SG Jon Diebler (2nd-Most Big Ten career 3-Pointers, Butler Recruiting Director)

[jimotis4heisman]

Name me a Buckeye who, when he shoots, everyone does not want the ball to go in.

Seriously, when a player has struggled the way Diebler has, fans react one of two ways -- wanting the player to disappear, and wanting him to stay in the game but to find his stroke. Fortunately for Jon, fans this season have wanted the latter. Too bad the fans did not have the same attitude about DaeQuan Cook.

that post is garbage. im sorry. both players faced a lot of scrutiny and negativety. ive backed both of them. both are buckeyes and both played hard and did little things that many dont appreciate.

 

[MaxBuck]

that post is garbage. im sorry. both players faced a lot of scrutiny and negativety. ive backed both of them. both are buckeyes and both played hard and did little things that many dont appreciate.

I agree wholeheartedly with the bolded portion of your quote. The underlined, obviously not so much.:tongue2:

If you think that Diebler has endured the opprobrium that both DaeQuan Cook and Brandon Fuss-Cheatham had to live through, you are truly living in fantasy land. I'm sure not accusing you, jo4, of knocking either of these two Buckeyes, but others sure did. (And before anyone reminds me, I had a pretty sour attitude about a certain young man from Medina, and I regret a lot of negative comments I made about him.)

The point here is not that Diebs deserves more criticism, but rather that many other young Bucks have deserved less.

 

[crazybuckfan40]

Even Evan Turner made light of this point in an article that the fans are still behind him, because he is kinda the local boy coming from Ohio...

 

[buckeyes_rock]

I can't wait til Diebler is a sophomore so hopefully I won't have to hear every time he comes into the game that "he's the all-time leading scorer in Ohio High School history." Enough already. Say something else about the young man.

 

[The Man]

I can't wait til Diebler is a sophomore so hopefully I won't have to hear every time he comes into the game that "he's the all-time leading scorer in Ohio High School history." Enough already. Say something else about the young man.

the only other thing they ever say is that he has really struggled with his shot this year, given the choice between the two I'd rather hear how he is the all-time leading scorer.....

 

[IronBuckI]

I can't wait til Diebler is a sophomore so hopefully I won't have to hear every time he comes into the game that "he's the all-time leading scorer in Ohio High School history." Enough already. Say something else about the young man.

If you ever watched Damon Bailey play for Indiana in the early 90's, then you'd know that they will not stop bringing up "the all-time leading scorer in Ohio High School history." It'll be there as long as Jon is playing, or until someone breaks the record.

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

Diebler only played 12 minutes last night and took 3 shots......he really didn't get a chance to get into the flow with Turner and Lighty playing well on the wings......

 

[zincfinger]

I feel like Diebler needs to finish the season strong and I hope he can.....I think it is important for him and his confidence, he needs to show he can hit those shots....next year it is going to get crowded on the wings.

I'm sure part of his struggles have been confidence related/hitting a cold streak, but I also think part of it is the increased defensive pressure of the college game relative to the high school game. That's the biggest difference between the two in my view; the defensive intensity and pressure, and the distance to which college defenses extend their pressure. Virtually every college defense brings strong, consistent pressure out to 18 or 19 feet, good ones several feet beyond that. Not so in high school. And it's obviously a lot easier to knock down your long range jumpers when you can comfortably set up and step into them. I don't doubt that Diebler will adjust to the dramatically greater perimeter pressure of college defenses, but I don't think it should come as any surprise if it takes him a year or two to do it.

 

[LitlBuck]

The strange thing about Jon is how he has been hot and cold this year. Last night, he had some pretty wide-open looks and missed them but he was only in for 12 minutes so that really didn't give him time to get into the flow. I will be very interested in seeing if he regains that tremendous shooting stroke, I came to love last year, next year. I know how badly we want him to succeed so I can just imagine what he is going through but he has not let that affect his other parts of the game.

 

[crazybuckfan40]

The strange thing about Jon is how he has been hot and cold this year. Last night, he had some pretty wide-open looks and missed them but he was only in for 12 minutes so that really didn't give him time to get into the flow. I will be very interested in seeing if he regains that tremendous shooting stroke, I came to love last year, next year. I know how badly we want him to succeed so I can just imagine what he is going through but he has not let that affect his other parts of the game.

The stroke is still there, it is just confidence...Yeah he is streaky at times, and I think that hurts him at times when he is only getting 3 looks a game, but hopefully he will get more looks next year and knock them down with more consistency...

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

I am still on Deibler's bandwagon and I think he will be vastly improved next year.....another summer in the weight program and just adjusting to the D-1 level......he can shoot.....a pure shooter.....as long as he continues to play defense and handle the ball, he will get opportunities next year to provide a spark of the bench.....

 

[hitdog042]

the only other thing they ever say is that he has really struggled with his shot this year, given the choice between the two I'd rather hear how he is the all-time leading scorer.....

Diebler has never been a terribly good shooter. I want to say he shot in the 38 percent range in high school too.

And that was against small division players.

I hope he gets his stroke down in 09. Shooting a lot and being a sharp shooter are two different things.

 

[LitlBuck]

Diebler has never been a terribly good shooter. I want to say he shot in the 38 percent range in high school too.

I don't want to be this to death but I don't know how many of his high school games you saw but shooting 38% from where he shot the ball is not a bad percentage.

 

[hitdog042]

I don't want to be this to death but I don't know how many of his high school games you saw but shooting 38% from where he shot the ball is not a bad percentage.

Quite a few. My wife is from Upper. I like Jon. I hope he does well. But he also bricked a lot of close shots too.

Again, I'm not bashing him. I guess my point is the kid got built up into some kind of a player he may never be.

 

[alpo]

I am still on Deibler's bandwagon and I think he will be vastly improved next year.....another summer in the weight program and just adjusting to the D-1 level......he can shoot.....a pure shooter.....as long as he continues to play defense and handle the ball, he will get opportunities next year to provide a spark of the bench.....

I agree. The game will slow down for him. I'm particularly encouraged because with all that he didn't accomplish, he did definitely hustle and play hard-nosed D throughout. And if he did get frustrated, it didn't manifest itself on his attitude. Confidence is key. Relaxation and a cool, clear understanding of what he's doing.
Jon, we know you can do it, buddy!!!