SimPLLLLLLLe Jim "6-13" Harbaugh (B1G Suspenders McKhakiPants, Cheater Cheater Booger Eater)

[WolverineMike]

For the life of me - I can't remember a coach who was this hot of a target for both Pro AND College teams.

Maybe Butch Davis when he was at Miami?
Was Bob Stoops ever courted by Pro Teams?

Pete Carroll

 

[sandgk]

Pete Carroll

For the life of me, I cannot remember a college football HC, without NFL HC experience who was so hotly courted by both NFL and College teams.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Charlie Weis. Just ask him.

 

[cjmik_75]

I hope he is up to it. I wasn't sold on him until last nights game. After watching RR for three years basically refuse to make halftime adjustments, just watching Stanford in the second half was amazing.

I've seen some of the moronic UM fans out there the last three years. Believe me, if JH opts to not come to UM, what I said will be nothing compared to those idiots.

So maybe now he's on your short list? :tongue2:

 

[NFBuck]

Charlie Weis. Just ask him.

Or give him a glazed donut.

 

[sandgk]

Charlie Weis. Just ask him.

Though, in real "news" - meaning, someone heard something from somebody else - ESPN - Harbaugh not likely to take TSUN job.

Brandon's seemingly obvious move with Michigan football -- to fire coach Rich Rodriguez and hire Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh -- appears to be off the board. Colleague Chris Mortensen reports that Harbaugh is more likely to remain at Stanford or take an NFL job than return to his alma mater.

Victory is ours?

 

[bassbuckeye07]

Yeah, lets remember how DickRod was a genius who would revolutionize the B10 with his offense. He would also have recruits falling at his feet to play in "his system" at a premier program like scUM. Turns out he was just the product of a special QB/RB combo.

Harbaugh, meanwhile, has a similar story. He has turned Stanford around with a special QB. How will he do with the pressure that would be placed on him in ann arbor? I happen to think he's the best hire for them, but I think it's far from a foregone conclusion he's going to return them to glory. That program is a huge mess right now. There are major deficiencies in several positions on that roster. It's gonna take time to get them back on track. His rise at Stanford coincided with the fall of USC...can he anticipate a similar situation in the Big Ten?

I have no idea if he'll take the job or not. If it comes down to dollars, I think he's NFL bound because SF & Denver are gonna toss a ton of cash his way and scUM is still on the hook for some of "product rodriguez's" contract.

All I know is, if Harbaugh turns them down, they are in serious peril. Hoke is not a great coach. I'd be surprised if they could pry Fitz from NW. They're teetering on the brink of ND-dom right now and the next few days are the most critical in the history of that program.

I agree with most of this but I think its more than just having Luck....When I watched them last night they looked like what UM should look like. Classic pocket passer, great blocking, big good handed tight end, a full back that blows people up....physical defense.....they should open up the check book in a big way.

 

[jlb1705]

I hope he stays at Stanford.

For as much as people say he'd be a great fit for M*ch*g*n (which is true), I think he's really cut out for Stanford. Harbaugh seems to be operating on a set of ideals that are supported there, but not very much throughout the rest of college football. Plus, the timing is right for something like that to happen. For as much as an afterthought as Stanford football has been in recent history, they have a serious and highly competitive athletic department and their football program could be maturing to the point where it can retain sought-after coaching talent. He'd have a good recruiting base in California. Nationally, there's a vacuum where Notre Dame used to be as the destination school for smart kids that can play ball and Stanford could fill that void and be a powerful program for years to come.

 

[Bucklion]

Thing is he will never be a hotter commodity than he is right now. With Luck, he has turned around a dormant program and really pulled off an amazing job he is unlikely to repeat. Now is his time to cash in, because he won't have Luck forever, and he may not have him at all, and without that kind of unique talent I don't think he goes 11-1 at a place liek Stanford again. I think Harbaugh is wwwwaaayyyy better than DickRod as a coach, but it was the same situation, as DickRod had Slaton and White, which is a once in a generation combination, he cashed in while he was hot and got paid 3 years for pudwhacking at Michigan. Weis was hot property #1 coming off the SBs in NE, and he cashed in by eating his way through Notre Dame. Those guys sucked. I don't think Harbaugh will. Many people forget Gary Nord was the hottest commodity in coaching the year he hit it big at UTEP several seasons ago...a couple of seasons later he was fired and the dude can't even sniff a head gig. If Harbaugh wants the big job and big money, this is the opportune time for it.

 

[buckeyesin07]

Questionable assumption - see this chart, true that is slightly dated but it does serve to illustrate the significant spread in salaries. Well established coaches make good coin - others, not so much. College football coaches can easily get within the range of "entry-level" NFL HC salaries -

. "Slightly dated?" I didn't look any further than the first two entries, which were incorrect. Did you get that chart from 1995? As for your bolded conclusion above, that's simply not true. Carroll made $6.5 million this year, and I read reports yesterday that Harbaugh could match that. That's two guys right out of college making top dollar in the NFL.

I absolutely don't see this being a factor. How many teams would make a straight from college HC to the NFL HC so powerful? Not many I'd venture - and that restraint would be wise.

Whether you think it's wise is irrelevant--there were reports yesterday that Harbaugh could be offered GM status as well. Will he be? Who knows. But if he is (and, again, reports were yesterday that he would be offered this from NFL teams), it absolutely will be a factor.

 

[Woody1968]

. "Slightly dated?" I didn't look any further than the first two entries, which were incorrect. Did you get that chart from 1995? As for your bolded conclusion above, that's simply not true. Carroll made $6.5 million this year, and I read reports yesterday that Harbaugh could match that. That's two guys right out of college making top dollar in the NFL.

Carroll had NFL head coaching experience prior to taking the USC job.

 

[Dryden]

Has a coach ever stayed at an institution to coach where he is simple loathed by everyone? (Cooper notwithstanding)

The fact that Coop even made it beyond four years to put together the '93, '95, '96, and '98 teams is remarkable, and a sign of how different things were not even twenty years ago.

If there were as intense media scrutiny then as there is now, John Cooper would have been fired Dec 27, 1990. Going 4-6-1, 8-4, and 7-4-1 over three years, and 0-5 against Michigan and in bowls would seal the deal.

Even if he got another year, in 1991 Ohio State lost The Game by the score of 3-31. No coach in America gets a fifth year after that.

 

[sandgk]

. "Slightly dated?" I didn't look any further than the first two entries, which were incorrect.

WTF do you mean? That those aren't always the current head coaches? If so don't be such a complete pinhead - the chart illustrates the spread in NFL head coaches salaries. Unless you have links to show what new entry NFL coaches now make - straight out of college your original point stands contested, refuted and wrong. Where is your data? Oh, that's right, you have none.

Did you get that chart from 1995?

How fucking witty was that?
You know where I got it from - I provided you with a link.

As for your bolded conclusion above, that's simply not true. Carroll made $6.5 million this year, and I read reports yesterday that Harbaugh could match that.

No, you are wrong - Carroll is not an example fitting your argument at all.
Carroll has prior NFL-HC experience.

That's two guys right out of college making top dollar in the NFL.

Down to none because Carroll had early NFL-HC experience and ...
Harbaugh has no NFL-HC position.

 

[BB73]

I hope he stays at Stanford.

For as much as people say he'd be a great fit for M*ch*g*n (which is true), I think he's really cut out for Stanford. Harbaugh seems to be operating on a set of ideals that are supported there, but not very much throughout the rest of college football. Plus, the timing is right for something like that to happen. For as much as an afterthought as Stanford football has been in recent history, they have a serious and highly competitive athletic department and their football program could be maturing to the point where it can retain sought-after coaching talent. He'd have a good recruiting base in California. Nationally, there's a vacuum where Notre Dame used to be as the destination school for smart kids that can play ball and Stanford could fill that void and be a powerful program for years to come.

16 straight Directors' Cups certainly qualifies as 'highly competitive'.

I agree that now is the time for Stanford to make a commitment to try to stay near the top of the Pac-10 in football. Personally, I think it's great that they're successful in football, because it blows the 'tough to win with our academic standards' excuses for ND & TSUN out of the water.

 

[buxfan4life]

16 straight Directors' Cups certainly qualifies as 'highly competitive'.

I agree that now is the time for Stanford to make a commitment to try to stay near the top of the Pac-10 in football. Personally, I think it's great that they're successful in football, because it blows the 'tough to win with our academic standards' excuses for ND & TSUN out of the water.

But...but...but how can you win without guys like this?

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