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Should semipro/college players be paid, or allowed to sell their stuff? (NIL and Revenue Sharing)

This is just my first level of thought on it, could be important details I am missing but here is how I'd set my League up

Thanks, I spent the last several years of my career negotiating multi million dollar agreements for a Fortune 500 company, so my thoughts immediately go to contract complexity (it's also why I find this stuff interesting in retirement). A football only, 30 school league certainly makes that doable.

And I have to admit, there is an elegance to it that I really like. But it is a very radical change from the current status quo which will make getting there difficult.
 
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Thanks, I spend the last several years of my career negotiating multi million dollar agreements for a Fortune 500 company, so my thoughts immediately to contract complexity (it's also why I find this stuff interesting in retirement). A football only, 30 school league certainly makes that doable.

And I have to admit, there is an elegance to it that I really like. But it is a very radical change from the current status quo which will make getting there difficult.

I think Kentucky(?) already did something where the athletic department is now an LLC?

As far as the radical shift, I think the catalyst will simply be the old model simply gets unsustainable. Too much NIL money demand, not enough ROI, the current attempt at a control structure gets defeated in court, some combination of the two, who knows?

I am pretty confident that total open and free market never lasts. I'd be willing to make a big bet on that.
 
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Thanks, I spent the last several years of my career negotiating multi million dollar agreements for a Fortune 500 company, so my thoughts immediately go to contract complexity (it's also why I find this stuff interesting in retirement). A football only, 30 school league certainly makes that doable.

And I have to admit, there is an elegance to it that I really like. But it is a very radical change from the current status quo which will make getting there difficult.

I think Kentucky(?) already did something where the athletic department is now an LLC?

As far as the radical shift, I think the catalyst will simply be the old model simply gets unsustainable. Too much NIL money demand, not enough ROI, the current attempt at a control structure gets defeated in court, some combination of the two, who knows?

I am pretty confident that total open and free market never lasts. I'd be willing to make a big bet on that.
I really was intrigued by this convo, but wanted to keep the 2026 recruiting thread about the 2026 recruits. And you guys were providing some deep info regarding CFB restructuring along with NIL and revenue sharing. Figured it'd be more pertinent to continue in this thread
 
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...the current attempt at a control structure gets defeated in court....
If by this you mean the House Settlement, then on this one issue we will have to agree to disagree. Contrary to conventional wisdom, not all limitations on compensation are adjudicated to be in violation of the antitrust statutes. To determine if they are courts use what they call the Rule of Reason to determine their legality. That rule and a few other legal precedence make me believe that the house settlement has slightly more then a punchers chance of approval in the Supreme Court. I know that sounds like a lawyer (maybe it will and maybe it won't), but it is why the CSC is rolling the dice to see if it will.

An in-depth discussion on the legal aspects of the House Settlement is too complex for a message board. (nobody wants to read 10 page post.)
If you or anyone wants a more complete understanding, I'm going to drop a link to what I felt was the most informative and concise explanation I found in my deep dive. If you really wanna get in the weeds, you can go there.

https://www.hastingsnclaw.com/news/ncaa-house-settlement
 
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If by this you mean the House Settlement, then on this one issue we will have to agree to disagree. Contrary to conventional wisdom, not all limitations on compensation are adjudicated to be in violation of the antitrust statutes. To determine if they are courts use what they call the Rule of Reason to determine their legality. That rule and a few other legal precedence make me believe that the house settlement has slightly more then a punchers chance of approval in the Supreme Court. I know that sounds like a lawyer (maybe it will and maybe it won't), but it is why the CSC is rolling the dice to see if it will.

An in-depth discussion on the legal aspects of the House Settlement is too complex for a message board. (nobody wants to read 10 page post.)
If you or anyone wants a more complete understanding, I'm going to drop a link to what I felt was the most informative and concise explanation I found in my deep dive. If you really wanna get in the weeds, you can go there.

https://www.hastingsnclaw.com/news/ncaa-house-settlement

That surprises me but I trust your judgement (and there is no way in hell I am reading that)
 
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Student-Athlete NIL Deals

Starting June 7, 2025, NCAA Division I student-athletes must report third-party Name, Image and Likeness (NIL) deals with a total value of six hundred dollars ($600) or more in the aggregate. The College Sports Commission will utilize NIL Go, an online portal built with assistance from Deloitte, to determine whether third-party NIL deals are made with the purpose of using a student-athlete’s NIL for a valid business purpose and do not exceed a reasonable range of compensation. Additional guidance on third-party NIL deal reporting will be provided to student-athletes as their institutions are onboarded to NIL Go.

How NIL Go Works

NIL Go offers a simple way for student-athletes to report third-party NIL deals to be evaluated for rules compliance. NIL Go also provides student-athletes the option to clear a third-party NIL deal prior to accepting the deal to confirm that acceptance will not affect their eligibility, allowing student-athletes to move forward with their deals confidently while protecting their eligibility.

More than 8,300 NIL deals worth $80M approved by new commission

The new College Sports Commission has cleared more than 8,300 name, image and likeness deals worth nearly $80 million, it said Thursday in its first full update on how the new system is working.

The commission, which is in charge of approving contracts worth $600 or more between college athletes and third-party companies, said 28,342 students signed up on its NIL Go platform between June 11, when it launched, and Aug. 31. Nearly 3,200 "representatives" or agents had also signed up.

The platform was created as part of the House settlement, which allows schools to pay athletes directly for their NIL while also offering them a chance to make money from outside groups. NIL Go is in charge of analyzing the outside deals.

It said 332 deals had not been cleared to date and 75 had been resubmitted, while none had entered arbitration, which is available for parties who feel their deals have been wrongly rejected.

The commission said the most common clearance issues were delays in attesting to or providing required information; contradictory deal terms; misreporting of deal terms or mistakes in entering deal terms; and deals that don't satisfy the "valid business purpose" requirement that caused confusion when the platform first rolled out.

The CSC said values of the deals ranged as high as $1.8 million. It said its "deal flow reports" will be updated on a regular basis.
 
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