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Smart Car to US...Finally!

MililaniBuckeye;1168140; said:
Nuclear power was just under 20% (19.4%) and hydroelectric power was 7.0%.

Given the resistance to nukuler (heh) can you imagine how the greenies would react to a proposal for major construction of hydro plants in domestic waterways. :O

(That's not counting some of the ocean hydro proposals, which the greenies don't like either)
 
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martinss01;1167967; said:
as is ford and chevy supposedly. though ive heard ford has already scrapped their concept which was being built off the euro land rover engine. estimated fuel economy on that was something like 31 to 44mpg depending on whose reports you believe. i haven't heard anything about diesel recently which is a tad dissapointing. have you?

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How about this VW Hybrid diesel Golf that debuted in Germany this past March - 69.6 MPG? The local news is VW is coming to the USA to build their cars - Sites selections may be in Michigan or Tennessee

Revealed: Volkswagen's 69.9-MPG Diesel Hybrid | Autopia from Wired.com
 
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Best Buckeye;1168248; said:
There is a man in Toledo, A UT professor I think, that processes his own fuel from used cooking oil he scrounges from restaurants and a little gas and he runs his car on that , has for years.

This guy? :tongue2:

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Picture a cross-country road trip powered by vegetable oil in a 1981 Mercedes-Benz.
Interviews include Morgan Freeman, co-director of Earth Biofuels, along with Noam Chomsky, Yoko Ono, and Tommy Chong.
Additional appearances include the founders of the four major vegetable oil conversion kit companies, Greasecar, Greasel, Neoteric, and Frybrid, as they discuss the reality of vegetable oil as a fuel.
 
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Taosman;1168115; said:
California is a huge user of energy. Nukes and natural gas and wind and solar, could all be positioned in the Mojave Desert to supply energy to So Cal. Bad idea to put nukes in So Cal(populations). You could do them safer in the desert areas. Wind and solar need space. Desert also. Natural gas is were you find it.

taos, im not argueing that these things can't physically happen. i asked simply if you thought with the current policies of thos country that nuke is possible at this time. i personally do not think it is. not because of any issue with the technology. but because its pretty difficult to tell the world they can't have nuke plants for fear of them making bombs, but we can build an extra 20 or so...

MililaniBuckeye;1168140; said:
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Nuclear power was just under 20% (19.4%) and hydroelectric power was 7.0%. That's 26.4% of our power being generated by "clean" sources. Now, I'm not sure how "clean" natural gas is, but at 20.0% of total produced power, if it were twice as "clean" (or half as "dirty") as coal and pertroleum sources, that's an equivilent of another 10% "clean" energy. Thus, there's a 36.4% (guesstimate) chance that an electric vehicle would be charged by a "clean" source, thus having a net pollution footprint of zero.

yeah, 19.4% for nuke is close to what i was thinking. problem is, 37% isn't a very good % in my mind. expecially when you factor in what region you are talking about. hydro is very limited to geography, not to mention tends to be fairly disruptive to the local ecosystem. nuke is great and all, but i don't see its use being increased significantly without a serious shift in foriegn policy.

utgrad73;1168240; said:
How about this VW Hybrid diesel Golf that debuted in Germany this past March - 69.6 MPG? The local news is VW is coming to the USA to build their cars - Sites selections may be in Michigan or Tennessee

Revealed: Volkswagen's 69.9-MPG Diesel Hybrid | Autopia from Wired.com

oh it wouldn't surprise me one bit that a 70mpg vehicle is made right here in the usa. it would shock the hell out of me if it were actually made available to us consumers in the next 5 years. like i said in a previous post, the tech is absolutely there. but for some reason car manufacturers don't seem to think we are interested.

Best Buckeye;1168248; said:
There is a man in Toledo, A UT professor I think, that processes his own fuel from used cooking oil he scrounges from restaurants and a little gas and he runs his car on that , has for years.

thats bio diesel. don't suppose you know him. if you do could you ask him how he keeps it from gelling in the winter? im guessing he is using either a fuel line heater or tank heater or both. that or he's using 2 fuel tanks. one with straight diesel the other with bio. im also curious about his brewing setup. whether he went with an appleseed or if he bought one of the commerical setups and how well he likes it.
 
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martinss01;1168643; said:
hydro is very limited to geography, not to mention tends to be fairly disruptive to the local ecosystem.

Stiil, hydro serves large metro areas (Hoover serves LA and Las Vegas) along with entire states (Nevada, Arizona), and LA is a great example of a city that would most benefit from electric vehicles.
 
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martinss01;1168643; said:
taos, im not argueing that these things can't physically happen. i asked simply if you thought with the current policies of thos country that nuke is possible at this time. i personally do not think it is. not because of any issue with the technology. but because its pretty difficult to tell the world they can't have nuke plants for fear of them making bombs, but we can build an extra 20 or so...

I don't really think that is the case at all. The fuel & waste from a modern light water plant is virtually impossible to weaponize.

The issue with nuclear proliferation has never been nations building modern commercial plants...it's when they start building enrichments plants & heavy water "research" reactors that give them the ability to make P-239.

Remember that we've offered to build modern reactors in North Korea and just this week offered to provide fuel for proposed plants in Saudi Arabia.
 
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Taosman;1168324; said:
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Produced and Directed by:
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Picture a cross-country road trip powered by vegetable oil in a 1981 Mercedes-Benz.
Interviews include Morgan Freeman, co-director of Earth Biofuels, along with Noam Chomsky, Yoko Ono, and Tommy Chong.
Additional appearances include the founders of the four major vegetable oil conversion kit companies, Greasecar, Greasel, Neoteric, and Frybrid, as they discuss the reality of vegetable oil as a fuel.

Kinda like Bucket List meets Cheech and Chong, LOS COCHINOS. Don't forget Vin Diesel.
 

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BuckeyeRyn;713146; said:
So, the speedometer registers to 150. Is there really anyway in hell that thing will stay in one piece much about 40? I have this vision of it, on the freeway, side panels and such start flying off.

I'm going to have to pass on that..


I'll stick with my CAR (not minivan, lol.) :biggrin:

I agree 100%! That thing will self destruct on impact!
Your legs will be hanging out the front of the hood & your neck will be sticking out of the gas tank.
I'll keep my 25-35 MPG Chevy HHR thanks!
 
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elliemae;1494352; said:
I agree 100%! That thing will self destruct on impact!
Your legs will be hanging out the front of the hood & your neck will be sticking out of the gas tank.
I'll keep my 25-35 MPG Chevy HHR thanks!
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NFBuck;1354809; said:
Drive a PT Cruiser or a Chevy HHR.

iambrutus;1356851; said:
thats the wife's rental car while her trailblazer is being fixed, what a POS

NFBuck;1356852; said:
Also known as a "Homo Hot Rod".

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