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Rich Rodriguez (official thread of last laughs)

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Oneshot;1596301; said:
Does this mean that if Michigan gets caught for not filing proper hours, they have to forfeit all their... wins... this.. season... err...
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Not likely as it didn't make any players ineligible. More likely that Michigan would lose practice time in the future.
 
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MaliBuckeye;1596310; said:
They could get worse?
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Well at least they'll be able to practice the entire month of December to get ready for their bowl game. That'll help them improve. Oh nevermind........

Over the 2 past years, I've received the best Christmas gifts ever- They just keep giving and giving throughout the year. And just like Tiny Tater said in a Christmas Carol "God bless us one and all."
 
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Let's not sell Dick-Rod short here. Last here he went 3-9. This year after losing to Ohio Staet he will be 5-7. Hey that is a 67% improvement!!! How many coaches do you know that won 67% more games this year than last.

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Kind of reminds me of my sophomore year at Ohio State living on the 9th floor of Smith Hall. Two freshman (Whitey and Burley) were roommates and both were in a freshman chemistry course. Whitey was actually bragging that he got 3 times the score that Burley got on a midterm. Whitey got a 6 and Burley got a 2. The maximun possible score was 100. Anyway maybe it would be funnier if you had lived on the 9th floor of Smith Hall in 1967/68 and knew the guys. I always wondered what became of Whitey and Burley, for whatever reason they never retrurned to school after their freshman year. Whitey and/or Burley if you read this, drop me a PM and let me know how you are doing. :biggrin:
 
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BuckTwenty;1596294; said:
NFBuck hinted at it there, but was anyone else's first reaction to hearing about the log book not being filed was that Rich Rod shreaded that bitch?
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That was my first thought also. Too damn lazy to find the article (yes, i know where the search function is, hence the lazy remark), but I do believe that he claimed the records he was shredding at WVU was nothing more than the players' workout schedules/routines.
 
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Here are a few case studies

Louisiana-Lafayette had two issues: (1) a men's bball player participated while academically ineligible because the school counted correspondence classes that it should not have and (2) the men's football team exceeded the voluntary workout limits because S&C coaches and players reported back attendance for voluntary workouts to the football coaches.

The NCAA found that the football violation was not egregious, but rather due to a failure to adequately educate the coaches as to the specific rules regarding voluntary workouts. Moreover, they found that the violations were not intentional. However, they found that the bball and football violations together amounted to a failure to monitor.

Penalties:
-bball had to forfeit games and tourney money
- football lost 5 hours of mandatory practice time for one week
- two years probation
- NCAA compliance seminar for certain personnel

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Another from University of Memphis: (1) volleyball coach exceeded mandatory practice limits and (2) men's track team members forged transcripts.

NCAA found failure to monitor both for volleyball and men's track. Penalties:

- Public reprimand and censure
- Two years probation
- Reduction in preseason practices from 29 to 26
- Reduction in spring conditioning by 1 week
- NCAA compliance seminar for volleyball coach

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FIU: Oline coach held impermissible skills instruction sessions during three summers (85.5 hours). NCAA found a failure to monitor as the sessions were "common knowledge" amongst the athletics department. The oline coach also violated his duty of confidentiality when he discussed the investigation with student-athletes

FIU self-imposed penalties:
- coach fired and position removed during 2004 season and 2005 spring
- preseason camp reduced by 4 practices
- 171 hours of practice/conditioning eliminated over 3 years (2-for-1 penalty)
- one less coach permitted to recruit off-campus between april and may for two seasons
- contractual penalties for AD and head football coach (no cost of living increases)

NCAA added:
- 3 years probation
- show cause order for anyone who rehires the oline coach for 3 years
 
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Louisiana-Lafayette had two issues: (1) a men's bball player participated while academically ineligible because the school counted correspondence classes that it should not have and (2) the men's football team exceeded the voluntary workout limits because S&C coaches and players reported back attendance for voluntary workouts to the football coaches.

The NCAA found that the football violation was not egregious, but rather due to a failure to adequately educate the coaches as to the specific rules regarding voluntary workouts. Moreover, they found that the violations were not intentional. However, they found that the bball and football violations together amounted to a failure to monitor.

Penalties:
-bball had to forfeit games and tourney money
- football lost 5 hours of mandatory practice time for one week
- two years probation
- NCAA compliance seminar for certain personnel

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Another from University of Memphis: (1) volleyball coach exceeded mandatory practice limits and (2) men's track team members forged transcripts.

NCAA found failure to monitor both for volleyball and men's track. Penalties:

- Public reprimand and censure
- Two years probation
- Reduction in preseason practices from 29 to 26
- Reduction in spring conditioning by 1 week
- NCAA compliance seminar for volleyball coach

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FIU: Oline coach held impermissible skills instruction sessions during three summers (85.5 hours). NCAA found a failure to monitor as the sessions were "common knowledge" amongst the athletics department. The oline coach also violated his duty of confidentiality when he discussed the investigation with student-athletes

FIU self-imposed penalties:
- coach fired and position removed during 2004 season and 2005 spring
- preseason camp reduced by 4 practices
- 171 hours of practice/conditioning eliminated over 3 years (2-for-1 penalty)
- one less coach permitted to recruit off-campus between april and may for two seasons
- contractual penalties for AD and head football coach (no cost of living increases)

NCAA added:
- 3 years probation
- show cause order for anyone who rehires the oline coach for 3 years
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Great input. Not enough known about the RR particulars to make a clear call, but it certainly sounds like the potential is there for a failure to monitor.

So you play the AD role:

You have a coach under contract for a lot of money, much of which you still have to pay if you let him go.

That coach has been a colossal failure, but there are arguments to give him time to put in his system. And if you don't give him time you have to retrace your steps to get back to where you were.

However, you are getting an earful from the alumni that they are not fond of this guy on or off the field. These alumni not only help fund your football program, they contribute heavily to the university itself. So it is not entirely your call and you are getting serious heat.

You have a potential infraction on your hands.

You can:

A. Fight like hell to be found innocent and stand behind your coach even if the hammer does come down. Bet that RR really can lead you to the promised land and take the risk that a year from now you may still be riding a losing horse and have lost your chance to get out of jail free. And do this knowing that in a year or two you may fire him anyhow, to the laughter and derision of the press and alumni.

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B. When the NCAA comes knocking present the "facts" in a light that encourages the identification of an infraction minor enough to not seriously hurt your program, but substantial enough to justify nullifying RR's contract. (If you are talking failure to monitor it seems pretty easy to make the case that you have not done so.) Cut your losses, make the alumni happy, and start the painful process of undoing the damage.

Not conspiracy theory - just good business.

As mentioned earlier, the timing on this is interesting. The powers that be at UM may be rooting for OSU this weekend as well. If you are leaning towards option B a win over the Buckeyes would only muddy the waters.
 
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jenkinswoody;1596333; said:
Well at least they'll be able to practice the entire month of December to get ready for their bowl game. That'll help them improve. Oh nevermind........
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Technically, they'd only be able to practice for about three weeks in December, since their bowl game would be one of those really prestigious ones played on December 21 and sponsored by a bankrupt pizza chain.

But with Rodriguez and Barwis cracking the whips and shredding the practice time participation reports, it'll feel like they practiced the whole month of December.

Muuhhhahahhahaha!
 
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We've been saying this from day 1. The longer he stays the longer the rebuild job will be for the next guy when he inherits 85 oompa loompa's. Not everyone in the scUM program is as dumb as Martin, I'm sure many see this and don't want to see RR be the gift that keeps on giving for near a decade.

I agree that its only good business to play a "get out of paying a massive contract for an even more massive mistake" card when you get lucky enough to be handed one.

He gets another curb stomping in The Game and they get an excuse to void the contract it will be very interesting.
 
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