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Rose Bowl, Wisconsin +2.5 vs TCU (ov/un 58.5) Jan 1 5:10 ET, ESPN

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stkoran;1845909; said:
But I'm pretty sure that most on this board have admitted that TCU has the talent to beat anyone on any given day. The argument against title game inclusion is that they didn't play a strong enough SOS to get there. Sure, the win would have been nice, but I don't think this game was a black eye for the conference, nor do I think it somehow changes the non-AQ narrative.
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At least TCU was in the SWC, and they have a nice history. If Tejas didn't flee to the Big XII, they'd be in an AQ conference. I think with this win and whatever the Hell is going on at UT, their recruiting will vastly improve.
 
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Nicknam4;1845913; said:
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Didn't happen in this game per se - but, any coach who cannot avoid situational screw-ups belongs only in the (can't count to 12) Bob Davie Hall of Infamy. Bielema always seems to me to be that type of coach - mistake prone, poor judgment.

This time it was the poor judgment that did him and Wisky in.
 
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This time it was the poor judgment that did him and Wisky in.
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I think it was their oline not man handling the line. They should have given tolzien much more time to throw and much bigger holes for the RB's. They started out great but they let up and gave tcu confidence. Not enough intensity.
 
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Emperor Brutus;1845800; said:
This, right now we win the Big Ten and not just talking heads but fans all over the country say "who cares the Big Ten sucks." Like it or not that matters, if this keeps up year after year the Big Ten becomes the Big East in perception. If you don't think it matters and you don't root for other Big Ten teams OOC that's fine with me, don't cry if we go undefeated along with an SEC team and a PAC team and get left out though all anyone will say is how weak a conference we play in. I hope we win or it will be awful all year.
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Good teams transcend their crappy conferences - if Ohio State goes 13-0 next year, then the Bucks will get the "media love" and likely end up in the BCS title game. Really, being from a crappy conference hasn't hurt Boise State or TCU in the eyes of the national media.

Steve19;1845830; said:
Woody Hayes: From every bad thing, you get a good thing.

Good things:

It should be clear to everyone that Ohio State cannot schedule such a weak SOS and hope to win a NC. The days when one could argue that "we have to make it through the toughest conference in America" are well and truly over.
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Agreed. But Ohio State makes a conscious effort to schedule one "power" program every year (Texas, USC, Miami, Oklahoma, etc.). However, I would like to see us drop one of the MAC teams in favor of a Big East or ACC team.

BrutusMaximus;1845839; said:
They played big 10 football, in the big 10, to get to the rose bowl.
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Has Ohio State played "Big Ten football" in 2010? Not busting your balls (I know that you have been critical of Ohio State's offense in the past), but I don't think that it's fair to put Ohio State in the same boat as Wisky, Sparty, and Iowa ... at least not this season. I hardly think that this year's Buckeye offense has been the "three yards and a cloud of dust" type that has been so typical of Big Ten football. (And I won't even bother to mention that Michigan runs the famous "spread" offense, orchestrated by the maestro himself, that was supposed to revolutionize college football :wink: ).
 
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LordJeffBuck;1845964; said:
Really, being from a crappy conference hasn't hurt Boise State or TCU in the eyes of the national media.
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Other than TCU watching the ducks and plainestiggerseagles play next week instead of being in the BCSCG - and Boise being dropped out of a BCS Bowl to the whateverthehell that was they played in.

TOSU has the national prestige to overcome a "crappy conference" thing as far as a BCS bowl bid. But it just might cost you if you are a one loss champ competing against a one loss SEC Champ for a bid. Then, a poor conference perception could screw you.
 
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Gatorubet;1845971; said:
Other than TCU watching the ducks and plainestiggerseagles play next week instead of being in the BCSCG - and Boise being dropped out of a BCS Bowl to the whateverthehell that was they played in.
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In 1999, Marshall went 13-0, beat BYU in a bowl game 21-3, and on the season outscored its opponents 463 to 137 ... they finished 10th in the final AP poll, behind three 1-loss teams, three 2-loss teams, and two 3-loss teams. This year, an undefeated TCU will finish 2nd or 3rd in the final polls. Big difference in media perception in such a short amount of time. And if you recall, both TCU and BSU played in a BCS bowl last season (the Fiesta Bowl).

Gatorubet;1845971; said:
TOSU has the national prestige to overcome a "crappy conference" thing as far as a BCS bowl bid. But it just might cost you if you are a one loss champ competing against a one loss SEC Champ for a bid. Then, a poor conference perception could screw you.
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Agreed. But TOSU (thanks for adding the "T" by the way) has the best talent in the Big Ten, the best coaching in the Big Ten, and a tremendous home field advantage. If we can't go undefeated, then we probably shouldn't be in the BCS title game. Even still, a one-loss Ohio State team would most likely be selected over a one-loss Pac-12, Big IIX, ACC, or Big East team.

You'll get no argument from me that the SEC isn't the best conference, but until you guys can figure out a way to get two teams into the BCS title game, I think that a one-loss Ohio State team will always have a good shot.
 
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Buckeneye;1845937; said:
I watched a Wisky team do more to beat/outcoach themselves then TCU ever did.

Getting away from the strengths of your team. Poor play calling and a general lack of regard for the (painfully) obvious calls that we're in fact working. Shades of the 06' Florida game.

TCU wouldn't have been able to stop Ball or Clay all day. Hell, they didn't even slow Ball down - 132 yards, 22 carries at 6ypc. That's just getting it done. Good god, Clay was averaging 7ypc.

Why they didn't run through TCU, right over them, roughshod - grind them into nothing (much like they did to most of their competition) I blame solely on coaching & play calling.

All they had to do was pound, pound, Play fake and pound more. Tolzein should have thrown maybe 15 passes at most. A couple more shots on 1st down would have been intelligent too. At one point early on (when they got the big play to the fullback) you saw TCU crashing 9 into the box. Straight out committing to the run. Why? They knew early on they couldn't man on man beat the Badgers. Your average lineman was 50-60 lbs lighter then the Wisconsin offensive tackles.


The entire year Bucky had scores close at halftime, but kept pounding and making it ugly in the late 3rd/4th qtr. Commitment to the running game. More importantly the power run game. Not those stupid ass stretch plays that did next to nothing.

Why the lack of killer instinct? Why not feel the need to line up and say "I'm going to hurt you" ?


Brett flat out failed as a head coach today. I won't lie, it was quite amusing too. Regardless if it was a Big10 team in the Rose or not, I just can't stress how terrible this is going to be with a TCU victory now.
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Totally agree. The really shocking thing is that Wisconsin ran the ball 69% of the time. It's shocking, because anybody watching the game could tell that Wisconsin was stupid for even attempting to pass. They could have run the ball 75% or 80% of the time and still averaged better than 5 YPC. But they didn't, and they have nobody to blame but themselves. TCU couldn't stop the run, and Wisconsin didn't force the issue.
 
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CentralMOBuck;1845811; said:
What?
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In my utter depression over Big 10 play today I began to think that I couldn't bear up to a Buckeye loss --- and given Michigan State, Michigan and Wisconsin's performances I wouldn't bet on the Bucks to win, in which case having those two sit would at least give the Big 10 and the Buckeyes some cover. This has been a black day for the conference. All three of those teams were pathetic.
 
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cincibuck;1846004; said:
In my utter depression over Big 10 play today I began to think that I couldn't bear up to a Buckeye loss --- and given Michigan State, Michigan and Wisconsin's performances I wouldn't bet on the Bucks to win, in which case having those two sit would at least give the Big 10 and the Buckeyes some cover. This has been a black day for the conference. All three of those teams were pathetic.
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Not sure I'll ever understand your POV. You despise Notre Dame yet seem to have no ill will towards scUM and you're depressed over losses by other conference members.

I'm depressed by Buckeye losses that's it. I rooted for the Big-10 in bowls, except scUM, but I don't give a shit about how horrible they were if we win on Tuesday.
 
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