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Buckeye86
I do not choose to discuss it
As I’ve said before, I’m continuously amazed that on the most basic level parents and recruits can come away from interacting with Harbaugh and think “yep, I want to be a part of that!”
I really do think it goes back to the pitch that it’s like Harvard academically, but easy! And it’s like Bama on the field, but easy!
That’s obviously not exactly what they tell kids, but I have no doubt that that is the essence of the appeal they manage to get kids and families to buy into. And as we’ve said over and over, that is the foundation of their problem.
And no matter what they do, that’s why they’ve averaged 3 losses a season for the last 30 years.
I really do think it goes back to the pitch that it’s like Harvard academically, but easy! And it’s like Bama on the field, but easy!
That’s obviously not exactly what they tell kids, but I have no doubt that that is the essence of the appeal they manage to get kids and families to buy into. And as we’ve said over and over, that is the foundation of their problem.
And no matter what they do, that’s why they’ve averaged 3 losses a season for the last 30 years.
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
Kinda in a "between a rock and a hard spot" territory for the ol' Hairball. If he loses two more games this season he's toast and has to find a new job and Michigan loses some of thier recruits. If he starts hunting and the word gets out and he miraculously wins two of his games with ND, MSU, and the Buckeyes, he keeps his job but loses some of his recruits.
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Palpie
Legend
Worse for tsun is he only has 2 years left on the contract I think. So they have to either extend him soon or get rid of him. Can't be easy recruiting with that short a contract, other coaches can point out the school and/or he aren't committed to each other long term.
What do they do if he beats nd and msu, but still can't beat osu? What coach would come if you just fired a 9-3 coach, but how do you extend a coach that is 0-5 vs the buckeyes.
What do they do if he beats nd and msu, but still can't beat osu? What coach would come if you just fired a 9-3 coach, but how do you extend a coach that is 0-5 vs the buckeyes.
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Nigel Tufnel
Choking on vomit
You do that by OWNING your place in the pecking order. They need to own up to who and what they are. They ARE a 9-3 team that should expect to struggle with tOSU.
UNLESS-TQTS
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I have said since they let him have access to the media again this spring that the tsun power brokers were playing the long game and setting him up.
His overall record is just good enough they won't be able to fire him for that. I think they'll fabricate some sort of social outrage or professional conduct concerns over whatever the simple bastard finally says with a Twitter machine in his hands. That way they can fire him for cause and save a bunch of money on their car insurance (not that they care).
You have a rolling ball of goofy for a coach that is moderately successful on the field. It sure is a hell of a lot easier to just take his handlers away than fire him for being moderately successful.
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Disagree here. Rivalry records play into overall record, and if he's sitting at 0-5 against tOSU, especially if they get creamed again, that's grounds to shitcan him. I don't think they will, because, honestly, as the reports earlier this year said, if they're still raking in cash, the wins and losses don't mean as much. That said, given the overall atmosphere on their boards and coverage in the press, another loss to ND, tOSU and in a Bowl puts them finishing around 8-5. That might start to put a dent into their revenue starting next season...
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Maybe but it's sort of like Cooper imo.
The "can't beat his rival" thing has to go on a hell of a lot longer than 4-5 years otherwise you a firing a coach who wins 9-10 games a year and the guys who might replace him are going to notice that. Meaning make it more difficult to find the next guy because who besides the Chris Ash's of the world want to walk into a no win situation?
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Agreed. Cooper wasn't fired until 2000, when two events at the end of the season finally did him in: (a) Reggie Germany posted a Blutarsky in his final quarter at Ohio State; and (b) Mr. Ohio Ryan Brewer ran circles around the Buckeyes in some meaningless bowl game.
2-10-1 will always be the albatross around Cooper's neck. But Coop also had on his résumé: three Big Ten championships; a Rose Bowl victory; a Sugar Bowl victory; a pair of #2 finishes; a Heisman winner; an Outland winner; a Lombardi winner; a Biletnikoff winner; a Butkus winner; a Thorpe winner; three Silver Footballs; 22 All Americans; eight Academic All Americans; and 18 first-round draft picks. The Germany and Brewer incidents were just the kind of "fabricated social outrage" necessary to oust a Hall of Fame head coach.
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Cooper did indeed have some outstanding results under his watch despite his serious failures against scUM. However, Hairball has very little such results in comparison to Cooper: One single shared division title; no Big Ten titles; one top-10 poll finish (#10); 0-4 against Ohio State; 0-1 against Notre Dame (Coop was 2-0). He did have two players who won major awards (Jake Butt: Ozzie Newsome and John Mackey Awards; "Ghost" Peppers: Lott IMPACT and Paul Hornung Awards)...not counting all the September Heismans. If he keeps his current rate of "success", I seriously doubt that Hairball lasts 13 seasons like Cooper did.
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Nigel Tufnel
Choking on vomit
Exactly. Simple Jim WISHES he was Coop. Coop is a Hall of Fame coach. Simple Jim is Hall of Average.
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Always been my opinion that Cooper only lasted 13 years because they wouldn't fire him in those first 4-5, like they should have, because of the way they fired Earl i.e. "no good coach will ever come here again if we fire another one" syndrome.
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Jim Harbaugh is the right coach at the right time for the storied program up north. He just needs a little more time to put his head underneath and see what the problem is.
If they are smart enough to give him another five years, it will bear fruit. By that time, I am very sure he will have them in a position "right around the corner". There will be a lot to hope for then.
If they are smart enough to give him another five years, it will bear fruit. By that time, I am very sure he will have them in a position "right around the corner". There will be a lot to hope for then.
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Though I agree with everything that you've stated, I think Hairball is their last chance at relevancy, unless they wisen up and break from the "_ichigan man" mantra for a coach. Ttun doesn't seem like they want to go back to unknown coaches(though that would be their best bet), they want big names that are already known, like ND. I could see 9-10 wins a season keeping Hairball at scUM, as long as he has a year or 2 beating MSU and/or ND(I just don't see him close to OSU at this point).
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