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Rich Rodriguez (official thread of last laughs)

muffler dragon;1034445; said:
I just read this article on Bleacher Report: Link

I can't help but think this article is derived from this delusional thread on BGN. Angry 'eers + flight tracking software = insanity.

They're alleging we've been wooing RR for months and months now, and that among other things RR bailed to Ann Arbor on key nights (including that of the Pitt loss).

In reality: it's a simple case of "correlation does not equal causation."

In the land of black helicopters: it of course "makes perfect sense". Forget the fact that these planes are just charters that can be booked by anybody, and have been periodically flying the same routes dating back to August (if not longer).
 
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OCBucksFan;1034253; said:
Agreed, I think they will try a variation of the spread, using the fullback and running back as receivers, but I don't see the option being very possible. Mallet does have a cannon for an arm, I don't know how quick his release is, but depending they may just move with short-quick pass options up and down the field.



Actually, I could see it, he had his worst game in November and unless he has a great showing against Florida he might have hurt his draft stock.

Well I expect him to have a big game against Florida because their secondary is suspect. But both common sense and rumors have it that he and Mallett aren't exactly buddy-buddy, so there's a good chance he could declare.
 
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WolverineTX;1034471; said:
I can't help but think this article is derived from this delusional thread on BGN. Angry 'eers + flight tracking software = insanity.

They're alleging we've been wooing RR for months and months now, and that among other things RR bailed to Ann Arbor on key nights (including that of the Pitt loss).

In reality: it's a simple case of "correlation does not equal causation."

In the land of black helicopters: it of course "makes perfect sense". Forget the fact that these planes are just charters that can be booked by anybody, and have been periodically flying the same routes dating back to August (if not longer).

Wolv:

I know all of this. I just thought it was an interesting read. I laugh at this shizzit.
 
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cincibuck;1034003; said:
Is this a private fight, or can anyone jump in?
Just some thoughts: IF he doesn't get Terrell, what does Dick Wad do? Mallet can move better than most people think he can and he has a cannon. But make a spread QB out of him? I don't think so.

There is more than one variation of the spread. Will Rodriguez run the spread option with Mallett? Obviously not. He can however run a spread offense that goes 4-wide on most downs and try to throw the ball 40-50 times a game like he did before when he was at Glenville State.

Mallett played in a spread offense in high school where he ran plays almost exclusively out of the shotgun with 4 and 5 receiver sets.

If he does get Terrell and he does install the spread first year does Mallet walk? I think so. Kid has too much talent to ride the pine.

If Pryor did come, who is to say that he would beat Mallett out? Mallett will have gone through 2 spring practices, bowl practices, and will have had live game action and starts in the 2007 season. Those are pretty big advantages over a green true frosh.

I tend think Pryor needs to redshirt wherever he decides to go. He's extremely talented, but he's also very raw as a passer.

If Schilling can't keep DEs out of the back field, (Gholston damn near joined the Michigan huddle) how's he going to be any help in a spread? UM may need a whole new recruiting concept for their o line.

Actually, Schilling is probably best suited for a spread option offense, but not as a RT. His best position fit would be as a RG. Schilling is a much better run blocker than he is pass blocker, and he's a bit on the smaller side than Michigan is used to for OT's as he's 6'4" and in the mid 290's. In high school his team ran a triple option offense and they ran the ball basically ever play. He had little or no prior experience pass blocking before this season.

Schilling was only a freshman so you've got to cut him a little bit of a break. Secondly he was playing next to Alex Mitchell. It was already bad enough the kid was a freshman, but to play him next to the biggest waste of space to ever start in a Michigan uniform just made his job that much harder.

Schilling has also missed a lot of practice time due to injury and he's never been through a spring practice. He's had a shoulder injury, an illness that caused him to lose 20 pounds, and a knee injury that has set him back in his development.

It would be very unwise to write him off as a freshman. He's still one with a lot of potential, and I think he could flourish as a RG in Rich's system.

No one has said a thing about Ron English. How long will he stay in Michigan when he didn't even get a second look?

English is most likely gone. There is an old theory that says when a new head coach is coming in and he has to clean house, it's not a good idea to keep around a guy that wanted your job.

English was a great recruiter and motivator, but I'm not convinced he was a great or even good defensive co-ordinator. I think that English will actually be one of those guys that is a better head coach than co-ordinator. I say that because I think the man is an excellent recruiter, excellent motivator, and he's shown that he's pretty solid in evaluating the talents of other coaches. English had the biggest hand in the defensive hires of Steve Szabo, Vance Bedford, and Steve Strippling. Szabo worked wonders for the Michigan linebacker corps over the past two seasons and Vance Bedford made a huge turnaround in the defensive backfield in one season.

I for one think too much has been made out of the Oregon blowout. 1. Dennis Dixon can make anyone look silly. 2. I suspect the team was hyped up by the App State debacle and hyped up teams can fall apart quickly if things don't break their way. They got down by two scores early, they lost their QB, they couldn't run Hart the way they wanted to because of the score and then they just quit... First time I ever saw a Michigan team quit... and all of this took place before half time, where they might have been able to make some adjustments.

I DO think it proved that if you have a Dennis Dixon/Vince Young kind of QB you can make fools out of most teams. Likewise, if you can't recruit in depth for both sides of the ball, like WVU, Louisville, Oregon, Texas Tech then you better find a way to put a ton of points on the board. Dick Wad had to put a ton of points on the board to play against the big boys on his schedule. BUT if you loose your Dennis Dixon/Vince Young guy you're fucked because now you have to go back to the 'old' offense. Not an easy transition and you don't have the big hosses up front anymore (remember my comment about the kind of linemen you might recruit?) to make a drop back system work.

And just to keep the OSU side of things in mind, does this mean that Henton gets more snaps in practice? As the 04/05 seasons showed, it takes a while to put the spread into your play book and you get very fuzzy results when you try and run a system based on two very different QB styles.


I pretty much agree with you on all points there.
 
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muffler dragon;1034476; said:
Wolv:

I know all of this. I just thought it was an interesting read. I laugh at this shizzit.

Understood, and my post certainly wasn't a dig at you.

This does, though, diminish my opinion of The Bleacher Report for fueling the conspiratorial silliness. "Open source" apparently has its perils.
 
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Oswho?;1034478; said:
Schilling was only a freshman so you've got to cut him a little bit of a break. Secondly he was playing next to Alex Mitchell. It was already bad enough the kid was a freshman, but to play him next to the biggest waste of space to ever start in a Michigan uniform just made his job that much harder.

Just so you know, we have no problems with such comments about TSUN players, and may even encourage them. But such a description of a Buckeye would most certainly result in an infraction for bashing.

Is that fair? Maybe not, but that's just the way things are on Buckeye Planet.
 
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BB73;1034481; said:
Just so you know, we have no problems with such comments about TSUN players, and may even encourage them. But such a description of a Buckeye would most certainly result in an infraction for bashing.

Is that fair? Maybe not, but that's just the way things are on Buckeye Planet.

Michigan fans have said much harsher things about Alex Mitchell then that.

Mitchell deserves the bashing considering the effort and commitment he gave to this team the past two years.

If it was a Pat Massey situation where the kid was busting his ass week in and week out and trying to commit himself to football, but he just wasn't a good player, then I would have nothing but nice things to say about Alex Mitchell.

It's not like that at all though, and Mitchell deserves every bit of the bashing he gets. Rodriguez is going to run him off this team in the off-season. Mitchell will probably be one of the first to leave the team.
 
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Oswho?;1034478; said:
Mallett played in a spread offense in high school where he ran plays almost exclusively out of the shotgun with 4 and 5 receiver sets.

Strange.

That wasn't the case when I saw them play against Findlay in the Herbstreit challenge.

Mallet was usually under center when they ran 4 wide sets. When he WAS in the shotgun there were typically two backs and he would just give an underneath hand off.

On most snaps he was under center and not in the gun.

He was also a lumbering runner who could pick up a head of steam but had absolutely no lateral mobility.

Aren't you the same individual who claimed he threw for "500 yards" in that game?
 
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I can't help but think this article is derived from this delusional thread on BGN. Angry 'eers + flight tracking software = insanity.

They're alleging we've been wooing RR for months and months now, and that among other things RR bailed to Ann Arbor on key nights (including that of the Pitt loss).

In reality: it's a simple case of "correlation does not equal causation."

In the land of black helicopters: it of course "makes perfect sense". Forget the fact that these planes are just charters that can be booked by anybody, and have been periodically flying the same routes dating back to August (if not longer).
those people are frickin crazy
 
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WolverineTX;1034507; said:
Seriously. That forum has gone batshit insane. It'll probably get worse before it gets better.

Yeah, I actually made the mistake of trying to read it the night that Richy Rich came back to resign early, it was like 2000+ people online and 5 new threads a minute... "He's coming back, he's changed his mind!"

Seriously though, I think they hate Michigan more than anyone in history through, maybe they have a field hockey coach you guys could use? :rofl:
 
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Dick Wad had to put a ton of points on the board to play against the big boys on his schedule.

USF and Pitt? Does anyone here(besides the delusional scUM homer) really think Dick Rod had the less talented team in those games?

Thats been my whole point with his big game choking, he WAS the big boy of the BE. He was the bigest guy on a block full of asthmatic nerds and got his ass kicked by them when he tried to be the bully.
 
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Jaxbuck;1034517; said:
USF and Pitt? Does anyone here(besides the delusional scUM homer) really think Dick Rod had the less talented team in those games?

Thats been my whole point with his big game choking, he WAS the big boy of the BE. He was the bigest guy on a block full of asthmatic nerds and got his ass kicked by them when he tried to be the bully.
Well, when you say it like that, I'm hard pressed to argue otherwise. :wink2:

It's a good point, for sure. After the exodus of Miami, VT and BC to the ACC, WVU was the clear "big dog" of the BE. And... even as weak as it is, he never did destroy all comers.
 
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OCBucksFan;1034516; said:
Yeah, I actually made the mistake of trying to read it the night that Richy Rich came back to resign early, it was like 2000+ people online and 5 new threads a minute... "He's coming back, he's changed his mind!"

It was more of the same last night, including the freak-out over the "Mangino to WVU" hoax. Why oh why do I keep checking in on it? It's got that carnival mutant atmosphere going, which is fun... but it sucks the IQ points right out of my head.

Seriously though, I think they hate Michigan more than anyone in history through, maybe they have a field hockey coach you guys could use? :rofl:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSiDa044cNM]YouTube - Michigan Steals Coaches (From WVU)[/ame]
 
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