SF/PF J.D. Weatherspoon (transfer to Toledo)

[NJ-Buckeye]

Amazing ups... kid jumps OVER the rafters...

Zips would love him

 

[NFBuck]

Best of luck to J.D. :osu:

The simple fact is, the way Coach Matta utilizes his bench, I just think kids transferring out is always going to be common. There just aren't a lot of minutes to go around.

 

[scarletmike]

Sad to see him leave, he was always entertaining when he got on the court with his ridiculous ups. Best of luck wherever he lands.

 

[MUBuck]

Best of luck to J.D. :osu:

The simple fact is, the way Coach Matta utilizes his bench, I just think kids transferring out is always going to be common. There just aren't a lot of minutes to go around.

Is it Matta unwilling to play reserves in general, or Matta unwilling to play the reserves at his disposal? J.D. just didn't have the skill set to play big minutes for this team. If he goes to a smaller school, he could probably play the 4, but not in the B1G.

 

[NFBuck]

Is it Matta unwilling to play reserves in general, or Matta unwilling to play the reserves at his disposal? J.D. just didn't have the skill set to play big minutes for this team. If he goes to a smaller school, he could probably play the 4, but not in the B1G.

Well, couldn't say for sure Re: 'Spoon...but he's had talent at his disposal most of his time here and has rarely gone deeper than a 7-8 man rotation...

 

[Oh8ch]

I think JD transferring is the right decision for him, and OSU as well. I don't think he was going to play much in the future at OSU. Unlike Sibert, JD was never in the regular playing group and it was going to be unlikely for him to make the kind of improvement it would've taken for him to crack the rotation. It appeared multiple other guys were ahead of him in the playing group - they would either go to 2 bigs (Amir + Evan) or go small (with Sam or Q at the 4) if Deshaun was out of the lineup. I don't see JD being particularly selfish in transferring - guys who don't play other than in garbage minutes leave all the time, even on great teams. He was never consistently in the playing group, and could make something out of more minutes at a lower level. Good luck to him wherever he goes.

What happened to putting the team first?

 

[Fremont Buckeye]

Is it Matta unwilling to play reserves in general, or Matta unwilling to play the reserves at his disposal? J.D. just didn't have the skill set to play big minutes for this team. If he goes to a smaller school, he could probably play the 4, but not in the B1G.

I think that Matta likes to have a tight rotation (7-8) players, which in the college game and the amount of TV, regular time-outs you do not need a deep bench unless your team has the propensity to foul a lot, which Matta's teams typically do not.

I would have obviously like to have seen JD stay and play for the Buckeyes, but with the way Amir is coming along and Evan seemingly ahead of JD, the writing is on the wall (based upon previous seasons) that a lot of playing time was most likely not in the cards. Can't blame him for wanting out.

 

[Oh8ch]

The roster for 2013 is starting to look real interesting with the potential for Thomas, Ravenel and Ross all to be gone after this season.

 

[Jake]

At the outset, before someone says it, I'm sure that what Jake means is not that JD Weatherspoon is irrelevant.

I meant he's apparently well down the depth chart so his departure isn't likely to produce a large negative impact on tOSU's basketball team. If having a chance to play is important to him then he should transfer.

Whatever he decides I hope it works out for him, be it at tOSU or elsewhere.

 

[buckeyesin07]

The roster for 2013 is starting to look real interesting with the potential for Thomas, Ravenel and Ross all to be gone after this season.

Ross?

 

[DZ83CK]

What happened to putting the team first?

Dude, I made it very clear that JD is a much different case from Sibert. JD was never in the regular rotation and it didn't look like he was ever going to be. You can't expect players to stay with the team when their chances of meaningful PT are slim and none.

 

[Oh8ch]

Dude, I made it very clear that JD is a much different case from Sibert. JD was never in the regular rotation and it didn't look like he was ever going to be. You can't expect players to stay with the team when their chances of meaningful PT are slim and none.

Dude? Really?

Reread your own posts from the Sibert thread, such as

I don't mean to make it seem like he doesn't have the right to transfer, but transferring is the opposite of team-first.

or

I don't think he ought to consider himself in the phase where he's got to think of himself first - he should be thinking "how do I get better so I can earn a bigger role on the team I'm on" rather than "I should give up on OSU and go somewhere else where I'm guaranteed to play a lot."

But now it is sometimes me-first and sometimes team-first depending on how you view their role on the team.

Except Ravenel, whose coach left. Thus making him no longer part of any team.

 

[DZ83CK]

Dude? Really?

Reread your own posts from the Sibert thread, such as

or

But now it is sometimes me-first and sometimes team-first depending on how you view their role on the team.

Except Ravenel, whose coach left. Thus making him no longer part of any team.

You're separating comments from the context - clearly I think Sibert's transfer justification(s) is not as acceptable as those of Weatherspoon. I think it's selfish to transfer in certain situations, but it's so common to see transfers in other cases that I think it's not particularly selfish to transfer if those circumstances apply. Don't you think some transfers are more selfish than others? That's basically what I'm saying - some transfers are clearly more selfish than others.

Reasons that I accept as good (i.e., common/not particularly selfish) reasons for transferring:
- coach leaves/coach is fired/new coach kicks you off the team (Ravenel)
- never play meaningful minutes on a consistent basis (Weatherspoon)
- team stinks & you have virtually no chance of making the NCAA tourney if you stay
- other extraordinary circumstances (such as the team being banned from postseason play like UConn next year)

If none of the common reasons apply, I'll probably think you're being selfish by transferring. Rarely does a player who is on a great team (like OSU has been lately) that has played regularly in the past and has a legit chance of playing regularly in the future transfer unless there's some extraordinary circumstance. There isn't one in Sibert's case in my opinion - he had a chance to play but shot his way out of it. Weatherspoon didn't have nearly the opportunities that Sibert has had.

Evan Smotrycz is on the selfish end of the spectrum, Colton Christian is not.

 

[Buckeye Maniac]

You're separating comments from the context - clearly I think Sibert's transfer justification(s) is not as acceptable as those of Weatherspoon. I think it's selfish to transfer in certain situations, but it's so common to see transfers in other cases that I think it's not particularly selfish to transfer if those circumstances apply. Don't you think some transfers are more selfish than others? That's basically what I'm saying - some transfers are clearly more selfish than others.

Reasons that I accept as good (i.e., common/not particularly selfish) reasons for transferring:
- coach leaves/coach is fired/new coach kicks you off the team (Ravenel)
- never play meaningful minutes on a consistent basis (Weatherspoon)
- team stinks & you have virtually no chance of making the NCAA tourney if you stay
- other extraordinary circumstances (such as the team being banned from postseason play like UConn next year)

If none of the common reasons apply, I'll probably think you're being selfish by transferring. Rarely does a player who is on a great team (like OSU has been lately) that has played regularly in the past and has a legit chance of playing regularly in the future transfer unless there's some extraordinary circumstance. There isn't one in Sibert's case in my opinion - he had a chance to play but shot his way out of it. Weatherspoon didn't have nearly the opportunities that Sibert has had.

Evan Smotrycz is on the selfish end of the spectrum, Colton Christian is not.

And yet it's been stated time and time again that Sibert doesn't have a chance at getting playing time due to an assistant's opinion of him. Therefore he would be justified in transferring according to you...

 

[LitlBuck]

Going to transfer

April 16, 2012
Weatherspoon Bio

COLUMBUS, Ohio-J.D. Weatherspoon, a sophomore forward on the Ohio State men's basketball team, has been granted a release from his scholarship and will seek to transfer to another school, Thad Matta, head coach of the Buckeyes, announced Monday.

Weatherspoon has not determined where he will transfer.

Over the last two seasons, Weatherspoon (6-6, 215) appeared in 35 games for the Buckeyes. He averaged 2.7 points and one rebound a game. He made 59 percent of his shots (37-63) and averaged about six minutes per game of court time.

Weatherspoon played high school basketball at Northland HS in Columbus.

"Coach Matta and my teammates have been great to me at Ohio State," Weatherspoon said. "Our fans and the Columbus community have supported me while in high school and at Ohio State. After discussing my future with my family and my coaches, we determined transferring to another school would be the best opportunity for me. My family and I will begin that process immediately."

Matta said he supports Weatherspoon's decision.

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