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Rose Bowl Recap

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Pretty hard on Posey. I thought he made big strides this year. Keep in mind it's his first year as a starter and he didn't have a lot of balls thrown his way last year.

Totally agree on Homan. It's a travesty that he didn't make 1st team all Big-10. He's starting to live up to those Hawk comparisons.
 
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muffler dragon;1633593; said:
To me, the use of "overrated" pisses on the quality of win. That's the only portion of your post that I'm not particularly keen on. Other than that, thank you for sharing.
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I realize that Ohio State played a great game, but I still think that Oregon was a bit overrated ... certainly they were not an unstoppable offensive juggernaut.

By way of comparison ... last year in the Fiesta Bowl, Ohio State played a high-powered Texas offense. Ohio State, with All Americans James Laurinaitis and Malcolm Jenkins, played a great game defensively, but Texas still managed to score 24 points, and rack up 468 yards of offense and 33 first downs. This year, Oregon's supposedly high-powered managed only 17 points, 260 yards of offense, and 12 first downs. Was Ohio State's defense that much more dominating this year over last year? Or was Oregon's offense not quite in the same league as a truly great offense like Texas had last season? If you answer "yes" to the latter question, then it follows that Oregon's offense was overrated.

OregonBuckeye;1633711; said:
Pretty hard on Posey. I thought he made big strides this year. Keep in mind it's his first year as a starter and he didn't have a lot of balls thrown his way last year.
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I thought that Posey would be the next Michael Jenkins, a guy who could beat you deep but also made tough catches in traffic. Perhaps my expectations were a bit unrealistic, but Posey was a five-star recruit who was impressive in limited action as a true freshman.

As a sophomore in 2001, Michael Jenkins caught 49 passes for 988 yards (20.2 ypc) and 3 touchdowns in 12 games (82.3 ypg); as a sophomore in 2009, Posey caught 60 passes for 828 yards (13.8 ypc) and 8 touchdowns in 13 games (63.7 ypg). I know that Posey had a young and often erratic Terrelle Pryor throwing him the ball this season ... but remember that Jenkins's quarterback in 2001 was Steve Bellisari.

My criticism of Posey has been his inability to make the tough catches while tightly covered, something which Jenkins mastered; Jenkins was always making catches to move the chains. At 6'3", Posey definitely has the size to make plays in traffic.

Of course, Posey had a break-out game in the Rose Bowl, so I feel a lot more confident that he will become a true "number one" receiver next year.

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One thing that I forgot to mention in my initial write up ... Three of Tressel's best offensive game plans have come in bowl games against teams that the media has touted as having unstoppable offenses - Kansas State in 2003, Notre Dame in 2005, and Oregon in 2009. Coincidence? I think not. Tress must read the papers, too.
 
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Part of the reason our defense did so well was that our Offense kept them off the field. Special teams kept putting the D in tough spots and they really responded, IMO. A part of the success for our offense was the overall weakness of the Oregon D. I think we played against probably 3 or 4 better defenses in the big 10. Not to take away from our win, but if we were facing an opponent with a better D who made more stops, that would have been even more we had to rely on our D. And we might have had an outcome like last year's bowl game.

Oregon played a good game defensively imo, they are just used to the usual Pac10 track meet games. Not a grind it out affair like we gave them.
 
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LordJeffBuck;1633112; said:
20. With their win in the Rose Bowl, Ohio State now has five wins this season against opponents with at least ten victories: Navy (10-4), Wisconsin (10-3), Penn State (11-2), Iowa (10-2, with one game remaining), and Oregon (10-3).
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Is this a first? If not, I'm sure it's a very short list.
 
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osugrad21;1633133; said:
Great stuff LJB.

Look for those special teams to be tightened up next year starting with a heavy dose in the spring.
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My thoughts exactly. For the first time in memory, we won a big game IN SPITE of our special teams. Other than a sensational punt by Thoma, our special teams was...unspecial against Oregon and that was a painful problem all year. If we can get back to typical Tressel special teams next year...watch out.
 
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LordJeffBuck;1633768; said:
I realize that Ohio State played a great game, but I still think that Oregon was a bit overrated ... certainly they were not an unstoppable offensive juggernaut.

By way of comparison ... last year in the Fiesta Bowl, Ohio State played a high-powered Texas offense. Ohio State, with All Americans James Laurinaitis and Malcolm Jenkins, played a great game defensively, but Texas still managed to score 24 points, and rack up 468 yards of offense and 33 first downs. This year, Oregon's supposedly high-powered managed only 17 points, 260 yards of offense, and 12 first downs. Was Ohio State's defense that much more dominating this year over last year? Or was Oregon's offense not quite in the same league as a truly great offense like Texas had last season? If you answer "yes" to the latter question, then it follows that Oregon's offense was overrated.


I thought that Posey would be the next Michael Jenkins, a guy who could beat you deep but also made tough catches in traffic. Perhaps my expectations were a bit unrealistic, but Posey was a five-star recruit who was impressive in limited action as a true freshman.

As a sophomore in 2001, Michael Jenkins caught 49 passes for 988 yards (20.2 ypc) and 3 touchdowns in 12 games (82.3 ypg); as a sophomore in 2009, Posey caught 60 passes for 828 yards (13.8 ypc) and 8 touchdowns in 13 games (63.7 ypg). I know that Posey had a young and often erratic Terrelle Pryor throwing him the ball this season ... but remember that Jenkins's quarterback in 2001 was Steve Bellisari.

My criticism of Posey has been his inability to make the tough catches while tightly covered, something which Jenkins mastered; Jenkins was always making catches to move the chains. At 6'3", Posey definitely has the size to make plays in traffic.

Of course, Posey had a break-out game in the Rose Bowl, so I feel a lot more confident that he will become a true "number one" receiver next year.

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One thing that I forgot to mention in my initial write up ... Three of Tressel's best offensive game plans have come in bowl games against teams that the media has touted as having unstoppable offenses - Kansas State in 2003, Notre Dame in 2005, and Oregon in 2009. Coincidence? I think not. Tress must read the papers, too.
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I think you're spot on with Posey...I too expected better hands. And frankly, if he hands had been more sure, he'd have racked up another 200 yards this year. But, as always, I have high hopes for next season...if he continues to improve, he'll be just what we need and expected.
 
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Great work LJB! I think we need to get a thicker skin to the media criticism. But, it is possible that the media perception could cost us in the future. It hasn't really happened yet has it?
This was an extraordinarily tough year for the coaching staff(injuries to the offensive line and sickness and general youth) and perhaps they did their best job to date. :bow:
And the kids just never gave up and kept working hard to get better. Lots of credit goes their way for the season outcome, also!
 
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Give Posey a little more time to fully develop as the go-to guy. It's his first year as a starter, he'll start to get better hands and confidence. The Rose Bowl certainly gave him some big game experience, a huge breakthrough game for both him and TP in my opinion.
 
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I think we can make a strong run nex year, but i fear that it will be similar to our 2007 year.

On the Posey statement - i dont think he is at all disappointing, I am actually glad that he is our big play reciever... Also, I am loving Sanzenbacher's play. Tough kid with lots of good route running ability. Also, keep in mind that Carter wasn't playing that game, woulda been nice to see him in a big game. Can't wait to see the progression of Boom and Zoom. We will be great next year as long as we have some strong defense again.
 
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