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another reason to possibly fire Chizik with a bad season this year.

does their short list of replacements resemble Arkansas?

if so, I think Auburn can hire their guy over Arky.
if they choose to keep Chizik 1 more year, I don't think they can hire anyone away from Arky.


the 2 guys I think could be on both lists: Charlie Strong and Butch Davis.

i truly think both of those guys would take Auburn over Arky.
but I don't think either of them would leave Arkansas in order to take Auburn.
 
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Nutriaitch;2223292; said:
the 2 guys I think could be on both lists: Charlie Strong and Butch Davis.


I think the world of Charlie Strong, he's a fantastic coach with tons of recruiting connections throughout Florida and the South. The selfish side of me doesn't want him anywhere near the SEC for some time.

Conventional wisdom always lists Kirby Smart (Bama D-Cord) as a leading candidate for new jobs. But I don't think he'd leave to take a job at one of Alabama's top three rivals.
 
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Tennessee and Auburn are pretty good jobs. National championships can unquestionably be won at both places (and have been). I'd think they could get most second-tier head coaches to make the switch (like, e.g., Steve Sarkisian or Gary Patterson).

Arkansas is a wannabe, at best at a level with places like Wisconsin and UCLA. They can get an up-and-coming coach like Gus Malzahn or Hugh Freeze pretty easily, I'd think (even if Freeze has only a year at another SEC program).

Kentucky is a semi-joke. Bear Bryant made the program respectable in the late '40s, but after that the program is basically a .400 annual result, and Joker Phillips's record essentially mirrors that of coaches since Bryant. UK better be careful, because running coaches that essentially perform like all your historical others sets you up for paying more and more for the same result. They'd be much better served by letting Joker have a couple more years to see if he can improve things. Anyone they could attract would just be another crapshoot. And Joker is at least a class act, something Arkansas hasn't had lately.

The most interesting question to me is, where will Petrino end up next? He's a selfish jerk, but he'll win games for you. I have to think some desperate program (Colorado?) will take a shot at him.
 
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MaxBuck;2225366; said:
Tennessee and Auburn are pretty good jobs. National championships can unquestionably be won at both places (and have been). I'd think they could get most second-tier head coaches to make the switch (like, e.g., Steve Sarkisian or Gary Patterson).

Auburn is little more than a purgatory where you are in servitude to dark overlords (the boosters).

Any coach who takes that job is either completely corrupt or unbelievably naive.
 
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1) Tennessee
2) Auburn
3) Arkansas
4) Kentucky

I think Tennessee is far and away the best job in the list. Not quite in the top group of jobs with Texas, USC, Bama, OSU, etc. but solidly in the second group.

Auburn has had 2 undefeated seasons in the past decade, but I still perceive them more like a Wisconsin or Michigan State. It took a transcendent player being purchased and having an all-time year for them to win the a National title. Perception wise they'll always be #2 in their home state and at best they're #3 in the pecking order in their own division.

Arkansas proved that they can be very good under Petrino. Other than the last two years, what has Arkansas done since they joined the SEC? Recruited McFadden and Felix Jones...

Kentucky is good if you want to play basketball.
 
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Abenaki;2225559; said:
Auburn has had 2 undefeated seasons in the past decade, but I still perceive them more like a Wisconsin or Michigan State. It took a transcendent player being purchased and having an all-time year for them to win the a National title. Perception wise they'll always be #2 in their home state and at best they're #3 in the pecking order in their own division.


they also went undefeated in 1993 (no title)

in fact, since the SEC expanded to 12 teams, Auburn is the only SEC team to have 3 unbeaten seasons.
 
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Abenaki;2225559; said:
Arkansas proved that they can be very good under Petrino. Other than the last two years, what has Arkansas done since they joined the SEC? Recruited McFadden and Felix Jones...


in my IMO, Arkansas is at best, the 5th best coaching job in the West.

LSU, Bama, Auburn, and A&M are all better jobs.

i got LSU slightly ahead of Bama, dude to not having to share any recruits with them. Plus, Louisiana pumps out more NFL talent per capita than any other state.

A&M is right in the middle of fertile recruiting grounds.
them changing conferences and getting out of big brother's shadow should help them land more of those recruits. telling these kids they get to play on National TV in Baton Rouge, Gainesville, Tuscaloosa, etc. is infinitely better than regional TV in Ames, Iowa and Waco, Texas.


Auburn is willing to literally buy a few victories for you if need be.


Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee are all better jobs than Arky as well.

So that leaves the piggies as the 8th best in conference at absolute best.

USCe is probably about equal to Arky.
Mizzou ain't far behind either of them.
 
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I just don't see how Butch Davis isn't toxic...the guys nanny was helping his athletes cheat academically and pay parking tickets.

Did he really not get a show-cause after that? Or has it just not been announced? I'm confused.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/24154977

Earlier today, news broke that UNC had self-reported violations relating to academic irregularities uncovered during the school’s own probe into allegations of agent impropriety involving several of their players. Specifically, it was reported that the academic issues stemmed from a tutor utilized by several members of the football program.
And, according to the latest report, this situation has taken a downright bizarre turn.
ESPN.com‘s Joe Schad reports this evening that the tutor in question is none other than head coach Butch Davis‘ nanny. Rumors are flying around the world of college football that the nanny, among other things, wrote school papers for members of the Tar Heels and that upwards of seven members of UNC’s starting defense have been tutored by this Davis employee.
Schad reports that Marvin Austin, Bruce Carter and Robert Quinn are part of the academic portion of what’s now become an expanded investigation. Austin, of course, is one of the central figures in the agent probe as well.
UNC is scheduled to hold a press conference at 7:30 ET Thursday evening to address the status of the investigation. Davis, along with the school’s chancellor and athletic director, will field questions from the media.
Needless to say, given this latest development, there will be more than a few eager, inquiring minds littered throughout the audience.



Then a week before signing day, Davis left for the NFL and you couldn't blame him for returning to his roots. Davis was arguably on his way to repeating the Miami turnaround at Carolina. The Tar Heels haven't been relevant in football since Mack Brown 13 years ago. Now this.
There are NCAA investigations on two fronts. Just when you thought the South Beach party possibly involving defender Marvin Austin, looked bad, the real sordid stuff hit Thursday. A nanny/tutor/whatever writing papers for players. The school called it "academic misconduct". Let's call it what it is (if true) -- academic fraud.
That's lack of institutional control stuff. Given the current mood among the NCAA infractions committee, that's USC-like stuff, aka coming within an eyelash of the death penalty. Sure it's early. As we speak, an entire armored division of lawyers are headed to Chapel Hill.
But it's these early stages that freak people out. Las Vegas sportsbooks began taking North Carolina-LSU off the board. The line moved North Carolina being favored to LSU. The only tangible "penalties" so far are that a few players were shifted over to the scout team. That's not punitive. That's sensible. Davis likely knows he won't be able to use them against LSU (at least), why practice them with the first team?
No jokes here: This has to hurt North Carolina. It is a great academic institution. It's pride and rep have been wounded. In a way, it's a reminder that this kind of stuff can happen anywhere. If there is any solace, there's always a spoonful of sugar ...
 
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