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Star Wars (May the Force be with you)

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Also, this is amazing:

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jwinslow said:
Just got back. The wife got me an early Christmas present to see it on the ultrascreen in 3D (still not sold on that) in the recliners (pretty sweet). She's a keeper :)

As always, JJ Abrams is a brilliant man. The movie was not an all-time great but it was pretty darn good and comes well recommended. Most important of all, it captured the essence of the force and showcased everything that has captivated many generations (even with a long layoff and botched prequels).

p.s. The nerd out factor was pretty high when the movie uses the same sounds and "maps" from the Battlefront video game.
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saw it in both 3D and standard HD screens...thought the 3D was better. just my preference.
 
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jwinslow said:
I liked that reboot quite a bit, but neither as much as fringe. The wife really liked revolution and while I haven't seen it, folks lost their minds over lost.
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Also enjoyed the new Star Trek movies, but then I never really was into Trek before then, and still only enjoy the two as really good popcorn flicks. Lost is legit. I recently watched the show again, because Netflix. Just as good as watching it originally.
 
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jwinslow said:
I liked that reboot quite a bit, but neither as much as fringe. The wife really liked revolution and while I haven't seen it, folks lost their minds over lost.
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I loved Lost & Fringe although the last couple of seasons of both got little off track (which is not uncommon for those type of shows).

I like Cloverfield & Super 8 also, but neither is genius. They're both workmanlike efforts.

muffler dragon said:
I don't even know you anymore. :sad:
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The reboots are a parody of the original films. He tried to turn into what was essentially Horatio Hornblower meets The Voyage of The Beagle in space into a Michael Bay film. The original series/movies etc were about exploring social issues with a healthy dose of science (often bad science, but still). They were legitimate Science Fiction. JJs reboot is just noise, explosions & lens flare.

While I generally like the casting. The scripts are terrible and Karl Urban is the only member of the cast who realizes he's in a parody.

And that is being generous, I still have a suspicion that Abrams intentionally planned to destroy Star Trek with his films. He's on the record saying he doesn't actually like the franchise.

His films are the most blatant slap in the face since Verhoeven shit on Starship Troopers.
 
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@Muck I understand what you're saying. And I've been edumacated on the finer points of the original Star Trek series. Admittedly, I wasn't much of a viewer of the series, and therefore, the action of these remakes is what I enjoy. Granted, the depth isn't there; however, I still find them just enjoyable. And like I've said many times, I enjoy the way that JJ does a film; therefore, I don't mind his interpretations. My statement was more in jest, because I had a premonition that what you wrote above was your beef with his revisions. :wink:
 
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muffler dragon said:
@Muck I understand what you're saying. And I've been edumacated on the finer points of the original Star Trek series. Admittedly, I wasn't much of a viewer of the series, and therefore, the action of these remakes is what I enjoy. Granted, the depth isn't there; however, I still find them just enjoyable. And like I've said many times, I enjoy the way that JJ does a film; therefore, I don't mind his interpretations. My statement was more in jest, because I had a premonition that what you wrote above was your beef with his revisions. :wink:
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The funny thing is that I'm not really a huge fan of Star Trek. I'm firmly in the Star Wars generation. My favorite Star Trek film after Wrath of Khan is Galaxy Quest.
 
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Muck said:
I loved Lost & Fringe although the last couple of seasons of both got little off track (which is not uncommon for those type of shows).

I like Cloverfield & Super 8 also, but neither is genius. They're both workmanlike efforts.
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Maybe the word brilliant was a bit much, but I always really enjoy his work. I don't know if the star trek reboot should have been a scientific exploration (nor do I think it would have fared well as such), but it was a lot of fun and the cast was great. I had a similar experience with this one. Neither were all time greats but definitely worth watching and rewatching. Fringe (and I'm assuming lost) were rare air for TV shows, and the greatness was so high that losing their step a bit is inevitable.
The reboots are a parody of the original films. He tried to turn into what was essentially Horatio Hornblower meets The Voyage of The Beagle in space into a Michael Bay film. The original series/movies etc were about exploring social issues with a healthy dose of science (often bad science, but still). They were legitimate Science Fiction. JJs reboot is just noise, explosions & lens flare.
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The originals were also very dull in places that would not work today.
While I generally like the casting. The scripts are terrible and Karl Urban is the only member of the cast who realizes he's in a parody.
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Simon Pegg certainly realizes it. Pine doesn't really take himself seriously, and original kirk was a walking caricature.
And that is being generous, I still have a suspicion that Abrams intentionally planned to destroy Star Trek with his films. He's on the record saying he doesn't actually like the franchise.

His films are the most blatant slap in the face since Verhoeven [Mark May] on Starship Troopers.
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Does this apply to both series? Or are we largely discussing Star Trek here?
 
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