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Nutriaitch;2252346; said:
the SEC isn't scared to overpay a coach, so I won't say absolutely zero.

Money isn't the primary motivator for Harbaugh. Academics & integrity are very important to him. It just isn't going to happen.

I know that comes across as smug & condescending but remember we are talking about a guy who was critical of his own Alma mater regarding the academic qualifications over the FB players it was accepting into the program.
 
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Muck;2252354; said:
Money isn't the primary motivator for Harbaugh. Academics & integrity are very important to him. It just isn't going to happen.

I know that comes across as smug & condescending but remember we are talking about a guy who was critical of his own Alma mater regarding the academic qualifications over the FB players it was accepting into the program.


not condescending at all.

I'm well aware of the SEC's reputation, and for the most part, it is not unearned.
 
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darbypitcher22;2252440; said:
Can't imagine Jimbo Fisher leaving Florida State... he's got a pretty good thing going there... all he has to manage is win 9-10 games, destroy his division, win the title game and there's the BCS money

I can't imagine anyone leaving a good gig to go to Auburn.

they're a mess right now, the boosters run that place, and they have possibly the worst Little Brother syndrome in the history of sports.

plus the town of Auburn sucks ass.

that being said, it is better job than Kentucky or Arky.
 
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Nutriaitch;2252475; said:
I can't imagine anyone leaving a good gig to go to Auburn.

they're a mess right now, the boosters run that place, and they have possibly the worst Little Brother syndrome in the history of sports.

plus the town of Auburn sucks ass.

that being said, it is better job than Kentucky or Arky.
They're one bought QB away from being Tennessee right now, minus the decent tradition. I don't think that job's all that attractive at all, especially after they [Mark May]canned Thomas Tuberville and Chizik, within 5 years of eachother, thinking they're better than where those two led them...

Now, I'm not saying that Chizik shouldn't be shitcanned, the guy's 23-36 overall, 9-29 in conference play (18-17 / 7-15 in the SEC) without Cam Newton. That was just a ponderous hire from the start. Pluck just about any coach off the street and they could have repeated Chizik's 2010 run.
 
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Nutriaitch;2252475; said:
I can't imagine anyone leaving a good gig to go to Auburn.

they're a mess right now, the boosters run that place, and they have possibly the worst Little Brother syndrome in the history of sports.

plus the town of Auburn sucks ass.

that being said, it is better job than Kentucky or Arky.

I don't disagree with the bolded part at all.

Some of the lesser FBS school's in Ohio have what I would call a more pathetic Little Brother syndrome though. They have it almost as bad as Auburn, and the simple fact of the matter is that they are neither literally nor figuratively in the same league as their Big Brother. It has been more than a century since any of them beat Big Brother, and none of them has ever won a game that Big Brother would call meaningful.

Then there is Penn State. They are developing a Little Brother syndrome to Ohio State. It is not nearly as bad as Auburn's or as pathetic as the Fredos', but it may be weirder than any of them.
 
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Muck;2252354; said:
I know that comes across as smug & condescending but remember we are talking about a guy who was critical of his own Alma mater regarding the academic qualifications over the FB players it was accepting into the program.


Take the academics and integrity out of it.
He's a millionaire now and the toast of the town in California. He'd be a millionaire and the toast of the town in Auburn too.

But why the shit would anyone choose Auburn over California?

If he ever re-joined the college ranks, he seems a lock to be PAC 12 for life.
 
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Nutriaitch;2252475; said:
the boosters run that place
I remember the first time I went to Auburn. Went to a bar right after the game, some people I was told were boosters were already there and a bunch of players walked in in their track suits shortly after.

Boosters were paying tabs and throwing around $100s like it was Monopoly money, and it was all in the open. Anyone who even slightly doubts that Cam Newton was paid 6 figures is a fucking moron.
 
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A proven coach is not going to put up with a splintered, dysfunctional organization that is perceived to still exist on Donahue Drive. Fair or not, that means Jay Jacobs's tenure as athletic director may have to end for Auburn to have any chance of long-term success.

Whether you like him or hate him, Jacosb's tenure has not been a complete bust. The modest renovations to Jordan-Hare Stadium have been welcomed and the construction of Auburn Arena was a much needed addition to campus, even if the payoff hasn't come yet. And let?s not forget, Auburn won its long awaited title on his watch.

Unfortunately for Jacobs, perception and reality are hitting him between the eyes all at once.

The reality is that during Jacobs's tenure, the football program has been embroiled in controversy and under-achievement with the exception of 2010, which shouldn't be discounted.

Many Auburn people have never forgiven him for his perceived mistreatment of Tommy Tuberville following the 2008 season. Still beloved by some today, many believed Auburn owed him another year after finishing 5-7 his last season. The 2010 national title brushed those feelings under the rug for awhile, but now are resurfacing.

For two years, the hiring of Chizik made Jacobs into a genius. Maybe he did know what he was doing. Now with a 1-6 start, fans are taking another look at his track record and beginning to question his ability to lead.

Since taking over the athletic department in 2004, the men's basketball team has a 40-74 record against SEC opponents. On the women's side, they are 48-56 in conference play. In baseball, Auburn sits at 101-139 in the SEC during Jacobs's tenure.

As damaging as those numbers are, it's the perception that Jacobs is nothing more than a puppet that makes him so unlikeable among Auburn people. True or not, it?s been widely assumed that Jacobs was Bobby Lowder's inside man until the former banking executive came off Auburn's board in April.

It's a claim that Jacobs has long rejected.

A former player under Pat Dye, he has welcomed the legendary coach back to the athletic department after Dye was exiled by Tuberville following JetGate in 2003. With Dye?s long-time ties to Lowder, many in the community believe that through Jacobs, both still have a say in football matters.
 
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BigWoof31;2252486; said:
Take the academics and integrity out of it.
He's a millionaire now and the toast of the town in California. He'd be a millionaire and the toast of the town in Auburn too.

But why the shit would anyone choose Auburn over California?

If he ever re-joined the college ranks, he seems a lock to be PAC 12 for life.
My fear is Hoke settles into lloyd carr 9-3 seasons with losses to Urban and OSU most years, so they go crawling to Harbaugh. Even with his criticism of the school you'd have to think he'd feel a pull back there. I feel we've gotten lucky on their last two hires that they didn't even seem to look at an excellent coach with roots at the school.
 
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Palpie;2252549; said:
My fear is Hoke settles into lloyd carr 9-3 seasons with losses to Urban and OSU most years, so they go crawling to Harbaugh. Even with his criticism of the school you'd have to think he'd feel a pull back there. I feel we've gotten lucky on their last two hires that they didn't even seem to look at an excellent coach with roots at the school.

It was Harbaugh who turned down TSUN after the RR* CC** left AA***, not the other way around.

* Not the guy who directed From Dusk Til Dawn
** Clown Car
*** Whore
 
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