterns they've seen and knowing they'll face things they haven't seen before. The goal will be to anticipate rather than react.
  • On Brent Venables: "He's one of the best defensive coordinators in college football. He does a great job calling the game. Seems to know exactly what the other team's doing."
  • Day on dealing with COVID-19 this season, after Ohio State had more than 20 unavailable players for each of its last two games: “The people who missed practice in the last month alone here is staggering.” Said that puts more stress on the players who haven't missed practice.
  • Day says being at Ohio State has "been a blessing." He credits the people around him at the university and in the program with him being in this spot.
  • He says the lack of a lead-up time to the Sugar Bowl has led to less downtime than usual, and there's an inability to do much together other than practice. "We've taken a lot of precautions that way." He says it's just like another game rather than a typical bowl experience. "It's kind of a downer."
  • On Justin Fields' chance for redemption: "He left that field wanting another shot, and now he has another shot." Says Fields is not alone in that feeling. "We asked for that opportunity, and now we've got to go."
  • Day said Ohio State has gotten “a bunch” of players back to practice this week who will hopefully be able to play on Friday.
  • Day says "bad things happen" when you aren't calling things aggressively. He thinks being aggressive can both mean passing the ball and not doing so.
  • He says the red-zone offense and kicking field goals were issues last year against Clemson.
  • Day says this game is about all of these players getting back to where they started after losing to Clemson a year ago rather than a statement about where this program stands in the national landscape.
  • "Everything about this season is different, from the amount of games we've played to all of the above."
  • "One thing that happens a little bit at Ohio State is people want you to win a certain way here." He says just winning the game will be important rather than winning in a certain way. "If you win the game, you move on, and that's what matters."
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...cuss-the-buckeyes-rematch-with-clemson-in-the

Ryan Day's full answer when asked about Clemson defensive coordinator Brent Venables:

EqWpy1WWMAAJBEL


Re: Seems to know exactly what the other team's doing.".....:lol:

Just sayin': Clemson is recognized as being "a master" at stealing signs.

Follow the Signs: How Clemson Football Mastered the (Totally Legal) Art of Signal Stealing

A month ago, Miami offensive coordinator Rhett Lashlee said the quiet part out loud. He was asked on a Zoom call about Clemson’s reputation for stealing an opponent’s offensive signals that are used to relay play calls from the sidelines, and he met the question head on.

“Clemson is known well for doing it,” Lashlee said.
.
.
.
Let’s throw this out there: If you ask around college football, you’ll hear that stealing signals can be as much a part of the game as blocking and tackling. It is a commonplace means of trying to gain a pre-snap advantage. But after talking to coaches and staff members at half a dozen teams that have played Clemson in recent years, here are the three responses that follow:
  • Knowing laughter.
  • An acknowledgement that the Tigers are an elite signal-swiping program.
  • “That’s off the record.”
This isn’t the first time the topic has arisen. In its 2017 college football preview magazine, Athlon Sports quoted an anonymous coach saying, “They’ll steal your signals. … It’s not a very well-kept secret.” A year earlier, head coach Dabo Swinney tacitly acknowledged the hustle in a story in the Raleigh News & Observer, saying, “You’re in a competition. You’re competing and you want to get every edge that you can. If you have an opponent who’s basically screaming out, ‘Hey, we’re running the ball,’ well, that’s an advantage.”
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.
.
As for Clemson: Venables is a notably late defensive play-caller, usually waiting to see how the offense lines up and then firing off his own signals and calls in the few seconds he has before the ball is snapped. The coaches who spoke to SI for this story attributed that to waiting for information from his code breakers.
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.
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continued

Entire article: https://www.si.com/college/2020/11/06/clemson-signal-stealing-dabo-swinney-daily-cover

11W does an article on Clemson's sign stealing and even references the SI article:



Some coaches even went on the record in the Sports Illustrated article. Rhett Lashlee, Miami’s offensive coordinator, said Clemson is “known well for doing it,” and Notre Dame head coach Brian Kelly said “you have to be cognizant of it and aware of it,” mentioning that his team was looking at alternatives such as wristbands.

Day didn’t go quite as far as Lashlee and Kelly, preferring not to talk openly about it by mentioning Clemson’s signal-stealing. But it wasn’t too difficult to pick up the inferences he made.

He and Venables are now intensely familiar with each other. A year ago, they met in the Fiesta Bowl semifinal where the Tigers pulled off a 29-23 victory that haunted the Buckeyes in the immediate aftermath and motivated them to get back to the point where they’re once again slated to meet up in the College Football Playoff a year later.

Perhaps even more so than Day, offensive coordinator Kevin Wilson has a handle on Venables and the Clemson defense. Wilson worked with Venables on Bob Stoops’ Oklahoma staff from 2002 to 2010, with those two then-Sooners coordinating their respective sides of the ball.

“Having worked with coach Venables for nine years, I know the way he coaches, the way he teaches, the way he leads those guys, the way his kids play, the way their defense plays,” Wilson said on Monday. “So you've got your hands full.”
 
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2020 is indeed a strange year. Not 1 but 2 reasonable Clemson fans posting good takes.

Stick around @HvilleTigerfan and welcome back @CJspillah
Thanks. There are a quite a bit of us normal tiger fans around but like every fan base we get overshadowed by the loud obnoxious minority. Our success the past 10 years has only made them louder.
 
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Sugar huddle with the line in place to affect Venables late D calls and use hurry up more often to catch them out of position.

Not a lot to do on Defense other than get pressure with the front 4 and stop the run including Lawrence. Going to be a tough game
 
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