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Should Penn State Suspend Its Football Program?

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Should Penn State Suspend Its Football Program?

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http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...of-student-affairs-about-paterno-trigger-ncaa

"This could definitely be perceived as an extra benefit and yes, it could bootstrap into LOIC (Lack of Institutional Control) without even having to address Sandusky," says Dr. David Ridpath, Assistant Professor of Sports Administration at Ohio University. "It would set a precedent, but that is normal for the NCAA. I told a reporter it would have to be something other that Jerry Sandusky -- this is it for the NCAA if they want to do something and it does give them a bit of cover.

"I think the more it is not Jerry Sandusky, the better and they can certainly go this route. The Freeh report will be the tipping point."

Keep in mind, this wouldn't be the first time the NCAA created a precedent tied to a high-profile case. It did that with both the Reggie Bush and Cam Newton investigations. As I wrote a few weeks back, the NCAA's lists of acts that demonstrate a lack of institutional control are tied to violation of NCAA rules, not real-world crimes -- but the NCAA brass is on record as saying it would be keeping an eye on how things unfolded with the Penn State investigation. Well, now we're getting into the investigation of the culture at Penn State.

"In this case there is an opening at least for potential NCAA violations based upon the emails and the culture of Paterno," explains Ridpath. "Technically if someone is found "guilty" of a student code violation, they could be suspended from extra curricular activities (I harken back to my days being banished to Judicial Affairs where I was the Vicky Triponey at Marshall). So if Paterno is handling punishment and players are still being allowed to play when a normal student might have been suspended from Band or a fraternity (or school for that matter) for similar violations, then certainly it can be categorized as an extra benefit and even a competitive advantage as potentially players who should have been suspended may have still played. Then it could play into LOIC without even addressing Sandusky and the NCAA feels like it is doing something, and in many ways, they are addressing a prevailing culture throughout ICA where powerful coaches are calling the shots on things well outside their purview.
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If you listened to Freeh today he spoke again and again about the football CULTURE at Penn St. Not Paterno. Certainly not Larry, Mo and Curley. The culture. The White Outs. The nameless jerseys. The hard to get season tickets. The mythical winning seasons. The Glory. Everything that goes with Penn State football. WE ARE ..... PENN STATE!!!

Did a bowl ban change the culture at USC? Did a bowl ban cause us to miss a single step?

The die hards are pining for the start of the season. Even today you can find posts bragging about their top 10 recruiting class. O'Brien is the new Paterno. Yesterday's letter from "Joe" was all about preserving that very culture. Nothing has changed. Their greatest fear is the loss of their program because that is still what is most important. Not the children.

Send the three stooges to jail and take down the statue and absolutely nothing changes.

Shut the program down for at least one year. There is no serious harm to the players. Release every football player with immediate eligibility at a new university or the option of finishing their degree under scholarship at PSU.


(Let's just not talk about comparable cultures at other schools.)
 
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What should the NCAA do?
Well, if your the NCAA you absolutely must make an example of this blatant disregard for child welfare and the rules, morals and ethics as described by the NCAA. You shut them completely down for at least a year and Bowl ban them for several and take away scholarships.
It's the only "humane" thing to do!
 
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I've changed my mind. Jim Tressel covered up a tattoo-for-players' property scandal. Nothing illegal about what they did. Paterno, who has been show to be ALL of Penn State football, covered up... well, we all know what he covered up.

If Joe Paterno had done nothing, maybe I'd think that PSU should be allowed to play football. But he did do something, and it was worse than nothing.

Every day that Paterno went without turning in Sandusky, he was giving the impression that all is well at Penn State. That gave them an athletic advantage - covering up how things really were in Happy Valley, making recruits believe it would be a good place for football.

If Ohio State got 1 year bowl season ban and 9 scholarships for covering up tattoos, Penn State needs to get... what? Maybe they should have to miss a year of football for every sexual attack made by Sandusky after Paterno first was informed of this fucker. But don't tell anyone at Penn State - blow up the stadium when it's full for the first game, and everyone in the stands is asking, "where's the other team?" The other team was tipped off and isn't there, you barnacle-jerks!!!
 
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At first I didn't think they should get any type of punishment like the death penalty, but reading more information today has changed my mind.

This was a coverup that was either hidden, unexplained, or exacerbated by top University officials connected to or in the football program for almost 14 years. You're not going to convince me that they were covering all of this terrible activity up for reasons other than protecting the football program, and that is terrifying. To have a huge public institution cover up child molestation for the sake of the football program. And I have a hard time thinking that some of the other coaches on that staff haven't heard about the allegations in some for or another and never seemed to do anything serious about it either.

They need to go through thoroughly and look at every person, every employee and the way in which everyone interacts, reports, and talks about situations on campus. There needs to be a complete revamp of the way in which the athletics and university communicate and interact.

Not to mention, after reading through different comments from the fan base, I think it's pretty clear many want this to be swept under the rug and just want football season to start so that everyone can forget about it and they can get back to playing football. The problem is that this is what has been going on for 13 years. People need to understand that they can't just run away from this.

They need to shut the program down for a year, check and recheck who is in charge, who is still working for them and make sure that nothing like this can ever happen again. That isn't going to happen in a few months and if they just rush headlong into the season, they are making the same mistake they have been making for the past 13 years. After the year absence they can ease their way back and by year 4 they can start going back to bowl games.

Yes in a way it is unfair to the players, but you can release them from their scholarships. Regardless of whether it is fair or not, most NCAA punishments are "fair" in that they affect players not on the team at the time of the infraction, but that shouldn't stop the NCAA from taking action against PSU.

After reading the comments and hearing what people are saying that are still in that community and circle, they need a wake up call.
 
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Would one-year, complete suspension of play really do anything at Penn State?

Wouldn't it have to be a two-year deal to have any effect?

Outside of losing the revenue for one season, seems like one year wouldn't do much.
 
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VBSJ;2177854; said:
Would one-year, complete suspension of play really do anything at Penn State?

Wouldn't it have to be a two-year deal to have any effect?

Outside of losing the revenue for one season, seems like one year wouldn't do much.
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Of course it would. How many of those players do you think would stick around for a year without football? Not to mention how it would obliterate 2013 recruiting and beyond. It would have a profound effect on that program. We're talking a decade setback, minimum.
 
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