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Scenarios for Final CFP Playoff Rankings

Every G5 board in the country:

I refuse to watch the cartel's sham playoff until all conferences get an auto-bid, but they'll never agree to that because they know the minute it happens their revenue, facilities and recruiting advantages will start to disappear.
A few weeks ago, my cousin who lives in Minnesota, texted me during the course of an Ohio State game. He said he was watching the game with a North Dakota State fan he is friends with. He says "My friend says the only reason Ohio State won't play NDSU is because they know they'd lose" I wrote back, "Ha ha" and didn't think much of it. Cousin text's back, "No. He's serious. He thinks OSU is afraid of playing NDSU." I texted back, "Oh. He want's me to credit this bullshit? No thanks"

Didn't hear another word. lmao.
 
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Dabo has definitely taken a page out of the Saban playbook on having an elite team keep their "us against the world / nobody respects us" mentality going strong.

Well, considering they're on a 27 game win streak, are defending national champs, and ranked 3rd, it's not like Dabo has to manufacture the motivation.
 
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A few weeks ago, my cousin who lives in Minnesota, texted me during the course of an Ohio State game. He said he was watching the game with a North Dakota State fan he is friends with. He says "My friend says the only reason Ohio State won't play NDSU is because they know they'd lose" I wrote back, "Ha ha" and didn't think much of it. Cousin text's back, "No. He's serious. He thinks OSU is afraid of playing NDSU." I texted back, "Oh. He want's me to credit this bullshit? No thanks"

Didn't hear another word. lmao.

Yep, these nutjobs really believe that if their conference gets an autobid, that Nevada-Reno or Ball State will be competing with us for recruits.
 
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College Football Playoff Picture: Who Will The Buckeyes Play And Where?

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Ohio State has very likely punched its ticket for the College Football Playoff already. Now the big questions are who they might play and where.

There are still a lot of moving parts, but heading into Championship Game week, we have a decent sense for the most likely scenarios.

The first variable is whether Ohio State beats Wisconsin, and by how much. A loss could send the Buckeyes tumbling down to No. 3 or 4, or possibly out of the picture altogether. A decisive win would likely keep them at No. 1, while a close win could leave them vulnerable to getting jumped by LSU.

The general consensus right now seems to be that LSU and Ohio State would still get in, even with a close loss this weekend.

But unlike in some previous years, the other four Power 5 championship games will also have a say in who might get into the Playoff field. That means there are a LOT of moving parts.

First, some ground rules based on history. There are enough unbeaten and one-loss teams that it’s very unlikely that anyone gets in as a two-loss team, conference champion or not.

Teams like Alabama, Oregon, Wisconsin, Penn State, Minnesota, Florida, and Notre Dame are basically not in the picture if history holds true.

In the SEC, the LSU Tigers will likely get into the Playoff unless they suffer a blowout loss. Georgia would get in with a win, but be out with a loss.

The Big 12’s title game pairs Oklahoma, who would likely be in if they win and LSU wins. Baylor might be able to get in with a win and an LSU win, but might also need Utah to lose.

In the Pac-12, Utah might be able to get in ahead of Oklahoma if the Utes win and LSU wins. But they would seemingly have a better chance to get in if Baylor wins the Big 12 game.

Clemson likely has to win against 29-point underdog Virginia to get in. They’re in with a win and quite possibly out with a loss.

Before we dive into some specific scenarios, please note: no matter what you’ve heard, the top seed does NOT specifically get to choose where it plays.

The College Football Playoff committee will work to ensure that the No. 1 team does not have to face an opponent in a location that could give the No. 4 seed a home-field advantage.

That means that if OSU is ranked 1 and Utah is 4, the Buckeyes will almost certainly play in the Peach Bowl in Atlanta. If the Bucks are No. 1 and face a team like Georgia or Clemson, they would play in the Fiesta Bowl instead.

Assuming the committee doesn’t do anything too crazy this Tuesday, like jumping LSU over OSU, here’s a look at what might happen in a few different scenarios this weekend.

All favorites win

Ohio State, LSU, Clemson, Oklahoma, and Utah all win.

The Buckeyes likely remain No. 1, although a close Buckeye win and a blowout LSU win could give the Tigers the top seed.

If OSU stays atop the poll, they would face either No. 4 Oklahoma or Utah in the Peach Bowl. The Utes are currently one spot ahead of the Sooners, but OU will probably end up with a better resume.

Then it’s just a matter of whether the committee prioritizes resume (which favors Oklahoma) or the more complete team (which favors Utah, which has a defense).

Either way, a top-seeded Buckeye team would go to the Peach Bowl, leaving LSU and Clemson to play in the Fiesta Bowl.

If LSU jumped the Buckeyes, OSU would face Clemson in the Fiesta Bowl.

Ohio State, LSU, Clemson, Baylor win

You can repeat the conversation about LSU and OSU being ranked No. 1 from above.

Clemson is a clear No. 3.

Baylor needs to win the Big 12 title game, and likely also needs Oregon to beat Utah in order to get the Bears in.

Utah was ranked three spots ahead of Baylor last week, meaning that the committee sees a big difference between the teams. If Utah wins, Baylor would have to do something pretty spectacular to make that leap.

In this, the No. 1 team would play Baylor in the Peach and No. 2 would face Clemson in the Fiesta.

Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia win

It sure seems like this would end with two SEC teams making the field. Georgia would clearly be in, likely as the No. 3 seed.

Clemson would be No. 2 and Ohio State No. 1.

That would leave the Buckeyes facing No. 4 LSU in the Fiesta Bowl and Clemson taking on Georgia in the Peach Bowl.

If Georgia blows LSU out, the Tigers might get left out. But given Georgia’s glacial offense, that’s not particularly likely.

Oklahoma, Baylor, and Utah should all be rooting very, very hard for LSU this week.

Clemson, Georgia, Oklahoma, Utah win

This is the worst-case scenario for Ohio State, pairing a Buckeye loss with a lot of resume-building wins. But there’s a decent chance that the Buckeyes still get in the field if they lose close.

They would probably be No. 3 or 4, with Clemson at No. 1 and Georgia at No. 2. The committee might shuffle these numbers a little to ensure that Georgia and LSU aren’t playing a rematch in the semifinals.

If OSU is the No. 4 seed, they would almost certainly play whichever southern team in the Peach Bowl. If they’re No. 3, they’d likely head to the Fiesta.

All underdogs win

This is the kind of beautiful chaos that makes college football the best sport in the world. But it’s not likely to happen.

If it does, Oklahoma and Utah would definitely be out.

Georgia might be No. 1, with Ohio State and LSU at 2 and 3 in some order, and either Clemson or Baylor at 4.

Either way, in that case the Buckeyes and LSU would play in the Fiesta Bowl.

Entire article: https://theozone.net/2019/12/35758/
 
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Bowl projections: Ohio State and LSU have locked up College Football Playoff bids

A look at Jerry Palm's updated bowl projections just one weeks until the College Football Playoff is set


I am projecting Oklahoma to win the Big 12 and take the fourth spot in the playoff. It would take on Ohio State in the Peach Bowl.

Penn State is already ranked ahead of Florida and is expected to still be in the final CFP Rankings because of a better schedule and higher-quality wins. Wisconsin will likely jump both this week after the win over Minnesota.

Jan. 1 Rose Pasadena, Calif.
Big Ten vs. Pac-12
Wisconsin vs. Oregon

Dec. 30 Orange Miami Gardens, Fla.
ACC vs. SEC/B1G/ND
Virginia vs. Penn State

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...have-locked-up-college-football-playoff-bids/

Who knows how they will be ranked in the final CFP rankings?; however, I would think a 2 loss Penn State would get the Rose Bowl over a 3 loss Wisconsin.
 
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Well, I hope these projections are wrong. Went out on a limb and purchased Fiesta Bowl tickets since im here in southern Arizona. Guess the alternate is to sell them back to some SEC SEC SEC fans at the proper price range if the Bucks end up in Atlanta
 
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Well, I hope these projections are wrong. Went out on a limb and purchased Fiesta Bowl tickets since im here in southern Arizona. Guess the alternate is to sell them back to some SEC SEC SEC fans at the proper price range if the Bucks end up in Atlanta

Not to laugh at you... but... laughing at idea that SEC fans will travel farther than 1 hour into Texas
 
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Laying Out the Playoff Chances for CFP Committee’s Top Eight Teams

The top 10 of the College Football Playoff committee’s new rankings turned out mostly as we expected. (We severely underestimated how far Alabama would fall.) The four projected playoff teams remain the same as last week and the main potential scenarios we’ve laid out previously still hold.

Keeping that in mind, we thought it’d be helpful to lay out the case for each of the eight teams left in the playoff chase. What does a win, or loss, on Championship Weekend do to each remaining contender’s chances of finishing in the top four?

No. 1 Ohio State
Win vs. No. 10 Wisconsin in the Big Ten championship: IN

Loss vs. No. 10 Wisconsin in the Big Ten championship: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. It’s complicated, but it’s easier to see the Buckeyes staying in the top four with a loss than it is to see the same result for any of the other teams currently in the top four. Earlier today, we explained a scenario that forces the committee to choose between Ohio State and Wisconsin for the final playoff spot and concluded that the Badgers would probably get in as Big Ten champions. A Clemson loss, however, likely keeps OSU in the picture because even at 12–1, Ohio State has a good chance at being ranked higher than enough teams from a group that includes the Pac-12 champ, Big 12 champ and 12–1 Clemson.

No. 2 LSU
Win vs. No. 4 Georgia in the SEC championship: IN

Loss vs. No. 4 Georgia in the SEC championship: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Similarly to the Buckeyes above them, the Tigers will probably get the benefit of the doubt if there’s enough chaos, and stay in the committee’s final top four. However, if Ohio State, Clemson and Oklahoma win their respective conference title games, a loss to Georgia could leave LSU as the first team on the outside looking in. Strong emphasis on could.

No. 3 Clemson
Win vs. No. 23 Virginia in the ACC championship: IN

Loss vs. No. 23 Virginia in the ACC championship: Maybe OUT. A loss to Virginia during an extremely weak year for the ACC would be a complete embarrassment for Dabo Swinney & Co. A one-loss conference champ like Utah, Oklahoma or Baylor would have a good shot to finish ahead of the ACC runner-up Tigers; so would either team currently ranked ahead of them were they to lose their conference title games.

No. 4 Georgia
Win vs. No. 2 LSU in SEC championship: IN

Loss vs. No. 2 LSU in SEC championship: OUT. We can’t picture any permutation where the 11–2 SEC runner-up Bulldogs finish in the top four no matter how wild things may get this weekend.

No. 5 Utah
Win vs. No. 13 Oregon in Pac-12 championship: Probably IN if LSU beats UGA and there’s further craziness. If every Power 5 favorite wins Saturday, there’s a more-than-small possibility 12–1 Big 12 champion Oklahoma jumps Utah for the No. 4 spot. Fair or not, Baylor in all likelihood needs the entire Big 12 title game to go like the first half did in its first game against OU in order to jump a 12–1 Utah. And that may not be enough. So the Utes’ best opportunity is looking very good Friday night, and crossing their fingers something nutty happens Saturday.

Loss vs. No. 13 Oregon in Pac-12 championship: OUT

No. 6 Oklahoma and No. 7 Baylor
Win in Big 12 championship: We’re lumping these two teams together because the Big 12 champ is the furthest from being in the “win and you’re in” category. As mentioned above, there’s a chance the committee puts the Sooners in over the Utes based on résumé and a smaller chance it does the same for the Bears. In a different scenario, the Sooners and Bears need Oregon to upset Utah in the Pac-12 title game and/or Virginia to shock Clemson in the ACC, while Ohio State and LSU maintain their top-two standing to come closer to an invite.

Loss in Big 12 Championship: OUT

Entire article: https://www.si.com/college/2019/12/04/college-football-playoff-scenarios-championship-weekend
 
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Ranking college football conference championship games by playoff implications

1. SEC

No. 2 LSU vs. No. 4 Georgia (4 p.m. ET, CBS)

Why it's at the top: Because there is no debate for the fourth spot unless LSU knocks Georgia out of contention. If the Bulldogs pull off the upset, though, the one-loss SEC champs would likely finish in the top four with LSU -- eliminating both the Big 12 and Pac-12 champions in the process. According to the Allstate Playoff Predictor, LSU has an 81.3% chance to make the CFP even with a loss. That would be the easiest scenario for the committee, as the top four would likely be No. 1 Ohio State, No. 2 Clemson, No. 3 Georgia and No. 4 LSU.

What's at stake: It's possible for LSU to overtake Ohio State in the final ranking, but without Ohio State actually losing, it's an extremely close debate. With No. 8 Wisconsin and No. 10 Penn State both in the committee's top 10, plus No. 14 Michigan and No. 20 Cincinnati also ranked opponents, the Buckeyes' résumé will be tough to beat. If LSU can win with style -- and defense -- against Georgia, it would have the best win the country to go along with three other CFP top 25 wins.

"As we've talked in past weeks, both really have dynamic offenses, both have good defenses," Mullens said. "Ohio State's is just a little ahead at this point."

So is its résumé. It didn't help that Alabama sank seven spots to No. 12 after its loss to Auburn, but the committee still holds LSU's win over the Tide in high regard, since it happened in Tuscaloosa and with star QB Tua Tagovailoa on the field.

"We understand what happened at the time," Mullens said. "We're aware of exactly what happened that game, where the teams were going into that game."

2. Pac-12
No. 5 Utah vs. No. 13 Oregon (Friday, 8 p.m. ET, ABC)

Why it's No. 2: Because if Oregon wins, the Pac-12 is eliminated and the Big 12 champion is likely in, regardless of whether it's Oklahoma or Baylor. If Utah wins (and Georgia loses), then the debate begins. So much attention has been given to Utah, it's overshadowed that Oregon is more than capable of winning. ESPN's Football Power Index gives the Utes a 51.1% chance to win, essentially a coin-flip game. If it's close, and Oklahoma beats Baylor soundly, that could influence the committee's final vote. Remember, Utah is not ahead of Oklahoma right now because of its résumé -- it has not defeated a single CFP top 25 opponent yet. The committee likes the Utes because of how consistently well they have played. "When we look at Utah, we see a season-long balance of very consistent play on both sides of the ball," Mullens said. "Very dominant wins. Their only loss is on a Friday night on the road at a No. 22-ranked team when a key player on offense missed the majority of the game." If Utah is going to stay ahead of the Sooners, it might have to stay consistently dominant for one more game.

What's at stake: A win, plus a Georgia loss and an Oklahoma loss. According to the Allstate Playoff Predictor, Utah would have the fourth-best chance of any team to make the CFP under that scenario (33.1%). Utah would probably have a better chance of winning a debate over Baylor than Oklahoma, based in part on how the committee has viewed them to this point, but also how each of them has won this season. Baylor has had some close wins against lesser opponents (TCU, Texas Tech), while Utah has been consistently the better team.

3. Big 12
No. 6 Oklahoma vs. No. 7 Baylor (noon ET, ABC)

Why it's No. 3: Because it's the third piece of the playoff puzzle, and its relevance will be determined by who wins the SEC and the Pac-12. Assuming Georgia loses, the winner of this game enters the debate, but it could be even easier if Oregon beats Utah, as well. Oklahoma stands a better chance at beating Utah in a debate because it would have two top-10 wins, both against Baylor, and another top-25 win against Oklahoma State. Utah's only win against a ranked opponent would be Oregon, but the Sooners can't afford to beat Baylor the same way they did during the regular season -- needing a 25-point comeback, the largest in school history.

What's at stake: Utah and Georgia both lose. According to the Allstate Playoff Predictor, Oklahoma has a 53% chance to make the CFP, while Baylor is fifth at 27%.

4. Big Ten
No. 1 Ohio State vs. No. 8 Wisconsin (8 p.m. ET, FOX)

What's at stake: Even if the Buckeyes lose, assuming it's a close game, they're probably still in and Wisconsin is out because the Badgers have two losses, one of which was to the Buckeyes on Oct. 26. Ohio State has won seven straight against Wisconsin, including the past two meetings between the teams in the Big Ten title game.

5. ACC
No. 3 Clemson vs. No. 24 Virginia (7:30 p.m. ET, ABC)

What's at stake: Because the Tigers are averaging 50.4 points per game since Oct. 12, and Clemson shouldn't lose to the three-loss Cavaliers, making their first appearance in the ACC title game. If Clemson does lose, the Tigers could miss the playoff because they wouldn't have a conference title to compensate for an awful schedule. It would be hard for the selection committee to deem Clemson "unequivocally" one of the four best teams in the country with the No. 85 strength of schedule -- and easily the worst loss in the Power 5 title games.

Entire article: https://www.espn.com/college-footba...rence-championship-games-playoff-implications

Re: If Clemson does lose, the Tigers could miss the playoff because they wouldn't have a conference title to compensate for an awful schedule. It would be hard for the selection committee to deem Clemson "unequivocally" one of the four best teams in the country with the No. 85 strength of schedule -- and easily the worst loss in the Power 5 title games.

Wouldn't that be a dirty rotten shame? :lol: It wouldn't upset me at all to see Clemson lost to Virginia.
 
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