-
Follow us on Twitter @buckeyeplanet and @bp_recruiting, like us on Facebook! Enjoy a post or article, recommend it to others! BP is only as strong as its community, and we only promote by word of mouth, so share away!
- Thread starter TRON
- Start date
OSU_D/
COYBIG, COYG
LOL if you don't know about the Blue Wall media here in this shitty state. Led by the buffoon and sycophant Bob Wojnowski, who can't fathom ever saying anything negative about the university and its athletics, Harbaugh has plenty of media cover for years.
I know you love your (overrated) city, but nothing from Chicago has any standing here. You wouldn't even know he played for the Bears based on the Blue media. And people here won't give 2 shits about any news report from Chicago.
Upvote
0
Honestly, I think all this win now is total bs. That's my personal opinion which doesn't line up with other people. I can only speak for myself, but I'm in the crowd that says he does not have to beat his rivals or go to a major bowl in his first 2 seasons. If he does, that's great but this program is in such a mess that it's going to take a few years to get it up to speed. A lot of fans I talk to share the same opinion. Of course we have retards that will expect immediate results but that's just what it is.
I can see the Michigan "uppers" being patient with Jim Harbaugh and letting him do what he wants compared to past coaches. The main question everybody reading this will probably ask is why. I'll tell you why. Who the fuck are we going to get that is better than Harbaugh? If Michigan is still shitty after 3 or 4 years, who in the hell are we going to get to replace Harbaugh? This guy is the best coach we could get. This guy will probably still be the best coach we could have in 4 years. As far as I'm concerned, Harbaugh can stay here as long as he wants to fix this mess. He has a track record of rebuilding teams so I'm very excited about the possibility. Win or lose I know our teams aren't going to be soft anymore. The "country club atmosphere" is gone.
I don't see him getting fired unless he can't play nicely with the Michigan "uppers" which I don't see that happening. Does he go back to the NFL? Hell I don't know. People said he would get fired at Stanford or why in the world would he take that job. People said he wouldn't be successful in the NFL. People, including myself, said he wouldn't come to Michigan. Nobody knows what the fuck this guy will do. He may run for President or start a rap group. I do know that the longer he is here, the better the football program will be. I hope.
Upvote
0
ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Chicago is the media hub of the Big Ten, with a huge Michigan alumni presence in the city and a big pipeline for full-ticket out-of-state students. If Harbaugh implodes, it'll get harsh coverage in Chicago, and the UM administration will take note of it. Nobody cares if Joe Michigan cares. Their administration, however, will. And to my understanding, the Free Press was pretty harsh on DickRod and Hoke when they floundered. Throw in the possibility of Harbaugh going off the rails psychologically, and I doubt the Free Press is going to walk away from that story.
I wish Chicago was overrated. Perhaps then, it wouldn't be crawling with economic refugees from Michigan. If it gets any worse, we're going to have to build refugee camps for them down on the SW side.
Last edited:
Upvote
0
ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
I think the admins will be patient with him, as will most of the alumni. I think he's too crazy to be patient with himself, and if he starts melting down, it'll force the administration to deal with the problem. All it'll take is one reporter pressing him after a bad loss for the crazy to come roaring out. Hell, he's enjoying the mother of all honeymoons right now, and still seems like he could lose it at any moment. What happens when Sparty hangs 40 on him and Dantonio starts baiting him through the press?
Last edited:
Upvote
0
Fungo Squiggly
Mortal enemy of all things Bucky
Yahoo Pickem Champ
Former Game Champion
'18 BPCFFB II Champ
'18 Keeper League Champ
Can't they just put them in the river? Preferably facedown.
Upvote
0
ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Yep.
1) Harbaugh gets into public pissing matches with individual press members or maybe an opposing coach. Doesn't go full Jim Kelly and slug them but maybe some shoving and psychotic rage yelling.
2) National press has feeding frenzy.
3) Michigan admins tell him that he needs to tone it down and maybe see an anger counselor.
4) Harbaugh tells them to go fuck themselves and mind their own business.
Anyone who doesn't think this is a very viable scenario has not paid attention to the man's career. And how entitled must his seemingly uncontrollable id be after having been hailed as the messiah of all things Michigan Man since stepping foot in AA.
Upvote
0
Honestly, I think all this win now is total bs. That's my personal opinion which doesn't line up with other people. I can only speak for myself, but I'm in the crowd that says he does not have to beat his rivals or go to a major bowl in his first 2 seasons. If he does, that's great but this program is in such a mess that it's going to take a few years to get it up to speed. A lot of fans I talk to share the same opinion. Of course we have retards that will expect immediate results but that's just what it is.
I can see the Michigan "uppers" being patient with Jim Harbaugh and letting him do what he wants compared to past coaches. The main question everybody reading this will probably ask is why. I'll tell you why. Who the fuck are we going to get that is better than Harbaugh? If Michigan is still [Mark May]ty after 3 or 4 years, who in the hell are we going to get to replace Harbaugh? This guy is the best coach we could get. This guy will probably still be the best coach we could have in 4 years. As far as I'm concerned, Harbaugh can stay here as long as he wants to fix this mess. He has a track record of rebuilding teams so I'm very excited about the possibility. Win or lose I know our teams aren't going to be soft anymore. The "country club atmosphere" is gone.
I don't see him getting fired unless he can't play nicely with the Michigan "uppers" which I don't see that happening. Does he go back to the NFL? Hell I don't know. People said he would get fired at Stanford or why in the world would he take that job. People said he wouldn't be successful in the NFL. People, including myself, said he wouldn't come to Michigan. Nobody knows what the fuck this guy will do. He may run for President or start a rap group. I do know that the longer he is here, the better the football program will be. I hope.
That would be the rational approach, but nothing about his hiring - starting around this time last year - has shown a hint of restraint or self-reflection.
He'll get more leeway than Richrod. Maybe even a smidgen more than 'not completely aware' Hoke, but I doubt it if there's not some early success.
Hoke beat Ohio State and went to a BCS bowl his first year and was a M-man too. Ultimately it was media gaffes that cost him and Brandon their jobs.
Think about that if Harbaugh's first two years are 8-9 win seasons with his ticking time bomb mouth.
Upvote
0
OSU_D/
COYBIG, COYG
Just b/c it's the media hub for the conference doesn't mean it's the media hub for scUM. The biggest number and most important locale of movers and shakers for Michigan isn't in Chicago. They are out east including the city Chicago thinks is its equal, NYC. No one here pays attention to Chicago media, neither J-izzy Michigan nor Joseph Michigan VII, the earl of Rust Belt USA. Never once did someone utter the phrase "Did you see what the Chicago media wrote/said today about RR?" Sorry to break it to you. Is Chicago better than Detoilet? No doubt. But it is still an overrated city of fat Midwest girls, shitty pizza (sauce and toppings on a loaf of bread), and the worst of the Northern Cities Vowel Shift accents. At least it's fun to visit for a weekend though.
The Free Press was a willing pawn in the anti-Michigan Man RR's downfall. Don't think that applies to the Jesus Jim. This guy has a long grace period coming.
Upvote
0
ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
I don't know anyone who thinks Chicago is equal to NYC. NYC and London are pretty much in a class by themselves. That being said, Chicago is in the conversation, and you really don't know what the fuck you're talking about to be saying otherwise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city
Can all these different rankings using different methodologies yet all coming to the same conclusion be wrong?
Seriously, where do you want to start: Fortune 500 HQs, global law, architecture and advertising firm HQs. Top 20 universities in global rankings (Chicago and Northwestern). Scientific research (Fermilab and Batavia). Only city in the country that can rival NYC for cultural institutions. One of the three US cities given a Michelin Guide for the dining scene. Third largest diplomatic community in the country after DC and NYC.
Upvote
0
I'd tend to agree on this with a major caveat-- he has to "behave." If it takes him a couple of seasons to get scUM going, and he is the same jackass to the press in m*ch*g*n as he was in San Francisco, it won't take much to get the press to turn on him. The casual fan will give him a lot more rope than the press, alumni base, and administration will.
I feel pretty safe in guessing that it's going to take him 2-3 years to get that roster competitive for a conference title or anything more. But, the first time he has scUM in 10-11 win territory (if he doesn't melt down first), you can bet the NFL will come calling again...quickly. And you can bet that he'll be interested. A hyper-competitive guy like Jimbo cannot abide his brother having a SB ring and not him....especially when he beat him for it. There are lots of rumors that one of the conditions of SF essentially letting him out of his contract to take the scUM job was that he would not take another NFL job for "X" number of years. I've seen no proof of this, it's mostly just board/blog speculation...but it makes sense. Because it seems awfully odd that a guy with a .690 win %, 3 straight conference championship games, and a SB appearance didn't get a whiff from NFL teams...including one across the bay that had an opening and could have really used a name hire to make them interesting in a good way again.
Upvote
0
ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Which is what I thought I was being clear on. If he goes off the rails with media members or other coaches or melts down in any way, it becomes a national story. And anyone who thinks the corridors of power at UM are going to brush off Harbaugh and the university getting ripped to shreds in the Chicago media doesn't have a clue. And FWIW, Harbaugh will be getting ripped to shreds in the NYT too, and the UM administration will care even more about that. Depending on the severity of the incidents, it may not mean the end for him but will definitely be the end of the honeymoon whether the Walmart Wolverines like it or not.
If he can take his meds and not go psycho then he truly will have at least a five year window to turn things around.
Upvote
0