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Game Thread Southern Cal 18, at tOSU 15 (Sept 12th, 8 pm, ESPN)

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Anyway, (and I know you don't really give a s*** what they say) there is much less negativity and the general consensus that you were the better team all night with an advantage, seeing as USC had a frosh playing in front of 106,000 maniacs, but that your decision not to kick the long FG and the 2 minute drive as Chinese fire drill was your undoing.
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Would you say that's different from the talk going into this game?
 
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Gatorubet;1542109; said:
Yeah. Insert generic slow big 10 teams about to rolled by USC comments.

USC is seen as the four deep 5 star athlete program with interchangeable star athletes.
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And its sorta true because what high school star doesn't want to go to a school that no matter what it seems will go to the Rose Bowl ( weak Pac-10) and they are in California. this means that since they are like the only football team really in the area they are superstars and can basically be treated like that.
 
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I've waited until now to post anything on this one. Thought about going back and pasting posts from after the Texas, Florida and LSU games, but this one really was different. I know that we're tOSU and moral victories are simply that. I won't even follow that trail, but we do have to start somewhere to get back to the elite level where we belong. Saturday night was a good start. Not preferable, but certainly better than recent games.

This one wasn't a meltdown and lets us keep building. I think this team will get better throughout the season and will, to use an old Southern-ism, "do us proud" in whatever BCS game we wind up playing. Always a Buckeye.
 
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I tend to agree with LJB, we sorely missed Moeller on usc's last drive. We had our three "base" backers in.(Homan , Spitler, Rolle) If we had Moeller, Spitler or Homan is on the bench and we have a much more versatile player in the ball game that matches up much better in coverage with McKnight. Its nit picking and who knows what would have happened but I think Moeller would have given us a better chance.
 
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Bucks21;1542121; said:
I tend to agree with LJB, we sorely missed Moeller on usc's last drive. We had our three "base" backers in.(Homan , Spitler, Rolle) If we had Moeller, Spitler or Homan is on the bench and we have a much more versatile player in the ball game that matches up much better in coverage with McKnight. Its nit picking and who knows what would have happened but I think Moeller would have given us a better chance.
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I call horseshit. We held them all game.
 
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BigJim;1542083; said:
Those are examples of one-time plays that could have gone either way. Moeller is an example that would have played itself out over the course of the game and would have an impact again if they were to replay the game. Big difference.
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OK, think of the times the Bucks failed to make 3rd and short, were they just a left tackle away from winning? What if USC had had Corp available? If Malcom Jenkins were the corner would Heacock have Holman on McKnight?

Holman played a hell of a game, but putting a linebacker on a fast RB is a chance you sometimes have to take, a one play situation if you will; just like the whiff on the punt and the dropped interception, and you sometimes get burned on that one play. If anything I think it says volumes about Barkley that he saw it, reacted to it and then threw the ball right where it had to be at a critical moment of the game. That's one hell of a freshman performance.
 
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cincibuck;1542194; said:
OK, think of the times the Bucks failed to make 3rd and short, were they just a left tackle away from winning? What if USC had had Corp available? If Malcom Jenkins were the corner would Heacock have Holman on McKnight?

Holman played a hell of a game, but putting a linebacker on a fast RB is a chance you sometimes have to take, a one play situation if you will; just like the whiff on the punt and the dropped interception, and you sometimes get burned on that one play. If anything I think it says volumes about Barkley that he saw it, reacted to it and then threw the ball right where it had to be at a critical moment of the game. That's one hell of a freshman performance.
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There is not a left tackle that was in the mix up until a few months ago unless you count Adams, and I don't know that he would be starting either way. I don't think Corp would have played even if he never got hurt. Jenkins was a senior last year.
 
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Bucks21;1542121; said:
I tend to agree with LJB, we sorely missed Moeller on usc's last drive. We had our three "base" backers in.(Homan , Spitler, Rolle) If we had Moeller, Spitler or Homan is on the bench and we have a much more versatile player in the ball game that matches up much better in coverage with McKnight. Its nit picking and who knows what would have happened but I think Moeller would have given us a better chance.
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yes, you are nitpicking. alot. we held usc to 11 points. you can hardly fault the d for the first td when we spotted usc the 2 yrd line. expecially with it taking 4 downs and a questionable call to get it.

would moeller have provided better containment on mcknight? oh probably. but what that d accomplished that night including spitler and homan was flat out special. anytime you hold the opposing team to 20 points or less, the d did their job. imo trying to find a reason for the loss on the defensive side of the ball is a little misguided.
 
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LordJeffBuck;1542249; said:
Yeah, but maybe not a 22-yard gain on third-and-nine mismatch....
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He caught the ball 3 yards from the sticks, he probably picks up that first down anyway, or they sneak it on 4th.

At some point you have to tip your cap to a playmaker, particularly after what he did on the previous play.
 
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Can't play the what if game because it would never end.

What if Mike Adams had come on like we thought?

The game came down to the offense, the coaches and Terrelle Pryor not being able to get it done. It's really that simple. The offense scored 13 points. That's ridiculous. As well as the D played that's how bad the O was. It was a great game, but the O did little more than they did last year if we're being honest.

Duron Carter was wide open when USC blitzed during that abortion that was passed off as a two minute drill. TP has some maturing to do as a QB before the offense can go anywhere this season.
 
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